My band played a show last night at a bar right outside of Boston, we went on first at 9pm and were finished by 10. I always considered it rude to play your set + leave without seeing the other bands, so I stuck around + had a few beers. This exact night has happened countless times without incident, but I guess I had it coming sooner or later. :-\
[drink] [drink] [drink] 2 beers turned into 6 or 7, and I stupidly decided to drive home. [roll] I made a wrong turn onto a main street, tried to make a U-turn, and it was too wide. My car hit the curb + bent the rim/blew out the tire. The [leo] were there in seconds + immediately could tell that I had been drinking, so they took me in. The cop was actually a really nice guy + felt bad for me. He was just doing his job...
-To say I'm bummed out is an understatement. Crushed, humiliated, and horrified is more like it. I did some stupid things when I was younger (we all have) including various brushes with the law, but I now feel like I have "arrived" in life. I have an awesome job, an awesome aparment in the city, a beautiful girlfriend, and a beautiful bike I can't ride until further notice. Thinking about the possibility (probability) of losing the job and not being able to ride for a LONG TIME just puts me in an awful, awful place mentally.
I might even have to sell the bike to pay for legal fees + get another one down the road, we'll see. :-[ :'(
-I'm not looking for any sympathy at all. It's my own doing, and it is what it is. All I'm saying is to BE CAREFUL when driving after a few drinks. Even getting pulled over so a cop can give you a friendly heads up that your tail light is out can turn into a DUI. It can happen to ANYONE. Hopefully I can be an example to you guys as far as what the repercussions are for getting caught drinking and driving. I'll post up here as the book gets thrown at me... Just wanted to share my newest "life speedbump"... :-\
I'll be fine eventually, just give me a year or 2... :-\
-John
Sorry to hear about the position you wound up in.
Before my move to Japan I had done the same thing many times. Drove home after a night of drinking, not obliterated drunk but 5 beers or so over a 5 hour timeframe, never even thought about it.
Now here in Japan with the DUI level so much lower and the penalties so much higher I just take a cab. No matter what.
Good luck and at least nobody was hurt
Quote from: 55Spy on July 12, 2008, 03:55:13 PM
Now here in Japan with the DUI level so much lower and the penalties so much higher I just take a cab. No matter what.
Yeah, I wish that was my train of thought last night, but what's done is done I guess.
Quote from: 55Spy on July 12, 2008, 03:55:13 PM
Good luck and at least nobody was hurt
In retrospect it could have been a lot worse. I'm glad nobody else was involved as well. I'm desparately trying to spin this as a good thing; a wake-up call of sorts. Sh!t happens, right? Hopefully I'll be a better + more responsible person because of it. I can't promise that hooligan behavior on my Monster won't happen from time to time in the future though.. ;)
-That is if I'm not forced to part ways with it... :-\
Oh man!! I'm sure many most of us can identify with you. You start out with the best of intentions and then it all goes downhill from there. It's not a drunken party night or anything like that.....and you figure you can just sneak home .....no prob.....and then...... [leo]
Why are we such slow learners sometimes?
I doubt this is going to be pretty. ??? Not that I condone driving under the influence...but lawyer up...and good luck.
Sorry to hear about your incident.
How is your record? Driving record?
Get yourself an attorney.
Should cost you between 1500-2000$.
If you have a clean record, you will get a good deal from a plea with your attorney.
Be glad you just hit a curb and not a person.
Get a lawyer.
Do you guys have a "driving license for work only" type deal? ie - you can drive, but only to get to, and go home from work.
Z...
Sorry to hear...been there done that in my earlier years. The big difference is I was lucky enough to not get caught and managed not to have an accident. Like the others said, get a lawyer. Since it sounds like you learned your lesson, good luck!
Quote from: Zee on July 12, 2008, 06:52:30 PM
Do you guys have a "driving license for work only" type deal? ie - you can drive, but only to get to, and go home from work.
Z...
we have that here in Ohio.
they give you orange plates (i.e. party plates as they are called)
However, this doesn't help him in Boston
PM me poster, I might be able to help you with a local attorney, the company I work for is based in Boston, and I have a few connections there. Who knows, might get lucky.
Sorry to hear about this. Take responsibility for your actions and move forward. You risked not only your own life, but the lives of others.
Why not just make the conscious decision to NEVER drink and drive again? Not even after one beer. Then one beer will never turn into 6.
Then you will never have to go through this again. :-\
not sorry to hear this.
