Schedule (all left coast times)
Fri 30 April 2010
125ccFP1 03:40 - 04:40
MotoGPFP1 04:55 - 05:55
Moto2FP1 06:10 - 07:10
Sat 01 May 2010
125ccFP2 00:00 - 00:40
MotoGPFP2 00:55 - 01:55
Moto2FP2 02:10 - 03:10
125ccQP 04:00 - 04:40
MotoGPQP 04:55 - 05:55
Moto2QP 06:10 - 06:55
Sun 02 May 2010
125ccWUP 23:40 - (Sun) 00:00
Moto2WUP 00:10 - 00:30
MotoGPWUP 00:40 - 01:00
125ccRAC 02:00
Moto2RAC 03:15
MotoGPRAC 05:00
			
			
			
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				Boooooooyaaaaaaaa!
my prediction....SmurfyMcPintmake the beast with two backsstick doesn't podium.
			
			
			
				supposed to be sunny and in the 80s this weekend in jerez
			
			
			
				The Spanish turd will need to figure out the Ohlins quickly. I think Lorenzo might surprise some people.
			
			
			
				Is Lorenzo really a surprise at this point?  He's an established top 3 world talent.
			
			
			
				Quote from: zooom on April 28, 2010, 07:02:08 AM
SmurfyMcPintmake the beast with two backsstick
Quote from: duccarlos on April 28, 2010, 10:34:28 AM
The Spanish turd
I guess they don't let you pick your own nickname.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: NoisyDante on April 28, 2010, 02:58:48 PM
I guess they don't let you pick your own nickname.
there are lots of nicknames for the Eddie Munster of the MotoGP world.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Jester on April 28, 2010, 02:26:40 PM
Is Lorenzo really a surprise at this point?  He's an established top 3 world talent.
He's still "hurt" and people had written him off until mid season. I kinda though he was playing opposum (SP?). Granted, compared to some other tracks Qatar might not be the worst physically, but you can tell that he's strong enough to be at least close to his 2009 season.
			
 
			
			
				judging by his performance at the end of the last race, i'd say he's just fine
			
			
			
				bunch of old jerez stories and photos on soup today.. well worth visiting.
incl this [evil]
(http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2005mgp/jerez/2/4_11.jpg)
			
			
			
				http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Apr/100429rydernotes.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Apr/100429rydernotes.htm)
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/159222/1/rossi_talks_shoulder_damage_top_speed.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/159222/1/rossi_talks_shoulder_damage_top_speed.html)
rossi not 100%... should make for an interesting weekend.
			
			
			
				I don't know why I thought today was qualifying but I got really happy for about 2 minutes when I saw the final times from FP1.
			
			
			
				FP1 results
1.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team    1m    39.731s   
2.    Jorge Lorenzo    SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team    1m    39.875s   
3.    Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team    1m    40.148s   
4.    Dani Pedrosa    SPA   Repsol Honda Team    1m    40.2s   
5.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team    1m    40.359s   
6.    Loris Capirossi    ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    1m    40.716s   
7.    Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    1m    40.913s   
8.    Hector Barbera    SPA   Paginas Amarillas Aspar    1m    41.034s   
9.    Alvaro Bautista SPA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    1m    41.093s   
10.    Marco Melandri    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    1m    41.19s   
11.    Ben Spies    USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    1m    41.200s   
12.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Repsol Honda Team    1m    41.277s   
13.    Randy de Puniet    FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP    1m    41.293s   
14.    Mika Kallio    FIN   Pramac Racing    1m    41.297s   
15.    Marco Simoncelli ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    1m    41.533s   
16.    Aleix Espargaro    SPA   Pramac Racing    1m    41.742s   
17.    Hiroshi Aoyama JPN   Interwetten Honda MotoGP    1m    41.837s
			
			
			
				go nick!
			
			
			
				Go Casey!
			
			
			
				man, that dark horse jorge is really gonna surprise people!   [cheeky] ;D
			
			
			
