i don't think i've sena video with so many crashes in the same spot, kind of crazy!
LA Canyon Motorcycle Drive Wipeouts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD2rScEvpMw#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Looking at the terrain, it's mother nature putting sand there. The bulk of them loose it right in front of an unstable bluff like face. There's probably a constant stream of small stuff coming down it. Some of the locals should get some road paint and mark it as a SLOW area.
The 1st guy totally locked is rear wheel. At least he was ok, and also rode the locked wheel down. If he'd released it after that slide started he might have shot himself much further over the cliff... could have been real bad then
I can't see the video just yet. It's blocked here so I'll have to wait till I get home.
I see that it says "LA Canyon" and can say from first hand experience that sand does "happen" (is there sand in the road in the vid?).
For example: on Laurel Canyon road between Mulholland and Hollywood there are a number of places where water seems to come right out of the rock. I don't know whether it's natural, or someone on the hill like Brad Pitt just taking a shower. Then on Muholland between 101 and Laurel Canyon there are a number of places where rocks, dirt, sand, etc always seem to find their way into the lane.
Of cours there are many more occasions of this; these are just two examples that come to mind immediately.
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on April 30, 2010, 06:15:01 AM
i wasn't serious about his putting it there, but, it seems sand is the culprit, sure are a lot of people enjoying themselves watching people fall
You might as well say the same thing, cause they know its going to happen. they dont bother to tell people.
Id find the person who makes that video and knock his teeth in. Obviously hes video taping for fun. someone could seriously get hurt like that guy in yellow, im sure he broke a rib.
Those vids are from a stretch of road called The Snake, it's Mulholland Drive near the Rock Store.
*Lots* of bikes go through there.
There's at least one photographer there every weekend.
Not sure why so many folks bin it there, the corner's not that difficult.
That is so weird. In the last bit of the clip you can see guys coming through on the same line and same speed. One guy makes it and one guy doesn't. ? ? All rear end slide out low sides. The front wheels don't let go. Mostly all exiting the corner except for the first guy in the yellow who locks up his rear wheel ahead of the corner entrance.
I've seen that video posted and analyzed on a coupla different forums. IIRC, someone said that the end of the turn is surprisingly off-camber (which you can't see in the vids).
Quote from: Speeddog on April 30, 2010, 06:29:13 AM
There's at least one photographer there every weekend.
The presence of the camera contributes more to the crashes than any presence of sand.....
Quote from: mikeb on April 30, 2010, 07:53:16 AM
The presence of the camera contributes more to the crashes than any presence of sand.....
+1
it may also be the acceleration out of the corner combined with sand, some people might crank it harder than others, lose grip
The turn is going uphill the whole way, but does level off a tiny bit at the exit.
But it's not a hard turn.
Surprised more folks don't bin it going the other way, as it's a long downhill run to that corner.
Interesting video. It really didn't look like most the guys who went down were really attacking the corner that hard. Even the bikes with rear ends letting go on the exit didn't sound like the riders where accelerating hard.
i think you might not be able to hear them well, at 2:12 i think i am right. maybe other times too.
if you look at the guy that goes over the hill, you can see that the guard rail has been hit enough times to cause it to bend .
Theres someting fishy going on there.
the guy on 1:55 loses his shoe. lol
Theres defintely loads of sand there... but why everyone rather films then try to get a sign put up...
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on April 30, 2010, 09:30:51 AM
i think you might not be able to hear them well, at 2:12 i think i am right. maybe other times too.
The R1 at around 2:12 engine revs after the tire lets go, before that he was pretty steady on the throttle.
Quote from: He Man on April 30, 2010, 09:33:57 AM
most of these guys look like they know what they are doing on the bike. the rear just kicks out, you dont hear the engine rev up. i think theres something fishy going on.
