Anyone get the iPad yet?
I checked it out at the Apple store for a few minutes. Initial impression - [thumbsup]
my opinion is favorable but I haven't gotten my hands on it. Probably will not buy one because the cheats at Apple and ATT want me to buy another broadband when I already have one on my Iphone. Can you simply replace the SIM card for it to work? I've read they were coming out with new ones to prevent just that.
My wife hasn't put her 32gb one down since it arrived yesterday.
She got the wifi only version as we both decided the one with the Air Card capability is just not worth it.
Her primary reason for purchase was for book reading, but also for photography.
she is getting into doing family photo shoots, weddings, etc. So now in her her camera bag, she can carry the little I-Pad to show pictures instead of lugging her MacBook around.
I'd have to say.......it is pretty impressive.
Can you copy PDF documents to the iPad and use the book reader ? Let me know if you get a chance to try that.
Quote from: ab on April 04, 2010, 08:07:26 AM
Can you copy PDF documents to the iPad and use the book reader ? Let me know if you get a chance to try that.
No, but you can use the PDF Book Reader.
They have 100's of free books and you can get new release books for 6$ and thousands of book for $0.99.
Overall, this was bought for a book reader for my wife. She looked at the Kindle and Nook, but decided to spend a little bit more on the I-Pad.
what's the deal with Adobe flash player and Adobe in general with them anyway?
Got mine yesterday, and it has been passed around from me to my wife to our friends constantly ever since, excepting time for sleep. I'm an Apple fanboi, but it doesn't disappoint.
Initial impressions: lighter and smaller than I thought. Very fast and responsive. Plays 720p video smooth like butter. Browsing rocks. Keyboard is surprisingly good, coming from iPhone. Easy adaptation for me.
Killer add-on apps for me:
Air Sharing (use it as a network storage device, directly copy file to iPad from any browser, plus displays PDFs, Office docs, images, videos)
Air Video (stream videos from my home desktop machine to iPad anywhere, with automatic conversion from most formats)
Comic Zeal (load and view cbr and cbz comic archives, but also any PDFs)
Overall, it's [bacon]
Quote from: muskrat on April 04, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
what's the deal with Adobe flash player and Adobe in general with them anyway?
iPad doesn't play Flash, as you probably know. Opinions vary about the wisdom of this. There seem to be a few different camps:
1) Flash is the de facto standard for web animation. Whether it sucks or not, or should die or not, is immaterial. A tool that purports to be the best browser experience ever should support Flash.
2) Flash sucks, and its great that Apple is showing the way to HTML5. We don't and won't miss Flash.
3) Flash is great. Apple is insane.
As an experiment, I installed ClickToFlash in my browsers at work and home about a month ago. This intercepts and disables all Flash content. Turns out that I didn't miss it much. Occasionally I found myself clicking through to see the Flash underneath the ClickToFlash blocker, true. But only occasionally. Mostly I found the absence of annoying animated banner ads to be quite soothing, and loading times much improved. Overall win for me. So I guess that I'm in camp (2) above.
If you're not sure whether you'll survive without Flash, try ClickToFlash or something similar for a few days.
I read this article:
http://www.businessinsider.com/i-really-hate-what-apple-is-trying-to-do-with-the-ipad-2010-4 (http://www.businessinsider.com/i-really-hate-what-apple-is-trying-to-do-with-the-ipad-2010-4)
and I think I'm not going to bother getting one
I'll try that then.
Also explain to me what Air Video is? I have a Mac for my home PC and love it.
anyone know this that there's no contract for 3g service? If I'm going on vacation and such and don't want to pay hotels $10/day for WIFI I can sign-up for 3g service directly through the Ipad (horrible name BTW) and turn off immediately too. It also tracks the amount of usage so you don't go over. This little feature doesn't sound to bad i think.
Heard that they're now considering coming out with a slightly larger version soon. . .
Wait for it. . .
They're gonna call it the maxipad.
Since I fly alot, I was wondering if they made one with wings?
Can anyone with iPad try this
-- add to your iTunes Library a PDF document [File > add to library > select PDF doc (yes, you can do that )]
-- create a smart list ( Kind contains PDF )
-- then see if you can sync it to iPad and read it?
That is one thing that is critical for me to know before possibly getting it (well maybe 2nd generation). I have tons of PDF books (tech books) that I would like to be able to read on the iPad I suppose.
Quote from: muskrat on April 04, 2010, 03:07:43 PM
anyone know this that there's no contract for 3g service? If I'm going on vacation and such and don't want to pay hotels $10/day for WIFI I can sign-up for 3g service directly through the Ipad (horrible name BTW) and turn off immediately too. It also tracks the amount of usage so you don't go over. This little feature doesn't sound to bad i think.
Are you familiar with ATT's "3g service" on Air Card Devices?
I've been through 3 generations of ATT 3g devices (all USB Models) and they all make the beast with two backsing blew.
Note: been all over the country with it and in a few foreign countries. Worked better in foreign lands than domestically.
Just my $0.02 on their service
My only question, how do you protect the screen? I close my MacBook, the screen is protected. After going thru 4 screens on a slider phone in 2 years, I'm afraid of a gadget that is likely to get cracked while in the bag. If the solution is to put it in a big protective case; how is that better than just carrying my MacBook?
Reports said they sold 700k of them already.
not much of a surprise; I don't think they've laid an egg since before the original Imac came out.
if you like the iPad's functionality and physicality, but are a content creator of any kind, then you should wait for the WePad.
http://www.wepad.mobi/en (http://www.wepad.mobi/en)
Quote from: mraff on April 04, 2010, 05:01:22 PM
My only question, how do you protect the screen? I close my MacBook, the screen is protected. After going thru 4 screens on a slider phone in 2 years, I'm afraid of a gadget that is likely to get cracked while in the bag. If the solution is to put it in a big protective case; how is that better than just carrying my MacBook?