				GRAN PREMIO bwin DE ESPAÃ'A
Moto2 Free Practice Nr. 1 Classification 
Jerez de la Frontera, Friday, April 30, 2010
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   6   Alex DEBON   SPA   Aeroport de Castello - Ajo   FTR   246.4   1'44.419   
2   2   Gabor TALMACSI   HUN   Fimmco Speed Up   Speed Up   243.9   1'44.880   0.461 / 0.461
3   9   Kenny NOYES   USA   Jack & Jones by A.Banderas   Promoharris   243.6   1'44.920   0.501 / 0.040
4   72   Yuki TAKAHASHI   JPN   Tech 3 Racing   Tech 3   244.5   1'44.977   0.558 / 0.057
5   40   Sergio GADEA   SPA   Tenerife 40 Pons   Pons Kalex   247.0   1'45.162   0.743 / 0.185
6   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Blusens-STX   BQR-Moto2   242.8   1'45.199   0.780 / 0.037
7   60   Julian SIMON   SPA   Mapfre Aspar Team   RSV   243.6   1'45.229   0.810 / 0.030
8   71   Claudio CORTI   ITA   Forward Racing   Suter   242.1   1'45.351   0.932 / 0.122
9   12   Thomas LUTHI   SWI   Interwetten Moriwaki Moto2   Moriwaki   245.0   1'45.352   0.933 / 0.001
10   16   Jules CLUZEL   FRA   Forward Racing   Suter   245.5   1'45.384   0.965 / 0.032
11   44   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Italtrans S.T.R.   Suter   242.7   1'45.418   0.999 / 0.034
12   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   RSV   239.1   1'45.493   1.074 / 0.075
13   24   Toni ELIAS   SPA   Gresini Racing Moto2   Moriwaki   247.9   1'45.517   1.098 / 0.024
14   48   Shoya TOMIZAWA   JPN   Technomag-CIP   Suter   244.5   1'45.560   1.141 / 0.043
15   15   Alex DE ANGELIS   RSM   RSM Team Scot   Force GP210   240.0   1'45.676   1.257 / 0.116
16   8   Anthony WEST   AUS   MZ Racing Team   MZ-RE Honda   239.5   1'45.823   1.404 / 0.147
17   65   Stefan BRADL   GER   Viessmann Kiefer Racing   Suter   245.4   1'45.914   1.495 / 0.091
18   14   Ratthapark WILAIROT   THA   Thai Honda PTT Singha SAG   Bimota   240.2   1'45.924   1.505 / 0.010
19   80   Axel PONS   SPA   Tenerife 40 Pons   Pons Kalex   244.5   1'45.931   1.512 / 0.007
20   25   Alex BALDOLINI   ITA   Caretta Technology Race Dept   I.C.P.   243.2   1'45.951   1.532 / 0.020
21   10   Fonsi NIETO   SPA   Holiday Gym G22   Moriwaki   242.1   1'46.118   1.699 / 0.167
22   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   Marc VDS Racing Team   Suter   243.0   1'46.134   1.715 / 0.016
23   77   Dominique AEGERTER   SWI   Technomag-CIP   Suter   244.9   1'46.237   1.818 / 0.103
24   63   Mike DI MEGLIO   FRA   Mapfre Aspar Team   RSV   242.8   1'46.353   1.934 / 0.116
25   35   Raffaele DE ROSA   ITA   Tech 3 Racing   Tech 3   242.6   1'46.463   2.044 / 0.110
26   3   Simone CORSI   ITA   JIR Moto2   Motobi   243.7   1'46.548   2.129 / 0.085
27   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Fimmco Speed Up   Speed Up   246.5   1'46.558   2.139 / 0.010
28   5   Joan OLIVE   SPA   Jack & Jones by A.Banderas   Promoharris   243.1   1'46.670   2.251 / 0.112
29   39   Robertino PIETRI   VEN   Italtrans S.T.R.   Suter   240.6   1'46.781   2.362 / 0.111
30   55   Hector FAUBEL   SPA   Marc VDS Racing Team   Suter   241.8   1'46.863   2.444 / 0.082
31   59   Niccolo CANEPA   ITA   RSM Team Scot   Force GP210   238.6   1'46.934   2.515 / 0.071
32   52   Lukas PESEK   CZE   Matteoni CP Racing   Moriwaki   244.8   1'46.940   2.521 / 0.006
33   75   Mattia PASINI   ITA   JIR Moto2   Motobi   243.0   1'47.011   2.592 / 0.071
34   41   Arne TODE   GER   Racing Team Germany   Suter   242.6   1'47.016   2.597 / 0.005
35   76   Bernat MARTINEZ   SPA   Maquinza-SAG Team   Bimota   238.4   1'47.178   2.759 / 0.162
36   61   Vladimir IVANOV   UKR   Gresini Racing Moto2   Moriwaki   243.8   1'47.296   2.877 / 0.118
37   92   Amadeo LLADOS   SPA   Llados Racing Team   AJR   236.1   1'47.555   3.136 / 0.259
38   53   Valentin DEBISE   FRA   WTR San Marino Team   ADV   238.8   1'47.747   3.328 / 0.192
39   95   Mashel AL NAIMI   QAT   Blusens-STX   BQR-Moto2   239.7   1'48.195   3.776 / 0.448
40   88   Yannick GUERRA   SPA   Holiday Gym G22   Moriwaki   240.3   1'48.318   3.899 / 0.123
41   21   Vladimir LEONOV   RUS   Vector Kiefer Racing   Suter   238.8   1'48.383   3.964 / 0.065
42   91   Ivan MORENO   SPA   Andalucia Cajasol   Moriwaki   240.2   1'49.000   4.581 / 0.617
			