+1, besides the first guy, they more or less look like they were doing what they should be doing.
i wanted to say, that ive been in some tricky sitatuations at slow speed, which this looks like. ~30mph ish. its not that easy to lose the rear tire unless theres debries. and even then, if is a line of sand, usually you'll end up hooking back up once you slide past the sand... so there has to be a lot of make the beast with two backsing sand thats blending in.
Quote from: pennyrobber on April 30, 2010, 09:37:42 AM
The R1 at around 2:12 engine revs after the tire lets go, before that he was pretty steady on the throttle.
+1, besides the first guy, they more or less look like they were doing what they should be doing.
IMHO I wouldn't call that steady, i can hear it going in and out. anyways, weird spot. other than the t-shirts, didn't seem like they were riding like assholes.
I've ridden that corner many times, I don't consider it to be a very challenging corner apart from it is longer than one might originally anticipate. Perhaps some of them had to change their apex because they weren't looking through the turn and lost traction? Who knows, but it's amazing how some of those back tires stepped out like they did.
It's a common tourist spot, I don't think the camera operator had the intention of capturing only dumps, and who knows what the motivation was in making the compilation. Could have been honorable, or a cautionary tool.
Quote from: DucatiTorrey on April 30, 2010, 09:46:53 AM
IMHO I wouldn't call that steady, i can hear it going in and out. anyways, weird spot. other than the t-shirts, didn't seem like they were riding like assholes.
For sure mid-corner he was on and off the gas, but at the point of the low side it seemed like he had steadied out. Not trying to argue, just trying to figure it out. T-shirts and ICON chest guards make you go faster.
At 1:44 there looks like there is a M1100. :'( Looked smooth and steady till the back said bye.
Quote from: DarkDuc696 on May 01, 2010, 12:52:31 PM
At 1:44 there looks like there is a M1100. :'( Looked smooth and steady till the back said bye.
i think your right. maybe i can get his rear shock. or engine [evil]
next time, just slam the handle bars right, and then straight and gun the accelerator [laugh]
IMPOSSIBLE crash save. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkYKFZEeEE4&feature=related#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Thats awesome, lucky bastid
Quote from: He Man on May 01, 2010, 01:30:05 PM
next time, just slam the handle bars right, and then straight and gun the accelerator [laugh]
I could do that.
On the snake section of Mulholland shown) its lack of rider skill and poor throttle control ( and that you can hear all over that video)... which leads to the rear stepping out and those dudes going down. There's far more difficult sections of canyon road nearby... but no cameraman to immortalize them....
i think most people who had the rear step out like that werent too hard on the throttle, in fact it was pretty neutral. all the revs were after the tire had unhooked and the wheel was aleady off the ground.
okay, I've refrained from replying long enough, but if you haven't been on that section of road before, saying things like "there's something fishy... the guy with the camera put sand on the road" (yes, I know that's not the exact quote) is just plain dumb.
That road is practically in my back yard. I know the cameraman. He actually keeps a large pushbroom in his truck specifically to keep the roadway clean.
I won't ride there on weekends between march and november if I can help it. There are just too many idiots who just plain can't ride out there. If I do ride the Snake on a weekend, I'll get up reeaallly early and hit it before 8am. There are crashes in many different corners on that stretch of road. This particular corner happens to have a very wide shoulder on the inside of the turn where sightseers, tourists, and the like sit and watch the bikes and European sportscars worth 100's of thousands of $$$ go up and down the road all day long. (Fabio crashed a Ferrari in that same corner a little while back... YouTube it.)
Just above the curve is a large turnout where riders will turn around and have another go at the Snake, or just take a break. The view is gorgeous! That's why you see a lot of people hanging around. They're not there "waiting to see someone crash" as someone said.
The sheer amount of riders (100's and 100's) that go through this iconic section of Mulholland Drive on weekends is probably why there are more crashes on that section also. It's less than 10 minutes from the 101 freeway, and only a mile or two from the world famous Rock Store that Jay Leno is fond of frequenting. I'm not trying to name drop or anything, just trying to explain the massive amounts of motorcycles that go through there. It's just NUTS! Lawbreaker and Speeddog and a few others can attest to that fact.