You made the decision to drive drunk-your choice no one elses.
No one should even consider drinking and driving.
No sympathy for you.
I am a heartless bastard but supposing you had hit someone and that someone was my wife and kids............You would not be safe anywhere on this planet.
Learn from this.
Quote from: squidwood on July 12, 2008, 07:09:05 PM
not sorry to hear this.
You made the decision to drive drunk-your choice no one elses.
No one should even consider drinking and driving.
No sympathy for you.
I am a heartless bastard but supposing you had hit someone and that someone was my wife and kids............You would not be safe anywhere on this planet.
Learn from this.
Ever had two beers and driven your car?
odds are if you got pulled over, you would blow over .08
cut him some slack
Everyone makes mistakes...we should be careful to throw stones...I am by no means justifing the actions, just that everyone makes them, and this one only hurt the accused.
Having said that...make sure to get an attorney and you should have no fears of losing your current job, even if it has a clearance involved.
Be safe and good luck.
I drive truck for a living.
If I blow 0.04 I am done.
On the Commercial Drivers Knowledge Test there are 10 questions out of 30 concerning Alcohol /drugs.
They know that you know that you should not do it.
I use my CDL to earn my living.
Quote from: squidwood on July 12, 2008, 07:22:08 PM
I drive truck for a living.
If I blow 0.04 I am done.
On the Commercial Drivers Knowledge Test there are 10 questions out of 30 concerning Alcohol /drugs.
They know that you know that you should not do it.
I use my CDL to earn my living.
+1
In NY if I get a DWI in my own car I lose my license for a year. (I have a CDL)
It is not worth two beers to jeopardize my livelyhood.
That is what cabs and DD's are for.
Johnster unfortunately put himself into this situation by drinking "6 or 7" beers. He blew over the limit and thus broke the law. The limit is there for a reason. We don't know if his driving was impaired. If it was, he was a danger to himself and others. He got lucky.
Cyrus, I feel that your analogy is too broad. It all depends on the person who's drinking and how long the two beers took to drink. You may or may not not blow over the limit. Like I said, the limit is there for a reason.
Bottom line, he drove drunk.
Johnster, just try to learn from the situation and be thankful you didn't hurt yourself or someone else.
I'm not trying say anything about you and your situation, please don't infer judgement. My second DUI probably saved my life. With the court and legal shit and the rest of my life taking a dump on me. It was finally enough to wake me up and get me sober. Again I'm not calling you an alcoholic, just relating my story and wanted to tell you that sometimes the best shit in your life is a result of the worst. Good luck, it sucks, but you'll make it.
BTW, in reference to the poster abovve me. Everyday, everytime I remember that shit I've pulled. Everytime I hear about a drunk driver that killed or hurt someone. I feel an empty pit in my stomache and I say a pray of thank you, becuase it coulda been me. I'm so thankful I got my shit together before that happened.
I have made plenty of mistakes in my life, and I have always faced the consequences of my actions.
I apologise for being short but in my line of work , spending so much time on the roads and seeing so many accidents that need not happen it just never surprises me any more what folks will do.
Here is a prime example..........last week I saw a 1983 or so Dodge weaving down the road.
Mom and dad drinking in the front seat, you know beer cans in brown paper sacks, budweiser cans on the floor etc and smoking and having a wee baby in the car seat in the back.
Hello 911 this is ...........and I want to report what I think is a drinking driver/open container.
Just be safe guys, the life you save maybe your own, thats all.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on July 12, 2008, 07:31:44 PM
I'm not trying say anything about you and your situation, please don't infer judgement. My second DUI probably saved my life. With the court and legal shit and the rest of my life taking a dump on me. It was finally enough to wake me up and get me sober. Again I'm not calling you an alcoholic, just relating my story and wanted to tell you that sometimes the best shit in your life is a result of the worst. Good luck, it sucks, but you'll make it.
BTW, in reference to the poster abovve me. Everyday, everytime I remember that shit I've pulled. Everytime I hear about a drunk driver that killed or hurt someone. I feel an empty pit in my stomache and I say a pray of thank you, becuase it coulda been me. I'm so thankful I got my shit together before that happened.
Congrats on your sobriety hon. Each day is a step in the right direction. I wish you all the best.
Sounds like you had a cheap lesson. Nobody hurt, no big accident, just some wounded pride, some $$$, and some inconvenience.