They sell cases to protect them.
the ATT service absolutely sucks as I have traveled all over this country as well. It's an option and with no contract i'd be more likely to spend a little extra dough but what unravels me the most has yet to be answered. Since I have Itunes on my Mac can I then toggle my Ipod or Iphone to the PAD with wings without it erasing my content on my device? It's my music and my computer so can it be done (I can't from my pc laptop to my mac right now)? If you say no then I'm burning all hopes of getting a PAD and going elsewhere. Tired of dictatorships and unlocking the Iphone was a pregnant dog.
Now Ducatiz......enlighten us please.
Apple is also making an iPad Nano...
Wait for it...
They're gonna call it the iPhone :)
the first was good, the second sucked. try again.
Ouch.
Does this make up for it?
Mad Tv - IPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs#)
Quote from: muskrat on April 04, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
the ATT service absolutely sucks as I have traveled all over this country as well. It's an option and with no contract i'd be more likely to spend a little extra dough but what unravels me the most has yet to be answered. Since I have Itunes on my Mac can I then toggle my Ipod or Iphone to the PAD with wings without it erasing my content on my device? It's my music and my computer so can it be done (I can't from my pc laptop to my mac right now)? If you say no then I'm burning all hopes of getting a PAD and going elsewhere. Tired of dictatorships and unlocking the Iphone was a pregnant dog.
huh? ???
Quote from: muskrat on April 04, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
<Can I sync my music to multiple iPads, iPods, and iPhones?>
Yes.
Quote from: muskrat on April 04, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
Explain to me what Air Video is.
http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html (http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html)
It's a tool for on-the-fly transcoding and streaming video, for example from your home Mac to your iPhone. That means that I can have a terabyte or more of movies and TV shows on my desktop computer at home, all of varying formats (mp4, m4v, mov, avi, wmv, asf, mpg, mpeg, mkv, 3gp, dmf, divx, flv) and resolutions (including up to 1080p), and watch any of those files anywhere on my iPhone.
Quote from: ab on April 04, 2010, 04:53:08 PM
Can anyone with iPad try this
-- add to your iTunes Library a PDF document [File > add to library > select PDF doc (yes, you can do that )]
-- create a smart list ( Kind contains PDF )
-- then see if you can sync it to iPad and read it?
That is one thing that is critical for me to know before possibly getting it (well maybe 2nd generation). I have tons of PDF books (tech books) that I would like to be able to read on the iPad I suppose.
This technique does not work; that playlist with a text-only PDF in it that I created as you described above simply gives the error "No Music".
But that's because the iPod application doesn't do text. It'll look inside a PDF and play audio therein, I'm guessing, but not text.
HOWEVER, there are plenty of ways to read PDFs on iPad. Here are 4 that I'm aware of and have actually used:
1) Buy GoodReader (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goodreader-tablet-edition/id363448914?mt=8) for $0.99. Cheap, easy. It's optimized for reading large PDF files, and is well reviewed, and includes a WiFi sync feature sorta like Air Sharing, that I found easy to use. Docs look great.
2) Buy Air Sharing (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/air-sharing-hd/id365541415?mt=8) for $9.99. It's got a less optimized PDF viewer, but still works pretty well, is a generic WiFi/http replacement for a USB thumb drive, and displays lots of other formats besides, including video.
3) Buy Comic Zeal (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/comic-zeal-comic-reader-4/id363990983?mt=8) for $7.99. It'll display PDFs, as well as CBZ and CBR comic archives.
4) Batch convert your PDFs to EPUB format using the free calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com/), and drop thsee EPUBs into the iPad's iBooks reader.
And, here are more options that I've not used, but that are available right now:
A) PDF Reader Pro Edition for iPad (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-reader-pro-edition-for/id364502063?mt=8), $3.99
B) PDF Word Excel File Viewer (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-word-excel-file-viewer/id331933924?mt=8), $0.99
C) iAnnotate PDF (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iannotate-pdf/id363998953?mt=8), $6.99
D) GoDocs (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/godocs-ipad-iphone-google/id348792440?mt=8), $3.99
E) Readdle Docs for iPad (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/readdledocs-for-ipad/id364901807?mt=8), $4.99
I thought the whole Flash on Mac products came around from Steve jobs shitfight with Adobe over licensing fees or something like that.
Also the limited resources available on an iPhone or iPad.
I remember something on Attack of the Show about the whole Flash not on Apple mess.
QuoteiPad anyone?
Nahh, not that time of the month.
I would of been all over it, if it had ran OS X. I really wanted one until the unveiling when they showed a giant iphone.
I'll be holding on to my money (but not holding my breath), until a fully functional tablet comes.
Quote from: trenner on April 04, 2010, 09:55:48 PM
This technique does not work; that playlist with a text-only PDF in it that I created as you described above simply gives the error "No Music".
But that's because the iPod application doesn't do text. It'll look inside a PDF and play audio therein, I'm guessing, but not text.
HOWEVER, there are plenty of ways to read PDFs on iPad. Here are 4 that I'm aware of and have actually used:
1) Buy GoodReader (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/goodreader-tablet-edition/id363448914?mt=8) for $0.99. Cheap, easy. It's optimized for reading large PDF files, and is well reviewed, and includes a WiFi sync feature sorta like Air Sharing, that I found easy to use. Docs look great.