Anyway, sorry to come off all grumpy, but accusing people of deliberately putting sand or debris in the road in hopes the can catch a crash on camera is just asinine.
If you've never ridden that road or seen the craziness that is the Rock Store, I invite you to pm me. I'd be glad to take you on a ride through some of SoCal's most beautiful roads. Afterwards, breakfast at the Rock Store is on me! [thumbsup] Ride Safe Everyone! [moto]
[beer]
-Ryan
[bacon]
Ha. I was about to post about how it looked fishy... :P Seriously...it looked to odd to see the back ends all lose it that way.
I'd love to get out there sometime, when I feel I'm ready for it. I don't think it's too far from me.
Joel
Seriously... there's an inordinate number of squids out there.. :P
Come on up, I'll go easy on ya! [thumbsup]
[bacon]
except the first one, everyone else didn't get hurt at all. it seems like they are mad about their bike lol
I don't see any breaking except the first one.
so what if you were taking that kinda curve, got scared, just stopped accelerating or even grabbed cluth?
Quote from: NoisyDante on May 01, 2010, 01:33:31 PM
Thats awesome, lucky bastid
it certainly worked out better than it did the previous year:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1xgz2_crash-ama-supersport-barber-avril-2_auto (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1xgz2_crash-ama-supersport-barber-avril-2_auto)
Geoff May Supersport crash at Barber Motorsports park (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JsVOtRPA40#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 01, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
okay, I've refrained from replying long enough, but if you haven't been on that section of road before, saying things like "there's something fishy... the guy with the camera put sand on the road" (yes, I know that's not the exact quote) is just plain dumb.
That road is practically in my back yard. I know the cameraman. He actually keeps a large pushbroom in his truck specifically to keep the roadway clean.
I won't ride there on weekends between march and november if I can help it. There are just too many idiots who just plain can't ride out there. If I do ride the Snake on a weekend, I'll get up reeaallly early and hit it before 8am. There are crashes in many different corners on that stretch of road. This particular corner happens to have a very wide shoulder on the inside of the turn where sightseers, tourists, and the like sit and watch the bikes and European sportscars worth 100's of thousands of $$$ go up and down the road all day long. (Fabio crashed a Ferrari in that same corner a little while back... YouTube it.)
Just above the curve is a large turnout where riders will turn around and have another go at the Snake, or just take a break. The view is gorgeous! That's why you see a lot of people hanging around. They're not there "waiting to see someone crash" as someone said.
The sheer amount of riders (100's and 100's) that go through this iconic section of Mulholland Drive on weekends is probably why there are more crashes on that section also. It's less than 10 minutes from the 101 freeway, and only a mile or two from the world famous Rock Store that Jay Leno is fond of frequenting. I'm not trying to name drop or anything, just trying to explain the massive amounts of motorcycles that go through there. It's just NUTS! Lawbreaker and Speeddog and a few others can attest to that fact.
Anyway, sorry to come off all grumpy, but accusing people of deliberately putting sand or debris in the road in hopes the can catch a crash on camera is just asinine.
If you've never ridden that road or seen the craziness that is the Rock Store, I invite you to pm me. I'd be glad to take you on a ride through some of SoCal's most beautiful roads. Afterwards, breakfast at the Rock Store is on me! [thumbsup] Ride Safe Everyone! [moto]
[beer]
-Ryan
[bacon]
Couldnt have said it better... I can think of at four or five times I road that road with Bacon and Stu (at a steadyish pace) and never have gotten close to that happening... My favorite story relating to the snake, Im in my music class and this guy sees me walk in with a helmet... "you ride?" he asks (in a cool guy tone)
"Yes" I reply
"Nice bro what do you ride?"
