Ducati Monster Forum

Here is what I've got so far:

999 frame
999 mono subframe
999 tank/seat
S4rs swingarm, that is broken.  All the parts are good, but the arm is tweaked and probably not worth saving
1098 forks
1098 triples
999 stem

999 radial master cylinder


What I don't have:

headlight/1/4 fairing
Wheels
rotors
calipers
lines
and a motor....

I can built the exhaust easily, and fab up whatever else I might need.  Thoughts were to use the sssa from a s*r, and loose the suspension linkage, weld a mounting boss to the swingarm, and mod the frame for a direct setup.  Another idea is a older 900ss aluminum swingarm, but the sssa is "cooler".  Yet another idea is to find an arm off a 696, but I have yet to see one FS (and will probably be $$$ to put a complete setup together).

Thats what I need help on.  Looking for a 2v, simple, clean, and light.  Can't decide between a carb'd 900 with single short manifolds, or trying to piece together a 1000 or 1100 motor from ebay.  I'm a bit leery of that, because the little wiring bits that you may not get can nickle and dime ($50/$100) you to death in a hurry.  I don't need a zillion hp, just enough to have fun with in the mountains, and take to the track.

I admire a LOT of the work that takes place on this site, and welcome the thoughts and opinions of everyone!  Input requested!

I don't know I can offer any advice but my thoughts/preference would be a DSSA
I do love the SSSA but on a Cafe bike DSSA and low pipes just rock.

Other than that, I'll just wait and watch what kinda magic you come up with.

 [popcorn] [bacon]

I saw a 696 swingarm for sale recently....  but after half an hour of searching I'm buggered if I can find it again  [bang]... 

If you're going cafe you gotta go a carbed 900!

900 and DSS for sure [thumbsup]





 [popcorn]

While you're at it.... dual external rear shocks, a la Sport Classics or Triumphs.




///since I'm not the one doing the work...





Like these'uns:
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o280/sailwa66/ims%202010/STP60864.jpg)

This One (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-696-Double-Sided-Swingarm-Swing-Arm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cedacf626QQitemZ330405049894QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

696 arms are popping up on eBay constantly as I've seen 5 or 6 sell already and less than $150 in almost all of the cases.  I'm sure if you keep an eye out daily you could pick one up soon.

Alternatively, SC swingarm with the dual shocks?

Superbike frame, air-cooled Ducati motor, and S2R swingarm.  I think of Radical Ducati.  Will your bike be anything like these?   Will it be hard to match the 2V engine to the 999 frame? 

(http://radicalducati.futurnet.es/uploads/images/Rad/RAD02/cafe_racer/cafe_racer.jpg)
(http://www.radicalducati.com/uploads/images/Rad/RAD02/rad02imola/imola19.jpg)

I wouldn't try to piece together a DS1000 or 1100 from ebay when you could buy the whole engine.  DS1000's are often listed for $2K or more.  900's are generally half of that.  However, here is a DS1000 with broken motor mounts for $899 on eBay right now.  This may be something you could fix with your welding skills.  Add a set of FCR's from CA-Cycleworks (because it's not my money) and you will have yourself one of the baddest air cooled Ducatis of all time.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230436836239&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D8122856209577889338 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230436836239&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D8122856209577889338)

Been speaking with that guy about the 1000 motor....When I said piece together, mainly talking about getting the motor here, wiring there, ecu, from somewhere else, etc...

Only concern on that motor is the way it broke, and how would I be able to weld on the bottom side of the mount (can't).  Would it be strong enough if I did the sides...I'm unsure.
The mounts I've seen/welded were along the sides where I could get to 100% of it....not so with this one.


And yes, something like the radical ducatis....without the 2K tank and tail....I'll make my own tail and use the 999 tank/seat. 
I did find a built 750 motor that made 83 hp on the dyno.....  thats a bit more than a stock 900 w/carbs iirc.    Then again, a carb'd 1000 motor would be cool....  I'm unsure how I would control the timing, but I'm confident it could be done.

Ignitek...

I just mentioned that damaged 1000 motor because it is the only one I've seen for under $2K and knew you might have an idea if it was usable.  I saw one for less but it was missing parts like the clutch.  Chris at CA-Cycle has a DS1000 for sale for $2K. 

If you were to build an engine, I wonder if a 1000DS top end would fit on top of a 900 bottom end. 

I'm not sure, but I don't think that would be a bolt on.

(http://www.radicalducati.com/uploads/images/Rad/RAD02/rad02imola/imola19.jpg)
 Like this exhaust, want something  similar. Only options seem to be ExBox to get a different look. Very nice bike.

1000DS motor needing rebuild $600
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/mcy/1619039447.html (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/mcy/1619039447.html)

It's a good deal, until I hit that "will not ship" part.  DC is about 7 hours one way for me, so by the time it got back here I'd have at least 1k in it :(

Thanks though!  And if there is someone local that would look at/stick in a box/ship it........ [thumbsup]

edit----  guy sounds like he "might" be interested in the hassle of shipping it.  Does anyone know what the weight of a 2v motor is?

those two pics ........the yellow and blue bikes, are they the same bike repained. Look the same to me but I could be wrong. a lot of the compnentry looks the same.
Love it in yella...........BGB has an idea...........