2) Buy Air Sharing (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/air-sharing-hd/id365541415?mt=8) for $9.99. It's got a less optimized PDF viewer, but still works pretty well, is a generic WiFi/http replacement for a USB thumb drive, and displays lots of other formats besides, including video.
3) Buy Comic Zeal (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/comic-zeal-comic-reader-4/id363990983?mt=8) for $7.99. It'll display PDFs, as well as CBZ and CBR comic archives.
4) Batch convert your PDFs to EPUB format using the free calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com/), and drop thsee EPUBs into the iPad's iBooks reader.
And, here are more options that I've not used, but that are available right now:
A) PDF Reader Pro Edition for iPad (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-reader-pro-edition-for/id364502063?mt=8), $3.99
B) PDF Word Excel File Viewer (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-word-excel-file-viewer/id331933924?mt=8), $0.99
C) iAnnotate PDF (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iannotate-pdf/id363998953?mt=8), $6.99
D) GoDocs (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/godocs-ipad-iphone-google/id348792440?mt=8), $3.99
E) Readdle Docs for iPad (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/readdledocs-for-ipad/id364901807?mt=8), $4.99
Thanks Trenner for the detailed answer. It's good to know there are other options to look into.
Quote from: muskrat on April 04, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
Now Ducatiz......enlighten us please.
The WePad is a Droid-powered one-up of the iPad.
Things the iPad lacks:
-USB ports
-IEEE ports
-built in Camera (but they will sell you an external one)
-Memory card slots
Other "features":
-Closed development system -- how do you transfer content to the device? Download only or sync. You have a USB data key? forget it.
-No choice of wireless provider, they are tying it directly to the 3g providers.
-No multitasking except iwth specific Apple-provided apps. (don't believe me, check it out yourself)
WePad:
-Multitasking of all apps.
-Has a GSM SIM slot, use any GSM provider.
-USB (2)
-SD slots
-larger display (10.5 vs 9.7")
Obviously you have limitations, the Droid apps are smaller in number than the iPad/iPhone apps, but Droid is becoming more and more popular. Memory/storage options are similar except the Droid has an SD slot that you can toss in a card for system or storage (partition it on the fly)..
Quote from: mraff on April 04, 2010, 05:13:45 PM
not much of a surprise; I don't think they've laid an egg since before the original Imac came out.
really?
i dont think apple tv has been a huge success, has it?
Quote from: herm (not herb) on April 05, 2010, 03:35:28 AM
really?
i dont think apple tv has been a huge success, has it?
Indeed, it has been largely unsuccessful. I've got one, and i find it deeply annoying that it won't play a broad variety of video formats. To address that, I've resorted to hacking it to play video via XBMC and Boxee. This solves the format issue, but introduces stability problems. I'm always having to reboot the thing to get it to play properly. As an interface to the iTunes movie and TV store, it's fine, but as a tool for the power-user it bites.
This is an interesting observation more broadly, valid also for the iPhone and iPad. The target customer for these devices is not the power-user, not the tech elite who are comfortable with terms like DHCP and DNS, or who can tell you the relative merits of USB 3.0 versus IEEE 1394 S3200, or who know their way around a compiler, or who can build their own gaming rig.
The things that irritate these digerati about iPhone and iPad and Apple TV are the very things that make those products so appealing to the actual target customer. Apple believes that user experience, simplicity and elegance, trumps features and reconfigurability and raw power. So these products are intentionally aimed at doing certain things extremely well, at the cost of completely omitting other features. Its the old tradeoff of power versus ease of use.
For those outside the technological priesthood, Apple's choice of where this balance should lie translates into wild and grateful acceptance. No one else can make so much tech so easy for them to use.
For those in the priesthood, those willing and able to deal with more complexity to gain more flexibility and power, Apple's choice is less well received. What Grandma calls perfect, a .NET programmer calls annoyingly restrictive.
Quote from: trenner on April 05, 2010, 06:38:47 AM
For those in the priesthood, those willing and able to deal with more complexity to gain more flexibility and power, Apple's choice is less well received. What Grandma calls perfect, a .NET programmer calls annoyingly restrictive.
Is that what nerds are referring to themselves as now? :)
Quote from: trenner on April 05, 2010, 06:38:47 AM
What Grandma calls perfect, a .NET programmer calls annoyingly restrictive.
Although, my Grandma still wants it to run an OS and have a camera. Seems like its a conduit to run preboxed products. Almost like a cartrige based gaming console. "Apps" are the plug in... and nothing else matters. Great for some... not so much for others.
^ agreed - good for some not for others.
It's essentially a giant smart phone.
I pad disection and explanation:
http://www.tested.com/ipad-autopsy-video-we-take-apart-an-ipad/47-24/ (http://www.tested.com/ipad-autopsy-video-we-take-apart-an-ipad/47-24/)
No no no.
http://jalopnik.com/5509766/worlds-first-ipad-in-car (http://jalopnik.com/5509766/worlds-first-ipad-in-car)
Quote from: hbliam on April 05, 2010, 07:57:43 AM
Is that ("those in the technological priesthood") what nerds are referring to themselves as now? :)
;D
Wish I had coined the term, but it dates back at least to Alvin Weinberg's (former head of Oak Ridge National Laboratory) writings in Science magazine about nuclear waste in 1972.
http://tinyurl.com/ykwrqlo (http://tinyurl.com/ykwrqlo)
I first learned the term in Neal Stephenson's 1992 book Snow Crash.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash)
It's not necessarily describing a good thing.