"A Monster 750 I reply"
"Oh nice man I was going to get one of those but they are way too slow. I crashed my CBR 600 at the Rockstorea few weeks back... I just picked up an R1"
"Ok" I replied Quickly trying to get to my class to avoid this moron.
"well if you think you can keep up on your little bike you should ride with us... we meet at about 12 at the Rockstore on Sundays"
"Ok" I say
"Also" he says pointing at my jacket "it gets hot out there so you might not want to wear a jacket."
Ponder that one
Quote from: lawbreaker on May 01, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
its lack of rider skill and poor throttle control
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 01, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
There are just too many idiots who just plain can't ride out there.
QFT.
I went through there a few months ago for the first time and after we got to the top with the turnout I thought "Is that it?" I am by far an excellent rider but I was expecting something much more difficult after seeing all the videos. Maybe that was the trick? Not being complacent?
Most of those crash videos, for the ones where they go down in the barrier, what I see mostly is target fixation. A lot of them if the guy would just get off the brakes, turn his head and lean his fricken bike, he'd make the turn. They stare that barrier down and blammo.
There's a kid in our local riding group that wadded up his bike there and after examining the video (which he claims he just 'lost the front end") we determined that he didn't countersteer. As said above, no skill. This young man joined the local Ruff Ryders so he could wear t shirts and skate shoes without getting heckled by the rest of us.
That's the majority. Of course there will be weird instances where someone extremely skilled has a bad day. Please don't come after me about how your buddy who used to race and blahblahblah crashed there.
Quote from: Privateer on May 02, 2010, 05:07:39 AM
QFT.
I went through there a few months ago for the first time and after we got to the top with the turnout I thought "Is that it?" I am by far an excellent rider but I was expecting something much more difficult after seeing all the videos. Maybe that was the trick? Not being complacent?
yup, that's it... i much prefer the ride(s) north of ojai.
Quote from: derby on May 02, 2010, 05:55:32 AM
yup, that's it... i much prefer the ride(s) north of ojai.
Next sunday we're going up the 33...
I know it's Mother's Day, but that just means everyone else will be hanging out with mom and not on the road. ;)
besides, my mom lives 3,000 miles away
Check out the SoCal board for details
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 01, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Anyway, sorry to come off all grumpy, but accusing people of deliberately putting sand or debris in the road in hopes the can catch a crash on camera is just asinine.
If you've never ridden that road or seen the craziness that is the Rock Store, I invite you to pm me. I'd be glad to take you on a ride through some of SoCal's most beautiful roads. Afterwards, breakfast at the Rock Store is on me! [thumbsup] Ride Safe Everyone! [moto]
[beer]
-Ryan
[bacon]
Time for a road trip to Cali. Free breakfast is always welcome. [thumbsup]
We have a road out here near Phoenix that claims many bikes on the weekends. I would say from what I have seen and heard, rider skill is often the culprit in the crashes.
It isnt that asnine. Theres people out here who run fishing wire across poles and video tape people getting walking into them, or riding bicycles into them.
But you know that road more than I do, and if there is just an insane amount of sand on the road, i dont see why people still ride it. as for me, ill equip the front of my bike with a big ass fan. [moto]
Quote from: He Man on May 02, 2010, 09:25:56 AM
But you know that road more than I do, and if there is just an insane amount of sand on the road, i dont see why people still ride it. as for me, ill equip the front of my bike with a big ass fan. [moto]
I've never experienced any sand on that road.
The Mulholland Road I mentioned before with sand and rocks, while technically the same road, it about 30 miles away and in the heart of Hollywood.
The section of Mulholland in the video, known as "The Snake" is in the middle of the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area. To know it is to want to ride it. Trust me, there ain't no roads like in it NYC. [cheeky]
Quote from: NorDog on May 02, 2010, 09:43:33 AM
Trust me, there ain't no roads like in it NYC. [cheeky]
:'(
I ride out 2-3 hours and the roads are pretty decent.
THe only real fun road ive ever been on was Sky Line Dr.