			
			
				Quote from: gm2 on April 30, 2010, 04:45:40 AM
go nick!
I'm holding my breath (not literally) for a coupla more races, but it really seems like Nicky is back.  God, I'd love to see two Ducs on the podium.  When was the last time that happened?
Spies is going to find at least a second as the weekend goes on (not counting qualifying when he's on soft tires).
			
 
			
			
				Its nice to see Nicky doing well.  I'd love to see him consistantly fight for podiums this season.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Spidey on April 30, 2010, 06:49:52 AM
God, I'd love to see two Ducs on the podium.  
Nicky and Mika?  Casey needs to prove he can finish races consistently after last year and this year's start.
mitt
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: mitt on April 30, 2010, 08:27:17 AM
Nicky and Mika?  Casey needs to prove he can finish races consistently after last year and this year's start.
He doesn't crash 
that much (other than his rookie year on that Honda. Yoikes.  :o )  It's just been a bad run--as you said--over the last two races.  I still say that Rossi is all up in his wheelhouse.  
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Spidey on April 30, 2010, 06:49:52 AM
Spies is going to find at least a second as the weekend goes on (not counting qualifying when he's on soft tires).
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83224 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83224)
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Spidey on April 30, 2010, 10:11:50 AM
He doesn't crash that much (other than his rookie year on that Honda. Yoikes.  :o )  
sabotage!!
and he was still apeshit fast then, too.  pole, first race.  it was just the 2nd half of the year where he was dr. gravel.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: gm2 on April 30, 2010, 11:15:38 AM
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83224 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83224)
Man, am I good or what?  <pats self on back>  
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: gm2 on April 30, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
sabotage!!
and he was still apeshit fast then, too.  pole, first race.  it was just the 2nd half of the year where he was dr. gravel.
Yeah Stoner has never been slow by any stretch of the imagination, and truthfully he's been extremely consistant barring his rookie year.  While I think dumping a bike 3 times when holding a comfortable lead is a bit of a head scratcher, its pretty good considering just about every top rider crashes a couple times a season at some point.  I think the dude's only fault is not knowing when to back off.  Despite his claims of crashing because he slowed down, I've only seen him dump it while trying to set the world on fire by posting stupid fast laps.... eh well if you don't count the warmup debacle at Valencia.
			
 
			
			
				Just watched FP2.  Lorenzo is blazing fast and dropped a bunch of consistant 39's with a 39 flat thrown in.  He's got to be the early favorite to take the victory.  Stoner/Pedro/Rossi all were running consistant low 40's.  Dovi dropped in a good quick lap, but wasn't running quite fast enough consistantly to hang with the "podium 4."   I think we'll be in for a hell of a race.
Rossi seems to be struggling on the back half with the linked rights.  Probably the shoulder giving him some trouble there?
Bring on Qualy!
			
			
			
				Incredible qualifying.  Should be a good race tomorrow.
			
			
			
				GRAN PREMIO bwin DE ESPAÃ'A
MotoGP Qualifying Practice Classification 
Jerez de la Frontera, Saturday, May 01, 2010
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   26   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   278.8   1'39.202   
2   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   277.2   1'39.487   0.285 / 0.285
3   27   Casey STONER   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   Ducati   276.6   1'39.511   0.309 / 0.024
4   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   276.8   1'39.558   0.356 / 0.047
5   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   Ducati   280.2   1'39.560   0.358 / 0.002
6   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   276.2   1'39.591   0.389 / 0.031
7   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   277.0   1'39.970   0.768 / 0.379
8   11   Ben SPIES   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   280.3   1'39.989   0.787 / 0.019
9   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   277.5   1'40.021   0.819 / 0.032
10   33   Marco MELANDRI   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   281.0   1'40.027   0.825 / 0.006
11   65   Loris CAPIROSSI   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   275.6   1'40.206   1.004 / 0.179
12   7   Hiroshi AOYAMA   JPN   Interwetten Honda MotoGP   Honda   275.8   1'40.322   1.120 / 0.116
13   19   Alvaro BAUTISTA   SPA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   278.1   1'40.416   1.214 / 0.094
14   40   Hector BARBERA   SPA   Paginas Amarillas Aspar   Ducati   275.7   1'40.482   1.280 / 0.066
15   41   Aleix ESPARGARO   SPA   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   271.0   1'40.555   1.353 / 0.073
16   58   Marco SIMONCELLI   ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   273.4   1'40.586   1.384 / 0.031
17   36   Mika KALLIO   FIN   Pramac Racing Team   Ducati   277.7   1'40.803   1.601 / 0.217
			
