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Kind of a baby Monster of sorts....I think this could amuse me for a few months

Anyone with FHE or SHE with these?

Not a chick magnet unless maybe your trawling Junior High Schools <laughing>


Sorry if its a derby

http://peirspeed.com/madass125.htm (http://peirspeed.com/madass125.htm)


2010 Sachs MadAss Scooter Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjQXxk875E4#normal)

I like it.... Gotta get some cigarettes, use the mad ass, gotta grab some milk and eggs for breakfast, grab the mad ass, seems useful for short quick city moving.

I'd rock it. To me, it'd be a toss up between that and a Honda Ruckus.

At 200+ lbs, I'd feel a little better about the MadAss having 125cc.

Buddy of mine has a 50cc Tomos Sprint with a 70-something cc "big bore" kit. It's a hoot, but still woefully underpowered.

Yup with gas in my area getting to 4 bucks a gallon and more this would be a fun way of erranding for the good weather months

I like the bucket of tuning parts and big bore kits available

not to mention whole 4 valve motor options that can be bolted up to it

I also like the larger wheels unlike the Vespa-type scooters

this could be one of those things I would have a blast with for a few months

and then during the winter I could scratch my head and wonder why I bought it in the first place

Meh.

It's neat and I like the moped geometry more than the scooter style, but when I'm looking for an errand runner I want internal storage, STUPID cheap 13" tires, and 100+mpg.

oh they have bolt-on racks and bags for them now...don't know about rim options...gas they are quoting at 85mpg but probably more like 70mpg

35 mpg if I got my hands on one  ;D

My bro has one. Haven't ridden it, probably won't even broach the subject......then he'll want to ride the Monster and that would scare the hell out of me.

The X-road is the one I've been eyeballing for local duty:

http://www.peirspeed.com/xroad.htm (http://www.peirspeed.com/xroad.htm)

(http://www.peirspeed.com/images/xroad005.jpg)

Neat, but sadly the 125cc means it's not classified as a "moped" which means in Denver / Boston / etc. you can't park it on the sidewalk, in bike racks, etc. without getting a ticket  :(

At which point, i'll eat the MPG and get a thruxton or bonneville for a bit more $, nice low stance for jumping on and off, and a bit more power  :)

Cheers,
Adam

I believe the 50cc version is either discontinued or no longer imported

so yup the moped class went out with that in many states

they had a nice 80cc upgrade top end for that one

I seem to recall these being a topic on TOB....

Dammit, now I want one again.  >:(

I was just talking to Mason down at Peirspeed and he said the pre-EPA sample X-road they played with does not have a good power to weight ratio...thinks it needs a 250 cc lump to do it justice

We have had them here in Oz for quite a while,
I looked at a used one approx six months old .......it looked six years, the metal quality is so poor
the bike was already corroded .

The fella selling it had assured me it was garaged its whole life  :o.
The forks were pitted quite badly it looked like the chrome was about to peel off
 and actually all the metal surfaces were in bad condition.

It is a funky urban cool German design but made in China and unfortunately not made well [puke].

I took it for a test ride and hated it , the ergos are really bad the seat is really high and very
uncomfortable the thing felt very unbalanced ,under braked under powered and did not like starting.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works for anyone considering on of these , IMO you would
be lucky to get two years out of it before you dropped it off at the dump.

I've got one: Matte Black 125

Quality: Made in China w/ cheapest materials available. Electrical is a PITA as connections corrode really easily and fail often. I'm having rust issues. But, I live at the beach and it's lightly covered when not in use. So, I can't necessarily blame manufacturer.

Ride: Weirder than a standard scooter. Very "leaned forward" on the seats and handlebars. I raised my handlebars to get a more level feel. I like that it's a manual transmission. I have no problem leaning into the corners and gunning it coming out. I can get the front wheel off the ground if I sit on the back of the seat and gun it. I'm 6'2 and 200#s. I have a 34" inseam. I don't really feel like a monkey make the beast with two backsing a football riding it. I do sit a bit further back on the seat that some of the pics in the ads. Technically, I could ride two up. But, at 200#s, I'm about at the power limit should I throw another 100#s on there.

Misc: It's gas tank is in the main frame and has a "reserve" switch on the side. There's a huge aftermarket base. Anything from bumping the engine up to regearing, and tons of racks available. Some saddlebag frames designed for between your legs. Rear and front rack are available. The speedometer is battery operated and reminds me of something you'd find on a bicycle.