Good on you for manning-up and taking responsibility! [thumbsup]
Quote from: JBubble on July 12, 2008, 07:29:53 PM
Cyrus, I feel that your analogy is too broad. It all depends on the person who's drinking and how long the two beers took to drink. You may or may not not blow over the limit. Like I said, the limit is there for a reason.
I don't think my analogy is too broad at all.
Why do you think all states now have .08 blood alcohol levels?
Because that is what the federal government wants.
So, if states don't adopt that limit, then the Feds have said they will stop all federal roadway funding until they do.
Strong arm man.
It happens. it is the truth.
I am not defending the decision that the poster made.
but I can say the majority of us have driven under conditions where we would be considered legally intoxicated.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 12, 2008, 07:51:03 PM
but I can say the majority of us have driven under conditions where we would be considered legally intoxicated.
But how do you know this? You don't know how many of us drink, you don't know at what rate we drink, and you don't know how each of us is affected by alcohol.
I was a pedestrian for 6 months....
it was a cold make the beast with two backsing winter...
they won't even let you drive home from the court house in NH.
All of us have done some wrong doings in our past, I myself have been to jail on some pretty harsh charges. I have since changed my lifestyle and I am happier than ever before. Just do what you need to do and things will get better. Live and learn. And yes be glad you did not hurt anyone or yourself. Good luck and take care
Sorry John. Glad you got your "wake up call" without anybody getting hurt.
Quote from: JBubble on July 12, 2008, 07:41:12 PM
Congrats on your sobriety hon. Each day is a step in the right direction. I wish you all the best.
Thanks, it's been four years yesterday.
Quote from: JBubble on July 12, 2008, 07:03:44 PM
Why not just make the conscious decision to NEVER drink and drive again? Not even after one beer. Then one beer will never turn into 6.
Consider it done.
Quote from: squidwood on July 12, 2008, 07:34:27 PM
I apologise for being short but in my line of work , spending so much time on the roads and seeing so many accidents that need not happen it just never surprises me any more what folks will do.
And normally I like to think of myself as pretty responsible. I NEVER get on the bike after even one beer. I don't blame you for thinking this, as there's ben plenty of this [bang] and this :'( going on today.. People do stupid things, as you can see...
Quote from: 695LAM on July 12, 2008, 08:00:23 PM
All of us have done some wrong doings in our past, I myself have been to jail on some pretty harsh charges. I have since changed my lifestyle and I am happier than ever before. Just do what you need to do and things will get better. Live and learn. And yes be glad you did not hurt anyone or yourself. Good luck and take care
Thanks, I really do apreciate it as I'm feeling especially deflated right now. Like I said, I'm not looking for sympathy, I did it to myself and I'm going to roll with the punches, whatever they are. Obviously I still appreciate it though. I like to think I'm a good person, but hey.....good people screw up too I guess.. :-\
Quote from: JBubble on July 12, 2008, 07:29:53 PM
Johnster unfortunately put himself into this situation by drinking "6 or 7" beers. He blew over the limit and thus broke the law. The limit is there for a reason. We don't know if his driving was impaired. If it was, he was a danger to himself and others. He got lucky.
Bottom line, he drove drunk.
Sure did. :-[
And I am HUGELY thankful that it was a 1-person incident, believe me. I don't know if I could live w/myself having harmed an innocent person while drunk...
Quote from: msincredible on July 12, 2008, 09:02:05 PM
Sorry John. Glad you got your "wake up call" without anybody getting hurt.
Thanks Paula, and that's exactly how I'm trying to view it. I'll let you know how I make out. I really hope I can hang on to my beloved S4, as I don't have too much $$ saved right now... I'm sure she won't mind a year of garage time..
You will be fine, as already said get a lawyer. If you have a clean record it won't be too bad.
My "incident" was worse :-[
Quote from: Pakhan on July 12, 2008, 09:44:19 PM
You will be fine, as already said get a lawyer. If you have a clean record it won't be too bad.
My "incident" was worse :-[
I won't ask, but glad you got through yours too.
I decided that $2k of my saved money will go towards a lawyer. Beyond that money wise is when it should start getting interesting. :-\
UUUUGGGGGHHHH [bang] [bang] [bang]
I really didn't need this, but you know what?? I probably did...
Quote from: johnster on July 12, 2008, 09:57:40 PM
I decided that $2k of my saved money will go towards a lawyer. Beyond that money wise is when it should start getting interesting. :-\
Some companies provide legal advice / support (confidential) as a benefit to employees, it might be worth checking to see if yours does.