			
			
				Quote from: gm2 on April 29, 2010, 08:50:31 AM
bunch of old jerez stories and photos on soup today.. well worth visiting.
incl this [evil]
(http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2005mgp/jerez/2/4_11.jpg)
The actual moment a career ended [evil]
Good to see Nicky .3 seconds back instead of 2.3 seconds like last year
			
 
			
			
				GRAN PREMIO bwin DE ESPAÃ'A
Moto2 Qualifying Practice Classification 
Jerez de la Frontera, Saturday, May 01, 2010
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Bike   Km/h   Time   Gap 1st/Prev.
1   48   Shoya TOMIZAWA   JPN   Technomag-CIP   Suter   245.5   1'44.372   
2   60   Julian SIMON   SPA   Mapfre Aspar Team   RSV   243.1   1'44.374   0.002 / 0.002
3   24   Toni ELIAS   SPA   Gresini Racing Moto2   Moriwaki   248.2   1'44.424   0.052 / 0.050
4   72   Yuki TAKAHASHI   JPN   Tech 3 Racing   Tech 3   244.5   1'44.463   0.091 / 0.039
5   12   Thomas LUTHI   SWI   Interwetten Moriwaki Moto2   Moriwaki   246.4   1'44.573   0.201 / 0.110
6   65   Stefan BRADL   GER   Viessmann Kiefer Racing   Suter   246.7   1'44.631   0.259 / 0.058
7   2   Gabor TALMACSI   HUN   Fimmco Speed Up   Speed Up   245.7   1'44.661   0.289 / 0.030
8   40   Sergio GADEA   SPA   Tenerife 40 Pons   Pons Kalex   246.1   1'44.694   0.322 / 0.033
9   9   Kenny NOYES   USA   Jack & Jones by A.Banderas   Promoharris   243.4   1'44.712   0.340 / 0.018
10   3   Simone CORSI   ITA   JIR Moto2   Motobi   245.2   1'44.722   0.350 / 0.010
11   8   Anthony WEST   AUS   MZ Racing Team   MZ-RE Honda   240.9   1'44.741   0.369 / 0.019
12   68   Yonny HERNANDEZ   COL   Blusens-STX   BQR-Moto2   240.4   1'44.779   0.407 / 0.038
13   6   Alex DEBON   SPA   Aeroport de Castello - Ajo   FTR   246.4   1'44.783   0.411 / 0.004
14   16   Jules CLUZEL   FRA   Forward Racing   Suter   245.0   1'44.810   0.438 / 0.027
15   35   Raffaele DE ROSA   ITA   Tech 3 Racing   Tech 3   245.0   1'44.943   0.571 / 0.133
16   71   Claudio CORTI   ITA   Forward Racing   Suter   243.7   1'44.957   0.585 / 0.014
17   44   Roberto ROLFO   ITA   Italtrans S.T.R.   Suter   244.6   1'45.063   0.691 / 0.106
18   10   Fonsi NIETO   SPA   Holiday Gym G22   Moriwaki   245.0   1'45.149   0.777 / 0.086
19   25   Alex BALDOLINI   ITA   Caretta Technology Race Dept   I.C.P.   241.5   1'45.179   0.807 / 0.030
20   5   Joan OLIVE   SPA   Jack & Jones by A.Banderas   Promoharris   244.6   1'45.183   0.811 / 0.004
21   77   Dominique AEGERTER   SWI   Technomag-CIP   Suter   246.4   1'45.375   1.003 / 0.192
22   80   Axel PONS   SPA   Tenerife 40 Pons   Pons Kalex   244.4   1'45.404   1.032 / 0.029
23   41   Arne TODE   GER   Racing Team Germany   Suter   245.8   1'45.412   1.040 / 0.008
24   55   Hector FAUBEL   SPA   Marc VDS Racing Team   Suter   242.9   1'45.443   1.071 / 0.031
25   17   Karel ABRAHAM   CZE   Cardion AB Motoracing   RSV   239.4   1'45.448   1.076 / 0.005
26   15   Alex DE ANGELIS   RSM   RSM Team Scot   Force GP210   241.4   1'45.515   1.143 / 0.067
27   45   Scott REDDING   GBR   Marc VDS Racing Team   Suter   241.0   1'45.591   1.219 / 0.076
28   63   Mike DI MEGLIO   FRA   Mapfre Aspar Team   RSV   243.0   1'45.653   1.281 / 0.062
29   29   Andrea IANNONE   ITA   Fimmco Speed Up   Speed Up   249.1   1'45.704   1.332 / 0.051
30   14   Ratthapark WILAIROT   THA   Thai Honda PTT Singha SAG   Bimota   242.3   1'45.705   1.333 / 0.001
31   39   Robertino PIETRI   VEN   Italtrans S.T.R.   Suter   242.4   1'45.770   1.398 / 0.065
32   76   Bernat MARTINEZ   SPA   Maquinza-SAG Team   Bimota   239.0   1'45.962   1.590 / 0.192
33   52   Lukas PESEK   CZE   Matteoni CP Racing   Moriwaki   242.2   1'46.059   1.687 / 0.097
34   59   Niccolo CANEPA   ITA   RSM Team Scot   Force GP210   239.9   1'46.084   1.712 / 0.025
35   61   Vladimir IVANOV   UKR   Gresini Racing Moto2   Moriwaki   244.0   1'46.366   1.994 / 0.282
36   75   Mattia PASINI   ITA   JIR Moto2   Motobi   244.1   1'46.529   2.157 / 0.163
37   92   Amadeo LLADOS   SPA   Llados Racing Team   AJR   241.1   1'46.550   2.178 / 0.021
38   53   Valentin DEBISE   FRA   WTR San Marino Team   ADV   241.2   1'46.772   2.400 / 0.222
39   91   Ivan MORENO   SPA   Andalucia Cajasol   Moriwaki   240.2   1'46.806   2.434 / 0.034
40   88   Yannick GUERRA   SPA   Holiday Gym G22   Moriwaki   240.5   1'47.068   2.696 / 0.262
41   95   Mashel AL NAIMI   QAT   Blusens-STX   BQR-Moto2   241.2   1'47.793   3.421 / 0.725
21   Vladimir LEONOV   RUS   Vector Kiefer Racing   Suter
			