Quote from: He Man on May 02, 2010, 10:16:47 AM
:'(
I ride out 2-3 hours and the roads are pretty decent.
THe only real fun road ive ever been on was Sky Line Dr.
go north and west young man [thumbsup]
Quote from: He Man on May 02, 2010, 09:25:56 AM
It isnt that asnine. Theres people out here who run fishing wire across poles and video tape people getting walking into them, or riding bicycles into them.
But you know that road more than I do, and if there is just an insane amount of sand on the road, i dont see why people still ride it. as for me, ill equip the front of my bike with a big ass fan. [moto]
I guess you missed the part where I said the photog keeps a broom in his truck just in case some dirt or debris makes it's way into the road. There are wide shoulders on either side, so debris doesn't often get on the road. There really is hardly any sand on that part of the road anyway!
Also, think about it... If anyone even
thought of spreadin sand on the road in order to cause a wreck, and if they were dumb enough to hang around to watch, with that many riders and spectators there they would be in for the beating of their life!
Just say'n. I've never had a problem in that corner, even when riding briskly:
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp231/tazios/_DSC1707-Edit.jpg)
Believe it or not, but I'm only doing about 30mph here. Speed limit on this section of road is 35mph...
yea it doenst look that fast in teh vids either, but i relly dont know how they can loose the rear tht quickly without any sand. ive done some stright up stupid shit and even got caught up on a rope once and slid out the rear at 30mph fully leaned over and once the tire hooked back on, it was fine. shit my pants but fine.
Quote from: He Man on May 02, 2010, 12:34:16 PM
yea it doenst look that fast in teh vids either, but i relly dont know how they can loose the rear tht quickly without any sand. ive done some stright up stupid shit and even got caught up on a rope once and slid out the rear at 30mph fully leaned over and once the tire hooked back on, it was fine. shit my pants but fine.
a rope? :P
the strangest shit happens to you.
Sure noone has a voodoo doll of you or something?
Quote from: lethe on May 02, 2010, 12:38:21 PM
a rope? :P
the strangest shit happens to you.
Sure noone has a voodoo doll of you or something?
this was at an airstrip. there was just a rope sitting there i didnt notice. lol
Quote from: He Man on May 02, 2010, 12:54:03 PM
this was at an airstrip. there was just a rope sitting there i didnt notice. lol
Did you ever touch your knee down at the airstrip?
Quote from: He Man on May 02, 2010, 12:34:16 PM
yea it doenst look that fast in teh vids either, but i relly dont know how they can loose the rear tht quickly without any sand. ive done some stright up stupid shit and even got caught up on a rope once and slid out the rear at 30mph fully leaned over and once the tire hooked back on, it was fine. shit my pants but fine.
it's really just operator error. You get these frickin' squids who asked daddy to but them a 150+ hp bike for their birthday/graduation/ whatever and they just have no clue about how to properly ride, or they have a beer or three at the Rock Store, or whAtever the make the beast with two backs...
Like Miles posted earlier in the thread about the kid at college who crashed his cbr600 so he got an R1 instead, and told him not to wear a jacket because he'd get too hot, [roll] it's this kind of mentality that attributes to accidents.
This road is freeway close, has
very affluent communities surrounding it, and easily accessible to the greater L.A. Area, a climate where it's possible to ride 12 months a year, so there are many more motorcycles in this area than just about anywhere else.
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 02, 2010, 01:50:18 PM
This road is freeway close, has very affluent communities surrounding it, and easily accessible to the greater L.A. Area, a climate where it's possible to ride 12 months a year, so there are many more motorcycles in this area than just about anywhere else.
