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« Reply #90 on: March 11, 2009, 01:34:08 AM »

So, with the baffles in how much louder is it than stock, generally?
a teenie weinie bit louder
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« Reply #91 on: March 11, 2009, 08:05:53 AM »

I don't have a 696, but of the different exhausts I saw in this tread, I like the Laser shorties from the first post the best. i am not a big fan of the routing of the standard bike or the location of the mufflers.

My 0.2 cents.

i've looked at some options.
one is to make the exhaust go horizontal, parallel with the road at the connection point. the concern is the chainguard and brake caliper hitting them. it really opens up the tail and with a short tail... very unique. also i would have to brace them on the rear set.

the other is similar to the Indy modified 696/996. but with more complete packaged look to it.

anything else requires new headers.
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« Reply #92 on: March 11, 2009, 04:58:51 PM »

Hi "Sleeper".  Sorry, just want to clarify your response and if you were kidding or not.  Thanks much.
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« Reply #93 on: March 11, 2009, 05:40:20 PM »

Hi "Sleeper".  Sorry, just want to clarify your response and if you were kidding or not.  Thanks much.
I don't know about the 696 but on my S4RS without the baffles the bike was seriously loud, I put the bafflels in so as not to irritate the neighbors now it's too quiet just a little bit louder than stock, nicer tone but barely louder. Then my neighbor bought a speed boat, when he brings it back from a day on the ocean he runs it in his driveway to "clean the salt water" from the cooling system, the thing has an uncorked V8 in it. Shakes my entire house. So the baffles are coming back out
 
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« Reply #94 on: March 11, 2009, 11:39:47 PM »

Hi "Sleeper".  Sorry, just want to clarify your response and if you were kidding or not.  Thanks much.
Grin Yes, it is a wee bit louder with a deeper tone than stock. This is true on most aftermarket pipes with baffle. Well hey, if you won't be happy with both baffles in or both out then just leave one in and you'll be happy.
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« Reply #95 on: March 12, 2009, 10:21:05 AM »

FWIW- I took ownership of my 696 back in early September 08'.
I just hit 6000 miles on the odometer, so I have a pretty good feel
for the stock pipes. I have been procrastinating on swapping pipes
(Termi's/Arrows)
since day one because I will be putting on a bunch of miles
in a short time period and i will not not get the money back on resale.
Also the rumor of only "minor" performance gains with the swap. As a bonus
I like the look and sound of the stockers. I get many compliments on
them actually. Where am I going with this you ask? I just happened to
stop bye my Duc dealer in Ft Lauderdale and bumped into a fellow 696'er
in the parking lot. We were checking out each others mods and I asked
him about his Termi's. He said "see for yourself" and let me take his for
a short ride down the street bacon. I don't think I broke 40mph, but I was sold
in the first 10 feet. Big difference in off the line power, how much... don't
know, but it was VERY noticeable and the sound... dear god it was beautiful.
Thank you again if you happen to be a fellow member. That was very cool
of you to let me do that. While I can not speak for the many iterations of
slip-ons on the market; I can say the extra $200-$300 for the termi's
(which gets you a new ECU and air filter in the process) is now for me a
NO BRAINER when I finally do it.

Hope this helps someone.
 
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« Reply #96 on: March 12, 2009, 10:52:31 AM »

FWIW- I took ownership of my 696 back in early September 08'.
I just hit 6000 miles on the odometer, so I have a pretty good feel
for the stock pipes. I have been procrastinating on swapping pipes
(Termi's/Arrows)
since day one because I will be putting on a bunch of miles
in a short time period and i will not not get the money back on resale.
Also the rumor of only "minor" performance gains with the swap. As a bonus
I like the look and sound of the stockers. I get many compliments on
them actually. Where am I going with this you ask? I just happened to
stop bye my Duc dealer in Ft Lauderdale and bumped into a fellow 696'er
in the parking lot. We were checking out each others mods and I asked
him about his Termi's. He said "see for yourself" and let me take his for
a short ride down the street bacon. I don't think I broke 40mph, but I was sold
in the first 10 feet. Big difference in off the line power, how much... don't
know, but it was VERY noticeable and the sound... dear god it was beautiful.
Thank you again if you happen to be a fellow member. That was very cool
of you to let me do that. While I can not speak for the many iterations of
slip-ons on the market; I can say the extra $200-$300 for the termi's
(which gets you a new ECU and air filter in the process) is now for me a
NO BRAINER when I finally do it.

Hope this helps someone.
 

Were the pipes the only mods that would have affected his bike's performance? Was the gearing the same on both of the bikes? He didn't have a 14t front sprocket while you had the stock 15t or something? Just wondering because if the performance increase is noticeable, then termis may go back on my list of mods-to-do.
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« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2009, 05:53:30 PM »

Were the pipes the only mods that would have affected his bike's performance? Was the gearing the same on both of the bikes? He didn't have a 14t front sprocket while you had the stock 15t or something? Just wondering because if the performance increase is noticeable, then termis may go back on my list of mods-to-do.