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ed064p1 (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ed064p1)
http://skepticalphoenix.blogspot.com/2010/01/ipad-crazy-like-fox.html (http://skepticalphoenix.blogspot.com/2010/01/ipad-crazy-like-fox.html)
Quote from: trenner on April 04, 2010, 09:34:01 PM
http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html (http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html)
It's a tool for on-the-fly transcoding and streaming video, for example from your home Mac to your iPhone. That means that I can have a terabyte or more of movies and TV shows on my desktop computer at home, all of varying formats (mp4, m4v, mov, avi, wmv, asf, mpg, mpeg, mkv, 3gp, dmf, divx, flv) and resolutions (including up to 1080p), and watch any of those files anywhere on my iPhone.
no kidding? I downloaded the tool but now you need to coach me to use my Iphone to hack my computer and watch those files.
I went by the store and came away with less than favorable impressions. No USB, can't use as hard drive unless unlocked, only content from Itunes, 3G through ATT which sucks the life out of my Iphone - can only imagine the Ipad, expensive as hell for a 64g version and a host of other little items. Frankly for my money the Ibook is TONS better and only $100 or so dollars off. This to me is an over inflated Ipod, which I expected, but at an unreasonable cost and locked to ATT whose 3g network simply sucks.
I'm fine with my Imac but the rest of their toys will need to be for others....at least until the price and features are reasonable.
Quote from: muskrat on April 05, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
I went by the store and came away with less than favorable impressions. No USB, can't use as hard drive unless unlocked, only content from Itunes, 3G through ATT which sucks the life out of my Iphone - can only imagine the Ipad, expensive as hell for a 64g version and a host of other little items. Frankly for my money the Ibook is TONS better and only $100 or so dollars off. This to me is an over inflated Ipod, which I expected, but at an unreasonable cost and locked to ATT whose 3g network simply sucks.
I'm fine with my Imac but the rest of their toys will need to be for others....at least until the price and features are reasonable.
Check out the WePad, your criticisms are all spot-on for why the WePad exists!
saw one at best buy today (while researching a replacement for my point and shoot)
meh... :P
I picked one up Saturday afternoon. I have not touched my laptop since.
I would be surprised going forward if my laptop sees 10% usage.
No its not some miracle device but for what I do with my laptop is a great replacement.
Its a great step in the right direction. I think the future is going to be tablets and cloud computing [bow_down] [bacon]
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 05, 2010, 04:50:16 PM
Its a great step in the right direction. I think the future is going to be tablets and cloud computing [bow_down] [bacon]
I'll put my data in a cloud when hell freezes over
http://gigaom.com/2009/10/10/when-cloud-fails-t-mobile-microsoft-lose-sidekick-customer-data/ (http://gigaom.com/2009/10/10/when-cloud-fails-t-mobile-microsoft-lose-sidekick-customer-data/)
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/10/t-mobile-microsoftdanger-data-loss-is-bad-for-the-cloud.ars (http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2009/10/t-mobile-microsoftdanger-data-loss-is-bad-for-the-cloud.ars)
Not only is it a bad idea, it is a huge huge huge privacy assmake the beast with two backs. Put your data in a cloud and just let whoever pad thru it. No, I'll do fine with it on a USB key or similar. I don't lose shit and I have no problem backing things up.
I archive all my emails, I have email files going back to 1985 when I was using ELM and later PINE... DOn't know why I keep them, who needs a make the beast with two backsin' cloud? My grandma.
I just bought a decent 13" Asus ul30vt-a1 laptop for my portable needs - 10hours of battery life and a dual core proc [thumbsup].
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GmPktBf8jlk/S6wjK8Bkq3I/AAAAAAAAASE/ET9njg_3gg4/asus%20ul30vt%20a1-4.jpg)
Apple frustrates me enough with their content control model (1984) I don't think I would buy a ipad.
mitt
Quote from: muskrat on April 05, 2010, 03:47:38 PM
I went by the store and came away with less than favorable impressions. No USB, can't use as hard drive unless unlocked, only content from Itunes, 3G through ATT which sucks the life out of my Iphone - can only imagine the Ipad, expensive as hell for a 64g version and a host of other little items. Frankly for my money the Ibook is TONS better and only $100 or so dollars off. This to me is an over inflated Ipod, which I expected, but at an unreasonable cost and locked to ATT whose 3g network simply sucks.
I'm fine with my Imac but the rest of their toys will need to be for others....at least until the price and features are reasonable.
you can sync your own content to the 'pad using itunes as a conduit (just like the ipod/iphone)
there
is going to be a sd/cf card reader for the dock connector. not sure if you'll be able to use it as general storage, though.
regarding the cost, i'll agree that it's on the high side, but they've got a decent amount of r&d to recoup. frankly, until somebody else throws down a tablet that matches the apple user experience and battery life, apple has a bullseye on their back.
functionally, the macbook
is a more capable device. it's also physically larger, weighs >3x more than the ipad, and has less battery life.
Quote from: ducatiz on April 05, 2010, 05:05:33 PM
I'll put my data in a cloud when hell freezes over
Not only is it a bad idea, it is a huge huge huge privacy assmake the beast with two backs. Put your data in a cloud and just let whoever pad thru it. No, I'll do fine with it on a USB key or similar. I don't lose shit and I have no problem backing things up.
I archive all my emails, I have email files going back to 1985 when I was using ELM and later PINE... DOn't know why I keep them, who needs a make the beast with two backsin' cloud? My grandma.
i'd say you're not the typical user.
the only "cloud" data i have is email, and i don't email sensitive information.
fwiw, i have all my emails archived up until i switches to gmail in 2004.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 05, 2010, 04:50:16 PM
I would be surprised going forward if my laptop sees 10% usage.
i played with one a the store today. it does 90% of what i need, 90% of the time i'm away from the house.
read: i
could justify not carrying my macbook pro with me everywhere i go.
