I bought a GoPro Video Camera to video some rides .
After I got it I'm wondering if it will stay suctioned on top of my Helmet while riding or those who have successfully used one , where is or how is the best way to attach one for aggressive riding ?
Dolph :)
use the velcro mount ;)
Quote from: bobspapa on August 13, 2010, 09:12:33 PM
use the velcro mount ;)
OOOOOO KKKKK, but to where do I velcro it ?
Top of Helmet ?
Gas Tank ?
Dolph :)
zip tie it to the frame on the side
Quote from: Raux on August 13, 2010, 09:33:20 PM
zip tie it to the frame on the side
That sounds like a pretty good idea Jerry.
I'll see if that will work better than BP's suggestion.
Dolph :)
Strap mount on the chest (not moving much, as your head would)
Front fender (low down makes cool videos)
Seat cowl (either direction makes interesting images)
By the radiator (includes the fork action)
Just don't mount it on top of the tank, including the speedo, it might be used as evidence [bang] (has happened here)
Quote from: stopintime on August 13, 2010, 10:37:21 PM
Strap mount on the chest (not moving much, as your head would)
Front fender (low down makes cool videos)
Seat cowl (either direction makes interesting images)
By the radiator (includes the fork action)
Just don't mount it on top of the tank, including the speedo, it might be used as evidence [bang] (has happened here)
Thanks for that info. Lars, especially about the speedo.
Dolph :)
a Gopro lens does not rotate (AFAIK), so if you mount the camera in any position other than straight up, your images will be tilted. In Movie maker you can rotate your down loaded images but only 1/4 turns so most Gopro users mount the camera on the vertical or use the angle attachment..... and most do not trust the suction cup attachment on anything less than a really flat surface. playing with camera angles is fun so mount it anywhere you think the view would be cool.
I purchased a Drift camera just so I could rotate the lens.
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There is a special curved sticky plate for helmets and the suction cup sucks on monsters since theres very few places it will fit. (too much curvature on the helmet and msot parts of the tank. Alternative = keep it on the bike.
heres mine, its kinda jacked to the right cause i was trying to get the memory card out. but its very easy to access.
(http://kuixihe.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1026&g2_serialNumber=1)
(http://kuixihe.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1029&g2_serialNumber=1)
hmm i still have some tape from my previous trackday!!!
Get the gopro tripod 1/4 20 adapter and a manfrotto super clamp
(http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.teamworkphoto.com/images/manfrotto/035.jpg&sa=X&ei=0EFnTPKnBYGBlAeF_bygBQ&ved=0CAQQ8wc4AQ&usg=AFQjCNH3i22iPmx2I3B7_2kP8Ns7_ZNNCg)
I use these on rocket sleds at work, 200mph, no problems.
ok 200, big deal, what about 140? ;D
Quote from: Airborne on August 14, 2010, 04:31:38 PM
I use these on rocket sleds at work, 200mph, no problems.
i want to say the gopro guys (successfully) tested their suction cup mounts on indy cars in excess of 200mph.
Quote from: derby on August 14, 2010, 04:58:54 PM
i want to say the gopro guys (successfully) tested their suction cup mounts on indy cars in excess of 200mph.
Derby, do you know where or how they mounted it ?
Dolph :)
Quote from: He Man on August 14, 2010, 11:02:04 AM
There is a special curved sticky plate for helmets and the suction cup sucks on monsters since theres very few places it will fit. (too much curvature on the helmet and msot parts of the tank. Alternative = keep it on the bike.
heres mine, its kinda jacked to the right cause i was trying to get the memory card out. but its very easy to access.
(http://kuixihe.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1026&g2_serialNumber=1)
(http://kuixihe.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1029&g2_serialNumber=1)
hmm i still have some tape from my previous trackday!!!
He Man, that looks loke a good place to put it .
Dolph :)
I've seen some suggestions that a lanyard is a good idea just in case the mount comes loose.