			
			
				Quote from: bozcoRob on May 01, 2010, 03:23:09 PM
Good to see Nicky .3 seconds back instead of 2.3 seconds like last year
iirc, he was consistently ~1s back from stoner last season.
			
 
			
			
				btw, before qualifying 5th nicky had a 132mph off in the saturday morning session.  you should see the replay... phew, ugly.  tumbling, not sliding.  
			
			
			
				wow, what a race...
great ride by pedrosa, amazing ride by lorenzo (his land, indeed)...
hayden over stoner... 
spies out w/ a bad front tire was a downer, though.
			
			
			
				hahah! lorenzo just jumped in the lake!
			
			
			
				race results
1.    Jorge Lorenzo    SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team    45m    17.538s   
2.    Dani Pedrosa    SPA   Repsol Honda Team    45m    18.081s   
3.    Valentino Rossi    ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team    45m    18.428s   
4.    Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team    45m    26.553s   
5.    Casey Stoner    AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team    45m    27.572s   
6.    Andrea Dovizioso    ITA   Repsol Honda Team    45m    40.682s   
7.    Mika Kallio    FIN   Pramac Racing    45m    52.027s   
8.    Marco Melandri    ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    45m    52.225s   
9.    Randy de Puniet    FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP    45m    53.698s   
10.    Alvaro Bautista SPA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    45m    54.329s   
11.    Marco Simoncelli ITA   San Carlo Honda Gresini    45m    54.693s   
12.    Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3    45m    55.798s   
13.    Hector Barbera    SPA   Paginas Amarillas Aspar    45m    55.909s   
14.    Hiroshi Aoyama JPN   Interwetten Honda MotoGP    46m    19.59s   
15.    Aleix Espargaro    SPA   Pramac Racing    +3laps   
DNF:
Ben Spies    USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   
Loris Capirossi    ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP
			
			
			
				the lake jump was awesome. How bout all the contact between lorentho and pethrosa?
			
			
			
				Quote from: derby on May 02, 2010, 03:51:59 AM
wow, what a race...
great ride by pedrosa, amazing ride by lorenzo (his land, indeed)...
hayden over stoner... 
spies out w/ a bad front tire was a downer, though.
Great race. It was nice to see Hayden finally finished in front of a still racing Stoner. Lorenzo definitely isn't afraid to take a chance and shove his bike into some really tight spots either.
			