Quote from: mitt on April 05, 2010, 05:23:49 PM
Apple frustrates me enough with their content control model (1984) I don't think I would buy a ipad.
are you referring to music/movies/media or the app store?
Quote from: derby on April 05, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
are you referring to music/movies/media or the app store?
I only use itunes and istore music - it just pisses me off trying to get an account to work on several computers & several logins, & not being locked down to who is logged in, etc.
For example, I see they have homeshare now & I thought that would work well on my new laptop, so I set it up - it still "authorized" the new laptop, so now my wifes acct is down to 1 left :P - I thought it was specifically designed to not use an authorization.
Then, I started using it, but her account had to be logged in and itunes open on the host computer, and the laptop :-\ That is stupid, so since it authorized the new laptop, I just imported all her songs onto it too and it can run independent. But, of course, no other account on the computer can use my wifes music, even though it is on the hard drive. And, I have to keep the libraries sync'd.
Maybe I just don't use it enough to know how to get around these problems? I wish the "cloud" model would be for music, then I could access my itune library on any hardware with wifi.
mitt
You can only use one computer for Itunes, yet I have multiple ones I'd like to use Itunes on, and frankly I'm sick of being wedlock to them half the time. Seriously, didn't Microsoft catch the wrath for bundled content? I'm not to keen on only one source for anything other than the wifey. I purchased the unit, it's mine and not for someone else to dictate what is "approved" or not. If chose to download something risky then it's my fault, I take full responsibility. My Ipod is for plane rides which I'm on weekly almost and I bought my Iphone to surf the web. I want options and it's my device so IMO opinion they can pound sand. This is why I have my Iphone unlocked - or will so tomorrow 8)
I believe with Itunes you can authorize up to 5 computers.
I know I have 3 authorized right now.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 05, 2010, 07:29:51 PM
I believe with Itunes you can authorize up to 5 computers.
I know I have 3 authorized right now.
yes.
Quote from: mitt on April 05, 2010, 05:51:43 PM
I only use itunes and istore music - it just pisses me off trying to get an account to work on several computers & several logins, & not being locked down to who is logged in, etc.
For example, I see they have homeshare now & I thought that would work well on my new laptop, so I set it up - it still "authorized" the new laptop, so now my wifes acct is down to 1 left :P - I thought it was specifically designed to not use an authorization.
Then, I started using it, but her account had to be logged in and itunes open on the host computer, and the laptop :-\ That is stupid, so since it authorized the new laptop, I just imported all her songs onto it too and it can run independent. But, of course, no other account on the computer can use my wifes music, even though it is on the hard drive. And, I have to keep the libraries sync'd.
Maybe I just don't use it enough to know how to get around these problems?
i don't remember having to authorize when i setup homesharing. i'll take a look at it again tomorrow.
Quote from: mitt on April 05, 2010, 05:51:43 PM
I wish the "cloud" model would be for music, then I could access my itune library on any hardware with wifi.
there are a few "roll your own" internet jukeboxes out there. i used to recommend simplifymedia, but they recently pulled their software from their downloads section (fueling speculation that apple would introduce streaming from anywhere).
so then how do you transfer your files from Itunes to another computer? I tried it and plugged in my Iphoe and it told me that all files on my Ipod would be replaced. [bang] [bang]
All I want is the ability to have them on my computers with my devices so when I travel I can download and fart around as I see fit.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 05, 2010, 07:29:51 PM
I believe with Itunes you can authorize up to 5 computers.
I know I have 3 authorized right now.
Woweee. You can
authorize other computers (well, five of them) to get to stuff you own. That is a step in the right direction.
So, this miracle device does not allow any drag/drop from, say a USB drive, if the thing had a native USB port, forces you to sync with another computer, despite the fact that the thing is, itself a real computer, albeit running a phone OS, where you can't load whichever applications you want, that only run one at a time (except if Apple writes them) but hey, check out all these cool apps you already like from the app store that you have to buy again for more money! And if you don't like that, hey cloud computing. Cloud! Because not only is internet access ubiquitous, we all want to pay another $30 a month for AT&T's trouble-free service to get to content we can't manipulate offline.
Reading the caveats (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/193267/updated_faq_what_you_need_to_know_about_the_ipad.html) in the iPad FAQ is like reading a legal document that is a binding contract to Mac fanboydom. " The undersigned accepts that this device is extremely cool, and accepts the following conditions. 1. This device is not really a computer despite being a computer 2. This device cannot do computer things." Ad bullshitum... "3456. Please sync with an actual computer, print and sign" (The iPad thing has no *printing* capability.)
I am curious. Those people who are using it as a desktop or laptop replacement, what have you used it for, so far? Browsing, video playback? How about composing a document? How long did that take? I have to conclude that people are buying it first, rationalizing, and figuring out what it can be used for second.
I am not looking to take anything away from anyone who has or likes this. But fundamentally, taking a potentially cool device, crippling it and locking it down to control content delivery is ridiculous. Forcing users to sync a computer with another computer to make the first computer usable, using the convoluted rules of iTunes, which sucks, makes it suck more. The more I learn about the iPad, the less I like it.
By the way, there probably would be a competitor to the iPad had it not been for some respectively greedy and egotistical developers. Search for joojoo and crunch pad if you want to read that sad tale.
I'm glad you posted, I was to lazy to write all that up. [clap]
i um, know this guy who stripped all the DRM from his entire itunes library. he could have paid for a program to do it for him, but being kind of cheap, he did it the hard way.
now all of my, i mean his music can be played on any device, transfered to any computer, used without iTunes, etc...got it all backed up on cd's too.