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 14, 2010, 09:03:20 PM
I've seen some suggestions that a lanyard is a good idea just in case the mount comes loose.
Thats also a very good idea Dave.
Dolph :)
I wet the suction cup , put it on top of a Helmet last night , slid it around a bit and couldn't pull it off w, a good tug w, one hand.
Left it on and just tried pulling it off here at midnight my time and I still couldn't pull it off .?
Dolph :)
did you try putting a blow dryer on it to simulate the sun? you could possibly warm the water enough to get it to sudden break loose
"wet" isn't required to get a good stick w/ the suction cup, just a clean surface.
that said, i'm not sure i'd use the 'cup on a curved helmet surface.
I almost ran over a camera that popped off a helmet with the suction attachment during a race. Camera survived and the video was really cool, but who wants to look for their camera every time it pops off? I may have the link to the video somewhere....
I think this is the video...
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...cDDrive-by.flv (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...cDDrive-by.flv)
However, I can't view the link while at work.
link is broken/truncated...
Sorry... let's try it again....
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Tillertracker/?action=view¤t=McDDrive-by.flv (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Tillertracker/?action=view¤t=McDDrive-by.flv)
I used the flat mounting puck that came with my friends kit to mount the GoPro on the front of the bike under the headlights. Not sure if there is room with the standard round bucket. Just used the VHB tape to mount it to the plate that guides the front brake lines under the triple.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LxZ4Mi3rR3Q/TGJOc9818CI/AAAAAAAAh8Q/G7vvqfcPIxE/s1600/%5B000870%5D.jpg)
Whatever you do, zip-tie the housing to the bike. VHB tape is some serious ish, but anything can happen. Shot some great video:
Ducati Monster on the Tail of the Dragon (http://www.vimeo.com/14071188)
Quote from: ryandalling on August 16, 2010, 10:38:42 AM
Sorry... let's try it again....
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Tillertracker/?action=view¤t=McDDrive-by.flv (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Tillertracker/?action=view¤t=McDDrive-by.flv)
Haha sick, is that first bike that zips by you?
At 00:32 the guy on the green bike almost wrecks.
Quote from: bobspapa on August 14, 2010, 05:32:33 AM
a Gopro lens does not rotate (AFAIK), so if you mount the camera in any position other than straight up, your images will be tilted. In Movie maker you can rotate your down loaded images but only 1/4 turns so most Gopro users mount the camera on the vertical or use the angle attachment..... and most do not trust the suction cup attachment on anything less than a really flat surface. playing with camera angles is fun so mount it anywhere you think the view would be cool.
I purchased a Drift camera just so I could rotate the lens.
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Thanks Joel, Good to know.
Dolph :)
Quote from: He Man on August 16, 2010, 07:37:01 AM
did you try putting a blow dryer on it to simulate the sun? you could possibly warm the water enough to get it to sudden break loose
He Man I didn't try drying it , but I did try pulling on it again about 5pm Monday afternoon and it pulled loose finally.
I noticed there was a little moisture left so I reset it and tried to pull it off and it is stuck tight.
Dolph :)
Quote from: Veloce-Fino on August 16, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
Haha sick, is that first bike that zips by you?
At 00:32 the guy on the green bike almost wrecks.
The first bike after the camera stops spinning was me... lol... a corner worker ran out and grabbed it as soon as our group passed it... the guy that almost biffed it... came wide out of three and couldn't cut T4 without chopping through all of our lines... he was trying not t-bone us... which he made it clean... it was a fun race.
This Friday on a group ride to Deals Gap they realized that not all camera mounts are wheelie compatible. Just make sure your mount is secure and a tether might not be a bad idea.
JM
Which go pro is the hot ticket these days?
Wide angle HD?
Aren't there a bunch of different version go pros?
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 16, 2010, 03:23:40 PM
Which go pro is the hot ticket these days?
Wide angle HD?
Aren't there a bunch of different version go pros?