 
			
			
				Lorenzo has a career in NASCAR  [roll]
Can't blame Dani for staying wide, else he was going down the next time Whoregay hit him...
I've seen aggressive racing, but I think this was a bit over the top - maybe one bump/close call, but after the second time they hit it was obvious (to me, fwiw) that Lorenzo was passing too dangerously, imo.
			
			
			
				Quote from: OT on May 02, 2010, 08:33:42 AM
Lorenzo has a career in NASCAR  [roll]
Can't blame Dani for staying wide, else he was going down the next time Whoregay hit him...
I've seen aggressive racing, but I think this was a bit over the top - maybe one bump/close call, but after the second time they hit it was obvious (to me, fwiw) that Lorenzo was passing too dangerously, imo.
if you think that's over the top, stay far away from watching british superbike.
fwiw, i have no problem with the racing today, especially at the front.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: derby on May 02, 2010, 08:55:29 AM
if you think that's over the top, stay far away from watching british superbike.
fwiw, i have no problem with the racing today, especially at the front.
+1
This is the kind of racing we look for imo.  I found myself really rooting for pedro on the last few laps.  I think he showed some mettle by sticking to his lines and forcing his will on Lorenzo.  Ultimately Lorenzo had too much pace, but Dani didn't just lay down like we've seen him do in the past.  Another solid result for Nicky, I think he's officially back.  I was waiting for Lorenzo to drown in the lake after he found getting out wasn't going to happen  [laugh].  That was epic.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Jester on May 02, 2010, 09:07:59 AM
 I was waiting for Lorenzo to drown in the lake after he found getting out wasn't going to happen  [laugh].  That was epic.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/j639qp.jpg)
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: derby on May 02, 2010, 08:55:29 AM
if you think that's over the top, stay far away from watching british superbike.
fwiw, i have no problem with the racing today, especially at the front.
+2.
anyone think rossi wouldn't have done the same?
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: OT on May 02, 2010, 08:33:42 AM
I've seen aggressive racing, but I think this was a bit over the top - maybe one bump/close call, but after the second time they hit it was obvious (to me, fwiw) that Lorenzo was passing too dangerously, imo.
Uh... the second time Dani lifted up Jorge on purpose. Neither we're giving and inch and Dani was using racecraft to force Jorge wide... It was nothing untoward as evidenced by them shaking hands afterwards.
Fwiw, 15 finishers is pretty weak imo, they need at least 4 more bikes on the grid.
			
 
			
			
				Trying not to look at the race results as I post!!
F*CK SPEED!!  Where's MotoGP?!  Truck racing!!   [bang]
			
			
			
				Quote from: tufty on May 02, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Uh... the second time Dani lifted up Jorge on purpose. Neither we're giving and inch and Dani was using racecraft to force Jorge wide... It was nothing untoward as evidenced by them shaking hands afterwards.
Fwiw, 15 finishers is pretty weak imo, they need at least 4 more bikes on the grid.
In the post race press conferance, the three riders were asked about the overtaking, and all three pretty much gave the same answer.  Its just part of motorcycle racing and you have to attempt those maneuvers if you're in the fight on the last few laps.  They are out there to do what it takes to win.
As far as more bikes in the field, I don't really know if putting more backmarkers on the grid just to fill it out does much good, but obviously the 2012 rule changes will most likely be taking care of that.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: IZ on May 02, 2010, 11:10:04 AM
Trying not to look at the race results as I post!!
F*CK SPEED!!  Where's MotoGP?!  Truck racing!!   [bang]
Speed had the race on live this morning, and they are also replaying it again today at some point along with the support classes.
I watched it on motogp.com, but also have the races recorded too.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: IZ on May 02, 2010, 11:10:04 AM
Trying not to look at the race results as I post!!
F*CK SPEED!!  Where's MotoGP?!  Truck racing!!   [bang]
it was at 8am this morning on Speed
			
 
			
			
				Awesome race by Lorenzo.  [bow_down] The battle between him and Pedrosa was super!
 
Great to see Hayden back!  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
			
			
			
				the two top spaniards battling for the win, in jerez.  are you kidding me?  i'm surprised they weren't out there with swords.
incredible racing.  bravo to pedro for holding him off that long.  and george.. wow.  this new race strategy is make the beast with two backsin impressive.
spies issue was not a bad tire.  some "front end" issue, but not a bad tire.
 [thumbsup] [thumbsup] for nicky!
how about kallio?!  from last to 7th.  wow.
			
			
			
				And the Moto2 race...damn!
			