Quote from: msincredible on July 12, 2008, 10:00:29 PM
Some companies provide legal advice / support (confidential) as a benefit to employees, it might be worth checking to see if yours does.
It does, which is nice. And honestly I have people in high places job-wise (My dad actually works at my company + has been there for decades), so I'm hoping that I'll be able to work something out.
It's just funny, how you never think it'll happen to you, then BOOM... [roll]
Don't Don't Don't sell your bike. You will be sorry. First time offender with a clean record. Unless it's mandatory (and in Mass it might be) you wont lose your liscence for the whole year. You may qualify for a diversion program and if your a good boy for a year it's like it never happened.
Did I mention this...DON"T SELL YOUR BIKE!!!!!!!
Good luck with your situation. :-\
Perhaps joining AA *right now* would get you some mileage, but talk to a lawyer first.
It sounds like your rather lucky actually.
It could have been far worse and Like others have said its a wake up call.
I wish you the best through these hard times.
one word of advice in selecting an attorney (from an attorney)
find someone through AA or a similar substance group. you want someone who is a bit sympathetic to you, not just trying to get a deal.
this is your first offence? most states have a diversion program for first offenders, but you'll have to jump through hoops to get it. some places are harsher than others (i.e. NY).
find a sympathetic attorney and figure out a deal you can offer the prosecutor. they like slamming drunks, but you hit a curb, not a person. plenty of people can't avoid doing that when they are cold sober. you're not the posterboy for drunk driving enforcement.
Quote from: JBubble on July 12, 2008, 07:53:33 PM
But how do you know this? You don't know how many of us drink, you don't know at what rate we drink, and you don't know how each of us is affected by alcohol.
i believe his point was more that with the limit at .08, it's stupidly easy to blow over with a beer or two (or three).
the rate at which you're
affected by alcohol doesn't figure at all into your BAC.
Quote from: derby on July 13, 2008, 06:16:07 AM
i believe his point was more that with the limit at .08, it's stupidly easy to blow over with a beer or two (or three).
the rate at which you're affected by alcohol doesn't figure at all into your BAC.
ding ding ding
we have a winner
Not to sidetrack this subject, but this brings up the perfect issue of drunk driving being a possible transportation issue.
People say take a cab, , have a sober driver, or get a motel (if you live too far from the bar, 30 or 60 miles where a cab will not service). Sometimes especially for someone who does not make a good living, such as myself, a cab is too expensive( not in comparison to a dui charge though).
I have walked home from the bar instead of driving, the furthest was about 4 miles from home.
Also, one night I left the monster overnight in a parking lot instead of riding it home drunk. I got a ride from a sober driver. The monster got trashed in the parking lot by some kids.
My point is, some sort of discounted cab fair or other transport ought to be created to allow bars to receive business from drinkers while allowing the drinkers to get home safely and the others not drinking to use roadways safely. Drunk driving is a problem in the U.S. It's a transportation problem, not a drinking problem.
If it's a drinking problem then a solution would be to not serve alcohol at bars or restarants.
Or only serve those who are driving up to two beers, but you must take a breathalizer to make sure they haven't had any to drink before that.
Or install dui machines on every vehicle made to make sure no one is driving impaired.
It seems their must be some solution to this problem, but lawmakers have not solved it and may not want to solve this issue.
Note: I am not against alcohol in any way, with all the bright lawmakers out their a transportatiion solution can be plausible for this problem of drinking and driving.
Quote from: madmax178 on July 13, 2008, 07:44:59 AM
My point is, some sort of discounted cab fair or other transport ought to be created to allow bars to receive business from drinkers while allowing the drinkers to get home safely and the others not drinking to use roadways safely. Drunk driving is a problem in the U.S. It's a transportation problem, not a drinking problem.
If it's a drinking problem then bars will not stay in business.
This exists in some areas, but it's usually associated with a private group and not a government entity. However, you'd still have the issue with leaving your Duc at the bar while you get a ride. I live in a relatively rural area now, and I feel like more people drink and drive around here because there aren't cabs. I don't think there needs to be a discount cab company just for people who are too drunk to drive. Factor the price of a cab into the expense of a night out drinking. Can't afford a cab? Then you can't afford to go out and get drunk. Stay home, invite some friends over, viola no one needs a cab.
Quote from: madmax178 on July 13, 2008, 07:44:59 AM
It seems their must be some solution to this problem, but lawmakers have not solved it and may not want to solve this issue.
DUI convictions are large source of revenue for local municipalities and the state.