The wide angle HD is the way the go assuming you have a relatively new computer to be able to play it back. I have the older one in standard def and it doesnt even come close. I've had quite a few of these different cams and the gopro hd wide is the best I've owned so far. I still want to get a contourHD for getting helmet cam shots though.
Best place to buy an HD wd?
i heard many bad things about it and vibration on certain bikes for the contour.
If you wanted one thats really good for helmets, the drift camera is sick. it even has an LCD on the side to viw the video.
HD takes a lot of CPU power to watch and edit smoothly, and most people have slow uploads so HD is really not there yet as far as being able to share it like a regular video. but the gopro HD is sick! I would get it for the sole fact that it has a rechargeable battery. worth its weight in gold. standard NiMH on a high vibration motorcycle kills its power. i only get about 30-60 mins of recording time.
I got the Drift 170. I love it.
HD or standard?
I have Contour HD and GoPro HD wide angle. Here's the latest video I made (shot with those two.)
Monster tail chop video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBnleaYzhwo&feature=channel#normal)
Can you tell which cut was taken which one?
I personally prefer Contour HD, which I purchased first. Mostly because ease of use.
I got a Go-Pro several years ago when they were advertising in Sky Mall Magazine.
It looked cool, so I bought one.
I have been through a few since and now have the HD one as the quality is better and I like the re-chargeable battery function, but most importantly, it holds 32gb SD card, the biggest limiting factor of the older models.
Derby is correct. One was tested on an Indy Car, not sure if it was done by Go-Pro, but my best friend had one mounted on his car at Watkins Glen during practice. I guess one of his crew members had one and wanted to test how strong the suction cup was.
So, they tested it. Of course they safety-wired the entire assembly on in case it didn't hold, but the sucker did.
I will post the video of it tonight. It is pretty cool. It doesn't vibrate much at all and you can see the wind actually coming over the aerodynamic sections of the car. It was mounted on the left side, by the engine, so there is a TON of vibration.
It is an older model, so not the new HD one.
If you get a good mount with that suction cup...........it won't come off, but good advice was given:
use a lanyard or some sort of safety wiring; I do at all times, even when I use the helmet mount 3m brackets. I just don't want to lose a 200$ camera when it takes me 30 seconds to safety it up.
I was wrong about the track. This is mounted on my best friends Menard's car last year.
It was at barber where the video was taken:
This is a first generation Go-Pro mounted with the suction mount, safety wired in case of a malfunction that didn't happen.
From telemetry on the car, it was pulling 3-5 G-Forces during the lap.
Enjoy.
http://www.facebook.com/VisionRacing?ref=ts# (http://www.facebook.com/VisionRacing?ref=ts#)!/video/video.php?v=62611020973
NOTE: You have to copy and paste into your web browser to view. I am a fan of his team, Vision Racing, so not sure if you can view if you are not a fan.
It is worth the extra step if you have to become a fan to view it. It really shows a real life use of a go-pro camera on the suction mount and what it can really handle.
Well.... all psyched up early Monday am.
Got breakfast, got geared up, put the Go Pro on the top of my Helmet w, the mount and used the Suction cup plus put a string on the mount and tied it to my Jacket zipper.
Took off for the hills.
Got to a stretch of twisty road, stopped , took the camera out of it's plastic protective case , pushed the mode button, pushed the shutter button , the red light flashed to let me know that it was recording .
I gently put it back in the plastic case , and sped off.
I tore up that stretch of road like never before.
When I got to the end of that stretch I stopped and turned it off.
Then rode to the next very twisty stretch of 13 miles of great road.
I repeated the process and when that stretch was done I was near small town so decided to get gas.
I checked the camera at the gas Station and turned it off.
I then picked a way out of town that had a fairly open stretch although short, and ran the bike to 100 mph and the mount stayed put.
After supper I go to watch my great video ....nothing.
There is absolutely nothing recorded on the card.?
I did what the instructions said from the start process to the viewing process.