Yeah, they are both from radical ducati in spain, called the Imola

edit: link
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.radicalducati.com/&ei=9tCJS7WIMo2AswO2_5SGAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dradical%2Bducati%26hl%3Den (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.radicalducati.com/&ei=9tCJS7WIMo2AswO2_5SGAw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dradical%2Bducati%26hl%3Den)

146 lb give or take

put it in one of those big plastic containers makes shipping easy.

I actually work for a transportation/logistics company.  If the seller is in the US, let me know and I can get it shipped for you hassle free.  PM me and let me know if you want this part.

The yellow and blue Radical Ducati bikes could be the same bike.  The engines look identical.  The exhausts are different.  Mirrors different and a few other little things.  Could just be similar builds built for different customers.

I just want to know how hard it is to match up the superbike frame to the 2V engine and swingarm.  Monsters have the swingarm bearings in the engine cases.  SuperBikes have the bearings in the swingarm.  So as long as you are using a compatible swingarm for the 2V engine this won't be a problem.  Can we assume the 2V engine bolts into the 999 Superbike frame?

I'm just outside of the D.C. area (about an hour west).  Let me know if you still need help.  I could go into D.C. to look at or ship the engine and then spend the night with some friends I've been meaning to catch up with.

hahaha

2V will bolt up to a SBK frame....they all use the same mounting bosses to my knowledge.

I'll be using a swingarm from a monster, so the swinger will bolt up as well. 


I'm waiting to hear back from the seller on him crating the thing up and having UPS pick it up.  If he won't do it, I would be VERY GRATEFUL if you could/would do something like that for me.  I've already found a set of 41mm FCR's, and located some big bore pistons for it. [thumbsup]

You mentioned needing a fairing and a headlight...

I have a couple of crashed Sharkskinz uppers from SS bikes. One of those judiciously trimmed and a projector type headlamp would be minimalistic but adequate for a track/weekend twisty bike.

Let me know.

inspirational pic (916 donor)
(http://www.duccutters.com/PaulStrickland/Originals/PaulStrickland1.jpg)

No problem.  Just let me know if you need the help.   

Any progress, getting that 1K? 
This thread and all the 2v sbk pictures I've been looking up have me wanting to do a similar project, found a trashed HM1100 :)

BTW, the 916/SS I posted above is now being parted out on ebay  :-[

Guy is getting back to me on shipping it  [thumbsup]  We worked out how to send payment, so as long as we can get it shipped somehow, I think it's mine :)

Think I've decided if I can get it, to try and find a oem jug and piston, and put it back together stock bore for the time being. 

Now I'm trying to decide what wheels to use, swingarm, etc.  I've got a 999 rear wheel (but it's bare) and a like new set of pirelli diablos that came off the 05 I just parted out.

Other thought....using a single front rotor like the bike pictured above, for "added" lightness.

Shame that the 916/ss is being parted out.  I've spoken with that guy several times on the .ms board.  I thought he bought it back???

The way it's worded it seems like the builder is selling it but I could be wrong.

here it is
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ducati-SS-SBK-hybrid-frame-engine-project-916-900SS_W0QQitemZ110501870380QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19ba6cbb2c (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ducati-SS-SBK-hybrid-frame-engine-project-916-900SS_W0QQitemZ110501870380QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19ba6cbb2c)

Major tentpole!!   [evil]

I too am starting a cafe build...we'll have to stay in touch! I'm a newbie to Ducs, but I build a show quality cb350 cafe, so I do know a bit about cafe stuff.

Cheers!

 [thumbsup] Love old CB's.  Post up a pic!  I've got a RD350 project that is waiting on me as well....

Still considering a 696 swing arm?  >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-696-Swing-Arm_W0QQitemZ260569190127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3cab224eef (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-696-Swing-Arm_W0QQitemZ260569190127QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3cab224eef)

bahahah... you still got it pompetta!

refresh this thread for me.

what would one need to do to adapt a 2V motor (900) to a superbike frame/swingarm? I've read "machine the cases", but what exactly does that entail, who does such a thing, and what's the cost?

I assume this means complete engine tear down, split the cases, and have each individually milled a certain depth.

Information would be quite helpful.

If you use a swingarm that fits the 2V (900) motor then you don't have to machine the cases.  The 900 2V will bolt right into the superbike frame.  The problem with this idea is you will have to construct and weld a custom shock mount to the superbike frame.  This is what has been done for the bikes from Radical Ducati on the first page of this thread. 

I know this isn't exactly what you asked, but it may be easier & cheaper to construct a shock mount than to mill the cases. 

the 900 I have out in the garage was "machined" to use sbk swingarms.  This was done by simply grinding down and facing the pivot area.

Lucky me, I ended up with a 04 multistrada motor, which has the same case width as the SBK's ;)