Quote from: herm (not herb) on April 06, 2010, 09:54:34 AM
i um, know this guy who stripped all the DRM from his entire itunes library. he could have paid for a program to do it for him, but being kind of cheap, he did it the hard way.
now all of my, i mean his music can be played on any device, transfered to any computer, used without iTunes, etc...got it all backed up on cd's too.
proceed with PM to me with instructions PLEASE. I'm very interested.
iPad will not replace a laptop... Yet :)
But I am really impressed by it's first attempt so far. I mean it can only get better from this point on right???
It does look like a miracle device compared to the poopoo oh I mean joojoo.
The review on end gadget was laughable. $499, Browser only, 2.5 battery life, software compared to barely being alpha, oh it has flash that is a battery hog and choppy as hell.
I am curious about the HP slate though. Hopefully they do a better job on that.
The fact is most people who dislike apple with continue to dislike apple and rather pickup a joojoo than admit apple makes some of the best user experience products out there. I am by no means a apple fanboy. I hate how they lock down there memory, battery etc but I have to admit I still have not picked up my laptop since I bought this device.
Btw they make a app for almost everything, you want to edit some heavy docs they have a app for that. If you want to remote admin your PC they have a app for it, if you want to make a artist tablet out of your iPad they make app for it :) 1000 iPad apps at launch and 150k iPhone compatible apps right now.
Sent from a iPad :)
Quote from: herm (not herb) on April 06, 2010, 09:54:34 AM
i um, know this guy who stripped all the DRM from his entire itunes library. he could have paid for a program to do it for him, but being kind of cheap, he did it the hard way.
now all of my, i mean his music can be played on any device, transfered to any computer, used without iTunes, etc...got it all backed up on cd's too.
afaik, none of the ITMS music files have drm anymore. they quit that when they went 256aac.
Quote from: muskrat on April 06, 2010, 10:15:43 AM
proceed with PM to me with instructions PLEASE. I'm very interested.
from reading his post, i'm pretty sure it was just burned to cd and re-ripped to mp3.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 06, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Btw they make a app for almost everything, you want to edit some heavy docs they have a app for that. If you want to remote admin your PC they have a app for it, if you want to make a artist tablet out of your iPad they make app for it :) 1000 iPad apps at launch and 150k iPhone compatible apps right now.
I would need an app to sort apps.
[laugh]
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 06, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
iPad will not replace a laptop... Yet :)
Sure it can. If most of what you do on your laptop is browse the web or watch videos. In other words, compute passively. I am not saying that is a bad thing, I just want to make the point clear.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 06, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
It does look like a miracle device compared to the poopoo oh I mean joojoo.
See: "sad tale"
This device was conceived to be a touchscreen netbook, priced around $200.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 06, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
The fact is most people who dislike apple with continue to dislike apple and rather pickup a joojoo than admit apple makes some of the best user experience products out there. I am by no means a apple fanboy. I hate how they lock down there memory, battery etc but I have to admit I still have not picked up my laptop since I bought this device.
The fact is that most people that like the iPad will continue to like the iPad rather than admit the device attempts to do a lot of things, but doesn't really do a even a few key things all that well. Browsing? nope. It uses the iPhone browser. Video playback? Any format except flash. The book store uses DRM. No multiprotocol chat clients. The thing doesn't even have a functional alarm. All cognitive iPad dissonance will be answered with things like:
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 06, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Btw they make a app for almost everything, you want to edit some heavy docs they have a app for that. If you want to remote admin your PC they have a app for it, if you want to make a artist tablet out of your iPad they make app for it :) 1000 iPad apps at launch and 150k iPhone compatible apps right now.
.. yes, at $4.99 or more apiece. You can buy at least $5000 dollars worth of consumer-level software for your iPad. The abundance of software does not compensate for the need to buy much less the cost of the software.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on April 06, 2010, 10:33:53 AM
Sent from a iPad :)
Look, it is hard to argue with "It works for me." Go forth and compute in good health [thumbsup] Also, still curious about how long long it is taking to type things ;)
It is unfortunately easy to argue with "it will replace your laptop/desktop/netbook/iphone/other" On the user level that depends on how much non-browser or non-video time time you spend, but functionally, it will not. Overall, it seems like Apple aimed a shotgun at a target called "tablet PC" and pulled the trigger. Where were you aiming Apple? Where you see the little holes.
Assuming that the lack of focus and functionality has something to do with Apple's hubris, I find myself in the odd position of hoping Apple fails with this. (I say this as an OSX fan and Mac owner of several years.) :-\
Really?
Doesn't even do a few things all that well?
I must be using some special Ipad no one else has :)
Look... I am a PC person. I never owned a MAC before so I don't worship apple by any means but I am really enjoying this device.
Btw many apps are free and with in just a few days I can type almost as fast if not faster on this iPad than a keyboard but maybe because I have the hands the size of a Childs :)
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
the device attempts to do a lot of things, but doesn't really do a even a few key things all that well.
Really.
You'll have to re-read my posts if you think I am making a case for Mac worship.
And I truly do hope you continue to enjoy it...
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
The fact is that most people that like the iPad will continue to like the iPad rather than admit the device attempts to do a lot of things, but doesn't really do a even a few key things all that well. Browsing? nope. It uses the iPhone browser.
is there a problem w/ the iphone browser?
possible alternatives on the way: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/opera-mini-browser-coming-to-an-iphone-near-you/ (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/opera-mini-browser-coming-to-an-iphone-near-you/)
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Video playback? Any format except flash.
i can live with that.