Dolph :(
check to see if it was set up to store what you did as a video or as a series of pics and, check to see if it's set to save to the card and not the internal memory. if its set to internal, you may have a limited set of stored stuff in the internal section. (assuming the camera had an internal/ card setting and storage area)
and or you may not have actually turned it on. my camera has to be turned on.... and then you hit the button again to have start recording. If you push the putton too long, it'll shut the camera off. I lost a video last week doing that (I was being followed by a Desmosidici the intire ride)
as a side note .... be carefull riding with a camera..... the urge to push it a lil more than normal for the cool shot can come back to bite you.
been there, done that.
What brand and size SD did you have in the camera?
Do you have an older model or the new HD one?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on August 24, 2010, 06:18:28 PM
been there, done that.
What brand and size SD did you have in the camera?
Do you have an older model or the new HD one?
It has a 2 SGB card.
I would say it is the original one.
Dolph :)
Quote from: bobspapa on August 24, 2010, 06:17:27 PM
check to see if it was set up to store what you did as a video or as a series of pics and, check to see if it's set to save to the card and not the internal memory. if its set to internal, you may have a limited set of stored stuff in the internal section. (assuming the camera had an internal/ card setting and storage area)
and or you may not have actually turned it on. my camera has to be turned on.... and then you hit the button again to have start recording. If you push the putton too long, it'll shut the camera off. I lost a video last week doing that (I was being followed by a Desmosidici the intire ride)
as a side note .... be carefull riding with a camera..... the urge to push it a lil more than normal for the cool shot can come back to bite you.
Hi Joel,
All I know about the settings on the Camera is that the Camera automatically defaults to video each time it's turned on.
Yeah, I know what you mean about trying pushing hard ...it felt real good and I don't think I was anywhere too near out of control.
Just a good thing no [leo] were ever spotted.
Dolph
Buttons pushed when you put it back into the case?
Quote from: DoubleEagle on August 24, 2010, 07:12:54 PM
It has a 2 SGB card.
I would say it is the original one.
Dolph :)
My original one would randomly just cut-off while riding at times.
It would be on my helmet and just shut off.
Battery would be fine, plenty of space on SD card, etc.
It was odd.
Ruined my lanesplitting across the Golden Gate in San Fran, the wild ride through the city, and my eventually smacking of a BMW's mirror with the bike I was ridings mirrow.
Ooops.
remember, on the original, if you go over the time the SD Card can hold, I believe it corrupts the whole file.
I think that is the case, it just doesn't "stop"
the technology on the first generation ones sucked.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on August 25, 2010, 02:38:25 AM
My original one would randomly just cut-off while riding at times.
It would be on my helmet and just shut off.
Battery would be fine, plenty of space on SD card, etc.
It was odd.
Ruined my lanesplitting across the Golden Gate in San Fran, the wild ride through the city, and my eventually smacking of a BMW's mirror with the bike I was ridings mirrow.
Ooops.
remember, on the original, if you go over the time the SD Card can hold, I believe it corrupts the whole file.
I think that is the case, it just doesn't "stop"
the technology on the first generation ones sucked.
Jud,
That sounds exactly like what probably happened.
Dolph
Quote from: stopintime on August 24, 2010, 10:11:24 PM
Buttons pushed when you put it back into the case?
As far as I know I didn't touch the buttons after activating the camera and gently putting it back in the clear plastic case Lars.
Dolph :)
Quote from: DoubleEagle on August 25, 2010, 06:57:37 PM
Jud,
That sounds exactly like what probably happened.
Dolph
The first generation was one screwy device.
It was odd how it worked. They finally did a firmware upgrade where it could hold an 8gb SD Card, but the same problem occurred.
I have no idea what happened with mine in SF
I had plenty of battery life; ther was plenty of room on the SD Card.........it just stopped working.
I really think you need a higherend SD Card to make it work perfectly.
I can use some 23gb online ebay buy and get corrup files or a 8gb PNY card and works perectly