FInal thoughts: Do I like riding it? Yeah - it can be fun. It's underpowered. Which for me, isn't necessarily a deal breaker (I ride a Monster 400, I'm used to going slow). It has a "wow, neat" factor that's fun around town. I've had no problems parking it on a sidewalk or anywhere else as it's often assumed as just a motorized bicycle. Especially if you pull the "125" stickers off the side. I've taken her on the boardwalk a couple of times. But, not when it's busy. I did try the freeway once and it was an interesting experience. I'd want the engine upgrade before I tried that again. Overall, it's fun around town. Fills a niche. As far as dressing for it, I'm not sure if I feel it's flip flops and brain bucket, AGATT or some blend between.

Knowing what I know now, I don't think I'd buy it again. I just don't get out of it what I truly wanted. Ohh well. Rat, wanna buy one? Less than 6 months old and slightly used. Get it off my porch for cheap.

What patch of the planet do you live on?.....A ton-up modified MA might just fit into my disturbed and disturbing vision of what needs to be set-right in the world


HIGH SPEED close up man's distorted face in g-force experime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh39NMLqY9w&feature=related#normal)

My brother had a Sachs Boondocker when we were kids.

For the $2700 price point, you're getting into smaller used dual-sport territory.  I even found a KLX250 with under 1,000 miles for $3K locally, so I'd be more likely to put my money there.

JM

I would never shell out that much for what I regard to be a toy...used would be my route...there is nothing rational about my wanting one...pure whim...but I have price limits on what I am willing to spend on a pure whim indulgence

the question would be whether I would want a 50 or a 125 to goose up...a 50 has the same frame geometry and motor mounts as the 125 evidently so it would accommodate something like this 4 valve:   http://fasttrails.com/Item271/Sachs_Madass_160cc_4_Valve_engine_Madass_Sachs_Engine_Performance_Madass.aspx (http://fasttrails.com/Item271/Sachs_Madass_160cc_4_Valve_engine_Madass_Sachs_Engine_Performance_Madass.aspx)

That would make my ton-up starting point only 25 mph shy of the desired mark....would need to figure out how to close the gap....gearing maybe, some sort of fairing, nitro <laughing>

A weeeeeee little tiny turbo.

I will initiate the web search this afternoon for such a device...it might be out there

It's called a leaf blower motor. I'm serious.

That's not a bad idea either. Talk about forced induction!  :o

Why didn't the factory think of this?  ;D

(http://www.heferito.com/image_folder/leafblower-sized.jpg)

Hmmm scaling down I am wondering if a hand held blow dryer could turn the trick

The leaf blower turbo idea is pretty interesting, but for an around town, high MPG grocery getter, I like this: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/596/home.aspx (http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/596/home.aspx)

waaaay too sensible!!

Not the way I would ride it.  [evil]

In VA you did not have to tag the 50cc when I got mine to run around locally and also use as a pit bike. Now you don't have to tag any of them anymore as long as you don't get caught doing over 35. Easily upgraded, and they now have better seats that bolt on, the early seats were literally a PITA. Biggest issue I have is all the safety crap makes warming up that little motor difficult. - Gene

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1105_leaf_blower_supercharger/index.html (http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1105_leaf_blower_supercharger/index.html)

I'd rather rock a Honda Ruckus:

(http://thefoxisblack.com/blogimages/woodgrain-ruckus.jpg)

It's all gravy until your two stroke oil soaked engine catches fire.

just yesterday one of the guys i work with almost talked me into getting a Puch Magnum. one of the few motorcycle looking mopeds, but then i realized that's money i throw into the duc. ohh well

I think I'm on the wrong coast for ya. I'm in San Diego.

Thats great...  Buy one of these and join that retarded moped gang in Virginia.

Stay away from these Chinese made vehicles.  There might be some good companies out there but its safe to say that 95% of these Chinese made bikes are made from shit materials and and assembled with blindfolds on.  I bought a few Chinese made ATV's for my kids.  For what I paid for them I wasn't expecting much and I knew that my kids would outgrow them real quick.  If you don't mind throwing them out in a year or two then its not a bad deal.  Buy a Ruckus if you want to zip around town.  Cheap and reliable.

put some clipons on it
straight pipe
rearsets

yeah..

True....not to go totally off-topic,,,,Is Dirty Dan's still open ....across the street from the Navy Yard?

I met an extraordinarily accomplished pole dancing woman there (many years ago.... mid-1980's)

who had near prehensile mammaries...amazing...

it was the only thing I remember about that night,

we started in Tijuana and were told to leave

so we wound up there