Try it on new years day. Hardly anyone there. But yeah, the amount of people that wad up their bikes on the guard rail is astounding.
this is my favorite one:
R6 Crash into guardrail w added Stills from different angle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1p3iRBTfeY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
Quote from: Privateer on May 02, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
Try it on new years day. Hardly anyone there. But yeah, the amount of people that wad up their bikes on the guard rail is astounding.
this is my favorite one:
R6 Crash into guardrail w added Stills from different angle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1p3iRBTfeY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
was there this past New Year's... Like a ghost town. ;) Also, Thanksgiving and Christmas are good times too! [thumbsup]
As for the vid, even before the stills, you can see he's trying to steer the bike like a car instead of counter-steering. [roll] Washes the front end out.
Who knows maybe he rode a Can-Am Spyder before the R6...
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 02, 2010, 12:26:43 PM
Also, think about it... If anyone even thought of spreadin sand on the road in order to cause a wreck, and if they were dumb enough to hang around to watch, with that many riders and spectators there they would be in for the beating of their life!
i don't think anyone said thats what they thought was happening
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 02, 2010, 02:22:17 PM
was there this past New Year's... Like a ghost town. ;) Also, Thanksgiving and Christmas are good times too! [thumbsup]
As for the vid, even before the stills, you can see he's trying to steer the bike like a car instead of counter-steering. [roll] Washes the front end out.
Who knows maybe he rode a Can-Am Spyder before the R6...
ATGATT, except for the running shoes.
There is a guy down here in San Diego area that takes photos as well (actually there are a number of them on Palomar Mt. and highway 94) They usually setup on slow corners. The problem is that people see the photographer and try to lean over a lot more than their present velocity will support, also looking at the photographer rather than where you are going doesn't help either.
Pay attention to riding so you don't end up on the blooper reel.
Quote from: NorDog on May 02, 2010, 01:39:45 PM
Did you ever touch your knee down at the airstrip?
yea Its wide enough to do it at 40mph max, but thats as as safe as you can go on a sport bike. On a monster 40 is pushing it because the pegs are lower.
After watching that video, yea sorry guys, i take everything back. That guy is staright up retarded trying to steer the bike that way. And juding from that angle, you shouldnt need to be that leaned over if you hang off a bit....and stick your damn head out over your bars isntead of hanging around the middle ofyour bike.
this guy looks good, and damn that road looks fun
Kawasaki ZX6R on the Snake - Mulholland Hwy, CA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWNAJ3uG9i0&feature=channel#lq-lq2-hq-vhq-hd)
Quote from: NorDog on May 02, 2010, 06:08:56 PM
ATGATT, except for the running shoes.
haha
yeah. he got a large ration of shit for that. I feel bad for the bike, he'd only had it for a month after riding a hyosung 250 for like 6 months. One of those young kids who think they know everything and doesn't listen to the advice the old guys give them.
u know the guy?
tell him ill buy that R1 off him. i want one. ;) ill give him a pair of proper boots for it.. ;D
As somebody who points cameras for a living, my experience tells me inexperienced rider conscious of photographer+photographer is gonna equal bad news.
This in addition to everything already said.
Young men trying to look good and cameras are always comedy. And there are a LOT of cameras on The Snake.
The Snake... The road that has done more to bring law enforcement to Malibu canyons than any other.
No sand, no gravel, and that last corner has great camber, tons of grip, and opens up with lots of room to spare...
Every single rider in that video series had either bad form, or bad application., mostly both. The first guy that smacks the guardrail sure looks like he has NO front brake on! (in freeze frame anyways)
Back in the day, I can remember going around the guardrail turn knee down, at well over 40, although now I tend to restrict my speeds on the street, I can tell you that you can seriously haul the mail on that road, but the consequences are huge, as every corner has a cliff, a wall, or a guardrail, or all three. I ride it every Sunday I'm not at the track, and I'm still AMAZED by the general lack of rider skill out there...
Ive been instructing riders on the racetrack since 1996, and the roads around Malibu are a GREAT way to see what NOT to do!
If you want to get a good idea of the amount of riders that go through that area on any given weekend, checkout www.rockstorephotos.com (//http://)
I figured it was ok to post, since there's a pic already up with the website on it.