In Ohio you pay all your fines, etc.
Don't worry, the BMV gets their cut at the end when you get your license back.
Make that 1,500$ check payable to the Secretary of State.
Quote from: Kyna on July 13, 2008, 08:02:14 AM
I don't think there needs to be a discount cab company just for people who are too drunk to drive. Factor the price of a cab into the expense of a night out drinking. Can't afford a cab? Then you can't afford to go out and get drunk. Stay home, invite some friends over, viola no one needs a cab.
Basically. I'm a well known local lush. I've been drinking too much to drive for years. Never once got behind that wheel. Always had a DD beforehand (typically I'd pay for a meal for them, and they'd drop me off and pick me up or some such). I'd agree that cabs are expensive. This is why we have friends.
Often Saturday mornings would find me hiking a few miles back to my car. Not so bad, really.
I have yet to go to a bar and not have a bartender be willing to ask if anyone was going my way, I shouldn't be on the road.
I did always hate that the places I lived in that actually
had public transportation had it typically shut down at around midnight, when i needed a ride at 2.
Here is an example of a new approach to the issue:
http://www.callzingo.com/
You call up, someone shows up on a folding scooter or bicycle, throws it in your trunk, drives you home, then rides home. That way you don't have the hassle of figuring out how to go back and get your car the next day.
Maybe I could do it as a side business on my folding bike when I am on my business trips... 8)
Quote from: msincredible on July 13, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
Here is an example of a new approach to the issue:
http://www.callzingo.com/
You call up, someone shows up on a folding scooter or bicycle, throws it in your trunk, drives you home, then rides home. That way you don't have the hassle of figuring out how to go back and get your car the next day.
Maybe I could do it as a side business on my folding bike when I am on my business trips... 8)
I can't see having a number you can call when you're drunk to have a hot chick in spandex/leather show up
not being popular.
My Mom wants to start this in her local town.
Quote from: msincredible on July 13, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
Here is an example of a new approach to the issue:
http://www.callzingo.com/
I went to grade school with a guy that started this at Univ of Colorado Boulder back in the late 90's.
I like the concept, but aren't their limitations as to how far they will drive you home?
Not to mention the price, 20$ pick up + 3$ a mile??
I am thinking a cab is cheaper
Yeah but for some people it's not the cost so much as having your car at home.
Here's another idea for next time you're at the bar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvcNtRfH22c
[thumbsup] [laugh]
a program now is a huge help for your chances in court. The wakeup call should be your accident, not the fact that you will see a judge. Judge's don't like when you started a program the week before your Court date. Your lawyer will be happy to say you went on your own without him/her suggesting it.
Good luck with everything.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 13, 2008, 08:07:04 AM
DUI convictions are large source of revenue for local municipalities and the state.
In Ohio you pay all your fines, etc.
Don't worry, the BMV gets their cut at the end when you get your license back.
Make that 1,500$ check payable to the Secretary of State.
ding ding ding....
another winner.
Quote from: ducpainter on July 13, 2008, 05:55:13 PM
ding ding ding....
another winner.
[thumbsup]
I knew I wasn't an idiot afterall.
I just love, how in the state of ohio, the BMV/secretary of state takes that last jab at you.
Not even a fee associated with the fine sanctioned by the court, it is that extra added fee they throw at you.
Such bullshit.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 13, 2008, 07:30:10 PM
[thumbsup]
I knew I wasn't an idiot afterall.
why do you think that exonerates you from being an idiot?
[laugh]
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 14, 2008, 11:12:49 AM
why do you think that exonerates you from being an idiot?
Why you gotta keep calling me at work?
Most of us have jobs.........
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 11:28:24 AM
Why you gotta keep calling me at work?
Most of us have jobs.........
returning your call, you pansy.
not my problem if you're a wage slave.
get a home office like me. [wine]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 11:28:24 AM
Why you gotta keep calling me at work?
Most of us have jobs.........
...looking for legal advice? ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on July 14, 2008, 12:50:17 PM
...looking for legal advice? ;D
Nope.
I already paid my lawyer and my fine.
Note to others:
Don't get a ticket for 98 in a 65 in Ohio. You will get a mandatory court date.
Glad that you got out easy... Sorry, not being facetious, but on the same day a kid in my town, under aged, drove drunk and into a pole. He died on the spot because he didn't have his seatbelt on. Its really bothers me because like others have mentioned, we've all drove home a bit intoxicated at times. I've decided especially now that I ride a bike to never ride or drive after having had a few. Its strange, I feel like my need to be more responsible went up a couple of notches now that I ride. Good luck and hope everything works out. V
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
Nope.