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
The book store uses DRM.
*gasp* say it ain't so!! what's the problem? if you want portability, buy a paper book.
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
No multiprotocol chat clients.
are you sure about that? i'm prettys ure there are some for iphone (beejiveim, for one)
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
The thing doesn't even have a functional alarm.
that's odd...
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
All cognitive iPad dissonance will be answered with things like:
.. yes, at $4.99 or more apiece. You can buy at least $5000 dollars worth of consumer-level software for your iPad. The abundance of software does not compensate for the need to buy much less the cost of the software.
i don't get your point... should all software be free?
Quote from: il d00d on April 06, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
Look, it is hard to argue with "It works for me." Go forth and compute in good health [thumbsup] Also, still curious about how long long it is taking to type things ;)
It is unfortunately easy to argue with "it will replace your laptop/desktop/netbook/iphone/other" On the user level that depends on how much non-browser or non-video time time you spend, but functionally, it will not. Overall, it seems like Apple aimed a shotgun at a target called "tablet PC" and pulled the trigger. Where were you aiming Apple? Where you see the little holes.
Assuming that the lack of focus and functionality has something to do with Apple's hubris, I find myself in the odd position of hoping Apple fails with this. (I say this as an OSX fan and Mac owner of several years.) :-\
ok... so what did you want the ipad to be... an intel proc, full osx, real video card... uh, a macbook without the keyboard, right? at the expensive of increased weight or reduced battery life, right?
alternative for a killer price. I can forgo the touch screen pleasure [beer]
http://gizmodo.com/5389166/how-to-hackintosh-a-dell-mini-10v-into-the-ultimate-snow-leopard-netbook (http://gizmodo.com/5389166/how-to-hackintosh-a-dell-mini-10v-into-the-ultimate-snow-leopard-netbook)
The iPhone browser is displaying the mobile version of many sites for iPad users. It is not tabbed, does not allow you to back up to a specific place in your browser history, et cetera. In short is is not a fully-fledged PC browser. It is a great phone browser, but not a great PC browser.
Because there are alternatives does not mean that DRM does not fundamentally suck.
The good answer to "this device doesn't have the capability and probably should" is not "someone may sell you an overpriced fix for that".
Finally, what I wanted was a touchscreen netbook running a scaled version of OSX*. There are linux distros for netbooks by the plenty. It doesn't seem like a mountain too high.
There are few problems with this device that can't be fixed with a real OS. I hope you enjoy your iPad too :)
* edit: with the same hardware
Am I the only one who thinks there'll be a new book written about Ipad jokes?
all things considered... if my wife were to buy me one... say, as a gift... I would play with it... surf this site on it... perhaps some others... all while on the couch watching TV... I wouldn't replace my laptop with it... but I wouldn't return it for a refund either. It is what it is.
I was really hoping someone would dress up as Moses on "Ipad day," buy two and then walk out of the Apple store holding them over his head.
Alas, I don't think anyone actually did this. A missed opportunity for Mr. Incredible, for sure.
on another note, am I the only person left in the world that can type like a mofo on a normal keyboard at a speed that a touch screen will never ever match? I finally hacked my iphone to use a bluetooth keyboard and feel like I have IPad 2.0
nope, I can type blazing fast on a normal keyboard to [thumbsup]
now, did you unlock from 3.13 on the phone? I can't seem to do this. [bang]
Quote from: DesmoLu on April 06, 2010, 06:38:28 PM
I was really hoping someone would dress up as Moses on "Ipad day," buy two and then walk out of the Apple store holding them over his head.
Alas, I don't think anyone actually did this. A missed opportunity for Mr. Incredible, for sure.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
http://www.wonderhowto.com/wonderment/listen-up-before-buy-ipad-20-biggest-complaints-0114815/ (http://www.wonderhowto.com/wonderment/listen-up-before-buy-ipad-20-biggest-complaints-0114815/)
I see a few legitimate complaints on that list but this was clearly written by someone who does not like the Ipad or maybe any apple product. Again I am a PC person and not some apple fanboy =)
I was going to comment on each bullet item but I will simply point out a few of the complaint which is laughable.
1. Upscaling makes old iPhone/iPod Touch apps ugly.
*This is like saying my PS2 games don't look as sharp on my PS3. You don't have to upscale them and many look nice actually for x2 the size they where originally designed for. It's a bonus you can use them IMO.
7. YouTube looks ugly on the big screen.
*Well of course it does. How is that the fault of the device? How about you view the HD movie instead which look fantastic on the Ipad.
10. The headphone jack up top is awkward.
*You know the Ipad screen rotates in any direction you want right?
11. The Home button gets in the way while holding the IPad horizontally.
*Again not true. I never ever Accidently hit the button while holding it.
14. The iBookstore only works with the IPad.
*What? You want to read a full novel on a Iphone... You're crazy man =)
Good writeup
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2010/04/08/apple-s-modus-operandi.aspx (http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/techtonicshifts/archive/2010/04/08/apple-s-modus-operandi.aspx)
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In other news: Apple still has no intention to support Adobe Flash. No explanation why. Perhaps none is needed, because think about it: when Apple blocks Flash-based sites like Hulu, users get “incentivized†(as Tony Soprano might say) to buy content instead from Apple's iTunes store. You got a problem with that?