You'll see some pics of some good riders, but mostly you'll see lots of Calamari.
I remember seeing one pic of a chopper/cruiser couple going around that corner wearing NO gear except for little cereal bowls as an excuse for helmets on their heads. She was lifting up her shirt to show off her, umm... "goods" [puke] as the were going by! I'm telling you, people are frickin' MORONS
[bacon]
Yeah... its hard for a lot of people to really understand the sheer volume of bikes there on a given weekend.. I know that one sunday last year mid summer they went thru 300 CASES of soda.
Really pretty insane to pull it at 2pm on a sunday and see 600 or so motorcycles in one general area!
Quote from: RetroSBK on May 03, 2010, 12:59:18 PM
Really pretty insane to pull it at 2pm on a sunday and see 600 or so motorcycles in one general area!
Pretty much why I will no longer visit the area on a weekend (unless I want my picture taken again...see avatar) I'm fortunate that my Fridays are either a short or no-work day for me, so I get my Monica's fix on that day. Really mellow crowd of old guys (like me!) hang out, tell tall tales, and ride. Just make sure you are off the roads by 3 so you dont have to deal with the commuters. Last Friday, Las Virgenes/Malibu Cyn Rd was like a two-lane parking lot!
Quote from: orangelion03 on May 03, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
Pretty much why I will no longer visit the area on a weekend (unless I want my picture taken again...see avatar) I'm fortunate that my Fridays are either a short or no-work day for me, so I get my Monica's fix on that day. Really mellow crowd of old guys (like me!) hang out, tell tall tales, and ride. Just make sure you are off the roads by 3 so you dont have to deal with the commuters. Last Friday, Las Virgenes/Malibu Cyn Rd was like a two-lane parking lot!
Yeah, but we found fun ways to avoid it...
Las Flores/Piuma/Scheuren/Saddle Peak/Fernwood Pacific/Old Topanga... [evil]
;D
[bacon]
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on May 03, 2010, 02:36:13 PM
Yeah, but we found fun ways to avoid it...
Las Flores/Piuma/Scheuren/Saddle Peak/Fernwood Pacific/Old Topanga... [evil]
;D
[bacon]
FO SHO!!!! Piuma is a really fun road I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT!!!
Last weekend we did Decker to mullholand, ate, then mullholland to cold creek to piuma, to schueren. down to topanga, then old topanga, up stunt, down scheuren to los flores, up pch to Decker, mullholland to pch, up to Yerba buena, and back down decker to westlake, then potero home. Nice lil ride!
Some of us simultaneously envy and hate you guys. Big time. [roll]
Checkout the SoCal board... Big ride on Sunday, come on out... I'm making bacon!
;)
[bacon]
Quote from: mac900 on May 04, 2010, 07:24:46 AM
Some of us simultaneously envy and hate you guys. Big time. [roll]
+1 [bang]
Quote from: mac900 on May 04, 2010, 07:24:46 AM
Some of us simultaneously envy and hate you guys. Big time. [roll]
What, Oahu doesn't have any nice roads? ;) [cheeky]
Quote from: arsenalfan on May 04, 2010, 08:42:17 AM
+1 [bang]
I made it from KC, MO to L.A. in less than 36 hours. Leave now, and you could EASILY be here by saturday... just say'n... [evil]
I'm with Bacon Junkie.
On weekends I'll only ride down there early in the am. I always get the vibe there's a lot of people heading to the Rockstore to be at the Rockstore. Looking for Jay, etc. As opposed to the righteous riding. It's the tuner wreckage that worries more than anything. I saw some bad accidents and some of those guys get way over the center line.
And then there's the LEO presence.
I took my cousin from Nor Cal down there and he was freaked. But he's spoiled. So close to great roads AND wineries
I prefer the ACH.
we're headed up the 33 on sunday [evil]
details on the socal board [moto]
[bacon]