			
			
				Quote from: desmoquattro on May 02, 2010, 02:46:46 PM
And the Moto2 race...damn!
+1 
Who's Kenny Hoye? He was great to watch for most of the race. Why was Elias hitting the tail of his bike? Did he want Hoye to tuck in behind him so they could try to gap everyone?
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Triple J on May 02, 2010, 02:49:15 PM
+1 
Who's Kenny Hoye? He was great to watch for most of the race. Why was Elias hitting the tail of his bike? Did he want Hoye to tuck in behind him so they could try to gap everyone?
Kenny Noyes? He's an American racer who's been running in the Spanish Superbike races for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Noyes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Noyes)
He also contributes to Roadracing World.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: gm2 on May 02, 2010, 02:05:50 PM
spies issue was not a bad tire.  some "front end" issue, but not a bad tire.
 
Are you still staring heart-broken at a blank TV? ;D
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: desmoquattro on May 02, 2010, 03:05:17 PM
Kenny Noyes? He's an American racer who's been running in the Spanish Superbike races for a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Noyes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Noyes)
He also contributes to Roadracing World.
Oops...Noyes, yes. Thanks [thumbsup]
			
 
			
			
				Wow...Yeah!  That Moto2 race was unbelievable.  Kenny Noyes was awesome.  I really thought he had a chance to win.  I dont know what happened towards the end but I think his tires must have been shot...
I actually thought the Moto2 race was a little better than the wsbk assen race...
			
			
			
				Quote from: Roy on May 02, 2010, 04:27:58 PM
I actually thought the Moto2 race was a little better than the wsbk assen race...
That's saying a lot, especially considering how kick ass the second Assen race was.
			
 
			
			
				The amount of bikes in moto2 is almost retarded.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Jester on May 02, 2010, 11:41:07 PM
The amount of bikes crashing in turn 6 in moto2 is almost retarded.
There..fixed it for ya.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Triple J on May 02, 2010, 02:49:15 PM
Why was Elias hitting the tail of his bike? Did he want Hoye to tuck in behind him so they could try to gap everyone?
Only Toni knows, but I think it was for exactly the reason you state.  I thought he was being a little cocky, but he shut me up in the end  :).
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Cider on May 03, 2010, 05:39:21 AM
Only Toni knows, but I think it was for exactly the reason you state.  I thought he was being a little cocky, but he shut me up in the end  :).
if he hadn't run wide after tapping his tail (twice!), kenny might've actually followed him...
			
 
			
			
				I am tall, you are small
(http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2010/MotoGP/n509334_pedrosa.lorenzo.slideshow.jpg)
			
			
			
				quick...someone photoshop drips coming off his suit!
			
			
			
				wow pedrosa is really a lot shorter than lorenzo, never realized it was that much till that picture.
			
			
			
				The height difference is accentuated by the podium steps as well.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Triple J on May 03, 2010, 07:00:11 AM
The height difference is accentuated by the podium steps as well.
Yep, just thought it was funny.
mitt
			
 
			
			
				You know I watched the Speed telecast live in the morning and thought the mid-race was pretty boring til I watch the Eurosport edition. The Gresini twin Marcos were having a knock down drag out with de Puniet & Kallio mostly watching from a safe distance. a damn good day to be a spaniard in Spain.
			
			
			
				Quote from: tufty on May 02, 2010, 03:08:13 PM
Are you still staring heart-broken at a blank TV? ;D
no, i'm ok now.  i've started cutting.
			
 
			
			
				A shit-ton of great photos from Jerez:  http://www.rideontwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2671 (http://www.rideontwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2671)
And gm2 can probably relieve at least some of his distress by going through all the pages of that thread.   [cheeky]
			
			
			
				MONDAY TESTING
1. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1m 39.425s 60 laps
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1m 39.480s 61 laps
3. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team 1m 39.506s 71 laps
4. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 1m 39.609s 63 laps
5. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1m 39.760s 71 laps
6. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team 1m 39.786s 66 laps
7. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1m 39.906s 70 laps
8. Ben Spies USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1m 39.958s 48 laps
9. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1m 40.040s 77 laps
10. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1m 40.042s 60 laps
11. Marco Melandri ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1m 40.129s 84 laps
12. Marco Simoncelli ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1m 40.370s 83 laps
13. Mika Kallio FIN Pramac Racing 1m 40.446s 102 laps
14. Alvaro Bautista SPA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1m 40.463s 79 laps
15. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Interwetten Honda MotoGP 1m 40.470s 97 laps
16. Aleix Espargaro SPA Pramac Racing 1m 40.686s 100 laps
17. Hector Barbera SPA Paginas Amarillas Aspar 1m 40.932s 95 laps
			
			
			
				Quote from: Spidey on May 03, 2010, 09:17:24 AM
A shit-ton of great photos from Jerez:  http://www.rideontwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2671 (http://www.rideontwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2671)
And gm2 can probably relieve at least some of his distress by going through all the pages of that thread.   [cheeky]
ya know, it's not like i haven't seen 100 photos like this.. but, still: wow.
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/100844-2/mgp_2010_04_30_Jerez_AndreaDovizioso_8312.jpg)
			
 
			
			
				I dunno, aside from the whole being short thing, I'd take his life in a heartbeat.  I'm a grumpy man, so I can identify.
			