Good question, but I did not think to ask, nor did he bring it up.
I will ask the girl in the service department; I know she will remember
the guy. Once I find out I will let you know.
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« Reply #98 on: March 12, 2009, 09:50:32 PM »

i noticed a big difference below 40 just by switching from the 15t to the 14t with no other mods.

BUT i also noticed a difference between teh stock and the termi on another bike i rode with no other changes.

so they both give a difference.

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« Reply #99 on: March 13, 2009, 09:18:17 PM »

Update Leo Vince:


This exhaust looks amazing. Does anyone have this and can post review/pictures?
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« Reply #100 on: March 14, 2009, 12:02:57 AM »

ok did the official measuring of the new Roads Italia CF pipes yesterday.

idle w/baffles 81db
idle wo/balles 84 db
4k w/baffles 94 db
4k wo/baffles 97 db

didn't get stock. and not for certain i did the measuring at the appropriate distance/angle but it does give a comparison on the baffles vs no baffles.

BUT now i need to chop them 10cm.
the pipes were made for the stock tail, i have the R&G tail and the pipes cover the turn signals. so i am taking off 10cm to lower them. i may see a db or more with that much loss of material.

and pics. sorry pipes are at the chopshop.

and as far the juice box and BMC filter i was ordering....  bang head order never got placed by the company, money was spent on Paris trip. long story short, will have to wait a bit for the other end of the system.
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« Reply #101 on: March 14, 2009, 08:29:09 AM »

So, with the baffles in how much louder is it than stock, generally?

this week i am recording the stock vs Carbon termis with an actual sound recording device, not a digital camera. Ill post it on a youtube video, and here, hopefully it will give an indication (better than what has been shown at least)

i did hear the carbons and stainless are not street legal, but ive heard in michigan, if they aren't too loud (i am taking baffles out Grin) your not going to be bothered.
 
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« Reply #102 on: March 14, 2009, 08:30:21 AM »

I don't know about the 696 but on my S4RS without the baffles the bike was seriously loud, I put the bafflels in so as not to irritate the neighbors now it's too quiet just a little bit louder than stock, nicer tone but barely louder. Then my neighbor bought a speed boat, when he brings it back from a day on the ocean he runs it in his driveway to "clean the salt water" from the cooling system, the thing has an uncorked V8 in it. Shakes my entire house. So the baffles are coming back out
 

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« Reply #103 on: March 14, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »

..... just happened to stop bye my Duc dealer in Ft Lauderdale and bumped into a fellow 696'er in the parking lot. We were checking out each others mods and I asked him about his Termi's. He said "see for yourself" and let me take his for a short ride down the street. I don't think I broke 40mph, but I was sold in the first 10 feet. Big difference in off the line power, how much... don't know, but it was VERY noticeable and the sound... dear god it was beautiful.....

Interesting.  Coz here's my observations FWIW.... 

Got my 696 all shiny new in November 08.  At 1000kms service (600 miles guys, c'mon) I had the standard 15t front sprocket replaced with 14 toother and noticed much improved off-the-line acceleration (as you'd expect from lowered gearing).
At 3000kms had CF Termis fitted and noticed absolutely no performance gain at all.  Nothing.  Disappointed?  Well, a little disappointed if I'm honest.  But there is compensation: The sound alone is worth the cost of entry......  the back-crackle you get on the over-run makes grown men weep.....   Sooooo.... if you just wanna little more zing from a standing start, grab yourself a bargain and fit the smaller front sprocket. But if you wanna sound like Thor-Is-Angry on Judgement Day then you're gonna need to spend lots more.  IMO both mods are worth the cost of admission.
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« Reply #104 on: March 14, 2009, 09:46:45 PM »

Interesting.  Coz here's my observations FWIW.... 

Got my 696 all shiny new in November 08.  At 1000kms service (600 miles guys, c'mon) I had the standard 15t front sprocket replaced with 14 toother and noticed much improved off-the-line acceleration (as you'd expect from lowered gearing).
At 3000kms had CF Termis fitted and noticed absolutely no performance gain at all.  Nothing.  Disappointed?  Well, a little disappointed if I'm honest.  But there is compensation: The sound alone is worth the cost of entry......  the back-crackle you get on the over-run makes grown men weep.....   Sooooo.... if you just wanna little more zing from a standing start, grab yourself a bargain and fit the smaller front sprocket. But if you wanna sound like Thor-Is-Angry on Judgement Day then you're gonna need to spend lots more.  IMO both mods are worth the cost of admission.


Ah well. Guess that saves me some money. I would like louder exhaust, but I don't want to piss of neighbors since I return home at night when everyone's asleep. We have enough punk kids with their loud music and loud exhaust around here. I do have a loud truck with subs and magnaflows but I only drive it during the day. Replacing the truck with a 68 Camero which will have stock-loudness exhaust.
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