I already paid my lawyer and my fine.
Note to others:
Don't get a ticket for 98 in a 65 in Ohio. You will get a mandatory court date.
wasn't talking about you. ;)
Quote from: FlyADuc on July 14, 2008, 05:07:45 PM
Glad that you got out easy... Sorry, not being facetious, but on the same day a kid in my town, under aged, drove drunk and into a pole. He died on the spot because he didn't have his seatbelt on. Its really bothers me because like others have mentioned, we've all drove home a bit intoxicated at times. I've decided especially now that I ride a bike to never ride or drive after having had a few. Its strange, I feel like my need to be more responsible went up a couple of notches now that I ride. Good luck and hope everything works out. V
Talk about taking it up a couple notches.... try havin' a kid.
No doubt a stupid thing to do. You learned from it, nobody was hurt, and you got off extremely lucky.
That being said, if you have a myspace or facebook page with photos of you drinking and partying it up, take them off the site Sometimes those types of pictures will be used against you and that can be very bad. I was just reading about that the other day. There have been cases of people getting jail time after the judge sees pictures like that when otherwise they might have only been fined and/or been made to do public service. Do yourself a favor and get rid of anything like that on the net.
Celeste
Quote from: someguy on July 13, 2008, 10:38:01 AM
I can't see having a number you can call when you're drunk to have a hot chick in spandex/leather show up not being popular.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on July 13, 2008, 11:06:20 AM
My Mom wants to start this in her local town.
Does your Mom have a leather and spandex suit? Is she hot?
I'm glad nobody else is going to have to pay the price of your choice. I had a high school classmate who was in a similar situation, but instead of playing your part, his car played the part of the curb you hit. Well, almost. Driver was in a band and was coming home from a show. He didn't think he really had that much. He tried to cut the yellow too close and by the time he was in the intersection, my friend had already entered from his direction, since my friend's light had already turned green. One T-bone later, and he had rods in both femurs and was in a wheelchair for the rest of the school year. He was an avid skier, but he had to hang up his passion, because if he broke either leg again, they'd have to amputate it.
Recently in my area now, a high school girl was driving home from a tailgate party. She hadn't had that much, but she ended up killing a woman who was on her way home from her church choir practice. She thought she was okay to drive. I guess she wasn't.
The point is that you shouldn't be careful driving home if you've had a few. You just shouldn't drive. If you were afraid to leave your car in a spot overnight, why did you park it there at all to begin with? Sure, you might not lose your job if you get a DUI, but you could tear a family apart. People die because of choices like this. Is it worth it?
i like to get tanked and hit the twisties with my gixxer riding buddies.
Quote from: motogpfan on July 25, 2008, 09:54:17 AM
i like to get tanked and hit the twisties with my gixxer riding buddies.
[laugh]
Sorry to hear about your situation. Best advice is to get a good attorney. The initial expense is a pretty big hit ($2000 or more). But keep in mind, the better your attorney is the more likely you are to get a reduced charge (may even be able to get a plea bargain of some sort) and the less your insurance will go up. And it's the high-risk insurance that really nails you.
Quote from: motogpfan on July 25, 2008, 09:54:17 AM
i like to get tanked and hit the twisties with my gixxer riding buddies.
I do the same.... only at night
Quote from: motogpfan on July 25, 2008, 09:54:17 AM
i like to get tanked and hit the twisties with my gixxer riding buddies.
Quote from: bobspapa on July 25, 2008, 12:28:08 PM
I do the same.... only at night
on my Turbo Busa
Quote from: Vindingo on July 25, 2008, 01:08:57 PM
on my Turbo Busa
Stretch it, bro...it's tyyyyy-eeeght
Quote from: Vindingo on July 25, 2008, 01:08:57 PM
on my Turbo Busa
With my wife beater, flip flops, and shorts on.
bawahahahahaha
I was wondering if you guys remembered that.
Quote from: motogpfan on July 25, 2008, 02:26:17 PM
bawahahahahaha
I was wondering if you guys remembered that.
Remember? Dude, that's me every weekend. Seriously.
Quote from: Sinister on July 25, 2008, 02:34:57 PM
Remember? Dude, that's me every weekend. Seriously.
yeah but you have Jedi powers.
Well, there's that.
dweebs.... ;D