			
			
				any more lake pictures?
mitt
			
			
			
				More lake
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8334/27771417565193627583368.jpg)
And some Monster boobies   ;D
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/102092-2/4567834251_255c4297b8_o.jpg)
			
			
			
				 [clap]
fantastic  [thumbsup]
			
			
			
				the pic with the ducks quacks me up.   ;D
mitt
			
			
			
				OTT interview with The Ben:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6697349 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/6697349)
Edit:  I don't know if I can go a full season with if The Ben insists on tweaking my good v. well issue.  I might throw the computer through a window.
			
			
			
				Finally watched the race last night. The GP race was great. The Moto2 race was phenomenal. I was worried when we lost the 250's but the racing is speaking for itself.
			
			
			
				So Bridgestone has confirmed no problems with Spies front tire and Tech-3 has said no issues with the front end on Ben's bike.  I wonder what really happened?  Did Ben lose his cojones with a bit of slide on the front?  I was under the impression one of his gifts is that he handles front/rear slides very well and has no problem with the bike when it gets a bit out of shape.  I understand it was early in the race, but he wasn't the only rider with complaints of the front end trying to fold.  Mystery!
			
			
			
				Quote from: Jester on May 14, 2010, 09:32:35 AM
and Tech-3 has said no issues with the front end on Ben's bike
where's that?
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: gm2 on May 14, 2010, 11:31:54 AM
where's that?
I gleaned the info from this article.
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-no-tire-problem-on-spies-bike/P1 (http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-no-tire-problem-on-spies-bike/P1)
			
 
			
			
				huh.  and the data showed the bike was going all wonky.  weird.
			
			
			
				A guy on the Wera forum noted that Bridgestone complained loudly that the tire was good, but Ohlins said nothing.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Jester on May 14, 2010, 09:32:35 AM
Did Ben lose his cojones with a bit of slide on the front?  
No.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Spidey on May 14, 2010, 11:56:49 AM
No.
Ben thanks you for your support.(http://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/b/Ben%20Spies%20Qatar.jpg)
			
 
			
			
				I have that poster on the ceiling above my bed.  ;D  <bats eyes>  He's so dreamy.  
			
			
			
				Quote from: Spidey on May 14, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
I have that poster on the ceiling above my bed.  ;D  <bats eyes>  He's so dreamy.  
You know how I know you're gay?
  ;D
			
 
			
			
				Is it cuz this is what I consider business casual?
(http://www.dsphotographic.com/g2/16031-3/Manchester+Pride+Parade+-+016.jpg)
			
			
			
				Hmmm.
Stoner lost the front end in Qatar.
Ben has some funny business going on with the front end on his bike at Jerez.
Didn't Capirossi lose the front as well?
Rossi suffering with a lack of rear grip, perhaps meaning he's biased his setup to get front grip?
From the linked article:
However, Tohru Ubukata, manager of tire development for Bridgestone, is certain that the front tire on Spies' bike was not the problem.
"We have checked the construction and rubber of the front tire and cannot find any difference," Ubukata said.
"The tire has been sent to Japan for further checks but we will not find any difference; we did all the fundamental checks at the track."
I'm not buying that level of certainty from a track inspection.
			
			
			
				Quote from: Speeddog on May 14, 2010, 08:27:35 PM
Hmmm.
Stoner lost the front end in Qatar.
Ben has some funny business going on with the front end on his bike at Jerez.
Didn't Capirossi lose the front as well?
Rossi suffering with a lack of rear grip, perhaps meaning he's biased his setup to get front grip?
From the linked article:
However, Tohru Ubukata, manager of tire development for Bridgestone, is certain that the front tire on Spies' bike was not the problem.
"We have checked the construction and rubber of the front tire and cannot find any difference," Ubukata said.
"The tire has been sent to Japan for further checks but we will not find any difference; we did all the fundamental checks at the track."
I'm not buying that level of certainty from a track inspection.
Casey and Ducati both said that they had less front grip because the new long bang motor gives them more rear grip, which pushes the front more.
			
 
			
			
				Casey lost the front going into the corner, no throttle involved, IIRC.
Pretty sure for Capi as well.