Another reason for Apple to hate Flash is that Flash lets developers build games and other apps that run in a browser. Therefore those developers could sidestep the App Store, which would deprive Apple of the chance to take 30 percent of the money people spend buying the app itself and then 40 percent of any advertising revenue that gets generated when people are using the app.
you don't need flash to do broswer games, html5 can do it just fine:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/01/google-html5-quake/ (http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/01/google-html5-quake/)
GWT Quake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhMN0wlITLk&feature=player_embedded#)
Quote from: derby on April 08, 2010, 06:19:11 PM
you don't need flash to do broswer games, html5 can do it just fine:
i am sure you will correct me if i am wrong, but there simply are not that many html5 sites/programmers around. i haven't even heard of it until this thread.
does Newgrounds.com use HTML5?
someone please PM me the "idiot's guide" to unlock my Iphone 3Gs version 3.13. That way I can use my Iphone as a WIFI and kick the extra $130 to the curb. Wife is dead set she wants to read books on this toy and being in anniversary mode I can't deny the woman any longer. She says nothing about my accessorizing bikes left and right so it's only fair.
Thanks
well, wife wanted one for anniversary so I got one (customer return at Best Buy) for 10% less than retail. Didn't hurt as badly but she's happy so that's all that matters.
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41296440 (http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=41296440)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The more I use my ultra portable laptop, the more I wish I had gone with a ipad. I think it would have done 99% of what I needed, and been more friendly at the same time. The lack of instant on and off with a laptop, that is probably the most frustrating thing about carrying this around and why an Ipad would be great (I am assuming they have a startup time like an ipod (5 seconds)? And, having a fan, even though it is super small and hard to hear, still gets old.
mitt
swap to a solid state drive instead of a regular HDD, turn off most of the services and autorun stuff and it cuts the start up time immensely.
cut down the number of device drivers to the same devices that are on the Ipad and it should cut down further.
Quote from: ducatiz on April 12, 2010, 03:39:55 PM
swap to a solid state drive instead of a regular HDD, turn off most of the services and autorun stuff and it cuts the start up time immensely.
cut down the number of device drivers to the same devices that are on the Ipad and it should cut down further.
It is pretty fast now, less than 20 seconds = not really my complaint. More like when I am done for a while, I just never know what to do with it, sleep, hibernate, shut down, nothing. It is like I have to look into the crystal ball and estimate when I will use it next.
If I just had a on and off button, no pondering required. Sometimes choice is bad for a pragmatist.
mitt
Question: why can't I see YouTube videos embedded on forums on my itouch or iPhone?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20100419/sc_livescience/universitiesbanipads (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20100419/sc_livescience/universitiesbanipads)
DHCP issues.... Isreal banned the iPad in the country... impounding it if you come into the country... lol
Quote from: ryandalling on April 20, 2010, 02:09:48 AM
Isreal banned the iPad in the country... impounding it if you come into the country... lol
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1165181.html (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1165181.html)
I went the morning of the 3rd and picked up 3. I sold 2 on ebay and my girl bought a 32gb because she knew I wouldnt buy it myself. a couple hours later we were on a cross country flight and watched two movies and it still had 80% battery left. I fly a lot so it works for my needs, but she rarely lets it out of her clutches after she found out she actually liked it ;D I'll probabl buy a second one but wait until the 2nd gen when they add a front facing camera and some more connectivity. If it suits your needs its a good product.
And Calibre is awesome! I converted all my pdf books and dumped them into itunes, they appeared on my Ipad bookstore moments later - i was happy about it. and now my girl can read "Love in the time of Cholera" in bed without having to worry about papercuts [thumbsup]
I am not trying to pile on here, but kind of a bummer. No output to TV, projector, etc in many (or most cases) via VGA adapter
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/apple-ipad-dock-connector-to-vga-adapter-not-accomplishing-the-s/ (http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/apple-ipad-dock-connector-to-vga-adapter-not-accomplishing-the-s/)
http://store.apple.com/us/reviews/MC552ZM/A?mco=MTc1MDc0NTk (http://store.apple.com/us/reviews/MC552ZM/A?mco=MTc1MDc0NTk)
ok so wife and I are going to the wilderness this Saturday for a week. I downloaded some stuff and now can't find the tv shows. I'm an idiot so treat me with kid gloves and help me find these things.......please.
This is an interesting discussion. thank you for sharing
Quote from: muskrat on June 08, 2010, 04:37:04 PM
ok so wife and I are going to the wilderness this Saturday for a week. I downloaded some stuff and now can't find the tv shows. I'm an idiot so treat me with kid gloves and help me find these things.......please.
Have you checked in the "movies" section? sometimes when you put things into itunes it doesnt know exactly what kind of media it is.
So my wife bought me one for father's day, and I just got it delivered yesterday... crikeys, that is a fun little toy. I am impressed. A few quirks... but a lot of fun.
I checked one out a couple days ago.
Want
:D
Quote from: muskrat on April 06, 2010, 02:02:38 PM
alternative for a killer price. I can forgo the touch screen pleasure [beer]
http://gizmodo.com/5389166/how-to-hackintosh-a-dell-mini-10v-into-the-ultimate-snow-leopard-netbook (http://gizmodo.com/5389166/how-to-hackintosh-a-dell-mini-10v-into-the-ultimate-snow-leopard-netbook)
This is actually my main computer, I've forgone my suped up vaio for my fantastic m9 with osx
been considering an ipad...but this just works so damn well
Wife got the Ipad for anniversary and now I want one but the cost of the 64g and no "external" drive connector to store movies on sucks IMO. I found this http://www.archos.com (http://www.archos.com)
What are your thoughts?
I'm holding out for a WeTab (Wepad changed their name). It's about $700 usd, but would meet pretty much all my needs much better. I've been an apple person for almost 15 years, but I'm really annoyed with the lack of flexibility and heat issues with my macbooks. I'm thinking of making a dell netbook/hackintosh for my next machine.
The play on words is getting better.