Please, Thank you, and Yes Ma'am.....

Started by Monstermash, November 17, 2008, 09:15:06 AM

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Monstermash

I know many of you that live in other parts of the country other than the New England/New York area may not have a clue what I'm talking about but I have a litte rant I would like to go on so if you could please indulge me for a few moments I would appreciate it.

What the make the beast with two backs is going on with people these days? Why does everyone have to be so disrespectful/hateful to one another.

I'm not referring to any one specific instance here, nor am I calling out anyone here, but just a general WTF to everyone.

Do you remember 9-11? I do, and although it was one of the worst tragedies to ever hit our country it did do one good thing. For about a week after the incident people were actually nice to one another. They would stop traffic to allow another vehicle to enter. They would look behind them as they walked into a building and hold the door if someone was behind them. They would smile at each other. They would say hello to perfect strangers.

I try to do everything I mentioned above along with saying please, thank you, and yes/no ma'am and generally just try and be respectfull to my fellow human beings. Honestly I am getting pretty sick of the way people treat one another. The rudeness and overall piss poor attitude in this country is embarrassing. I mean really, how hard is it to say thank you if someone holds the door for you. And for that matter, how hard is it for you to hold the door for someone else? Is it really that hard to stop texting while your driving and put the make the beast with two backsing phone down so you don't kill someone? Is it really that hard to use a make the beast with two backsing turn signal? Is it really that hard to look before you change lanes? Do you really need to be a make the beast with two backsing asshole and flip me off after YOU cut me off and I honked at you to wake you the make the beast with two backs up so you don't run into the side of my make the beast with two backsing car?

Is it hard to walk a little faster (rather than slowing down) when someone is nice enough to stop and let you cross the street. Is it too hard to let the person behind you in the checkout lane go before you when they only have 1 or 2 items and you have 20? Is it really that hard to put your cigarette out in your ashtray rather than just throwing it out the window and hitting the guy on the motorcycle behind you? Is it really that hard to throw your trash into a garbage bin rather than throwing it out your car window?

I could go on and on but I think you get the picture.

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r_ciao

One of my pet peeves is when you are having a conversation with someone and their cell rings.  They take the call and you instantly become "invisible".  This is particularly annoying at restaurants and it's just the two of you, so when the other person is chatting away on their cell in a restaurant, you are left to entertain yourself while they ramble on.

This is just one of many.  Don't get me started.
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El Matador

I was in for a big shock when I moved to the states. I'm used to opening doors for any girl, regardless of looks or weight or relation to her, I'm used to offering to carry heavy books and stuff for them, greeting with a kiss, or pulling and pushing the chair under them when they sit.

Well, people looked at me like I had just raped their grandma whenever I was as courteous as I was always taught to be.  And this is texas, probably the most courteous place in the states.

TiNi

some people get it and some don't mash...

i just try to treat everyone like i would like to be treated  :)

toaster

Quote from: r_ciao on November 17, 2008, 09:34:15 AM
One of my pet peeves is when you are having a conversation with someone and their cell rings.  They take the call and you instantly become "invisible".  This is particularly annoying at restaurants and it's just the two of you, so when the other person is chatting away on their cell in a restaurant, you are left to entertain yourself while they ramble on.

This is just one of many.  Don't get me started.

my woman tends to do that alot.  she is always playing phone tag with her parents and best friend (that she sees maybe 2 times a year) and for some odd reason, that is the ONLY time they ever call back.  i tell her to hurry up but i have sat down at a restaurant, ordered food for me and her and shes still on the phone when the food shows up.  if my phone rings i will answer it and be off in less than a minute.

r_ciao

Quote from: DuCaTiNi on November 17, 2008, 09:43:31 AM
some people get it and some don't mash...

i just try to treat everyone like i would like to be treated  :)


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tonyj311

Quote from: Monstermash on November 17, 2008, 09:15:06 AM
Is it really that hard to throw your trash into a garbage bin rather than throwing it out your car window?

That line reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Homer had to go to a parenting class. Trash goes in trash bins, got it!

I still hold the door for people- generally without a thanks, but I say your welcome anyway. I guess that makes me an a-hole. Same for when I slow down to let someone move into my lane. A little wave would be nice.
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Kopfjäger

Quote from: El Matador on November 17, 2008, 09:42:18 AMI'm used to opening doors for any girl, regardless of looks or weight or relation to her,

Aww, that's nice.
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Statler

I have given up standing when a woman gets up from the dinner table.  It causes more confusion and delay and explanations.    Unfortunately it is now reserved for when G and I are dining alone in nice restaurants.


My friends make fun of me for my door rules.   (I think if you are in front of a group, you hold the door for that group and the first guy who is not with your group takes your spot and so on and so on...  If someone is holding the door for you, you never allow your party to be split and thus split his...so you exchange and hold the door before the first of your party goes through...etc.etc. and so on and so forth)

Many people find this behavior pretentious instead of polite and courtious though.

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El Matador

Quote from: Statler on November 17, 2008, 09:58:16 AM
I have given up standing when a woman gets up from the dinner table.  It causes more confusion and delay and explanations.    Unfortunately it is now reserved for when G and I are dining alone in nice restaurants.

You are not alone.

Used to do this as well. Gave up on it pretty soon...

jdubbs32584

Quote from: El Matador on November 17, 2008, 10:00:04 AM
Used to do this as well. Gave up on it pretty soon...

I'm lucky that Mother didn't give up on these things.

Don't give up yet. There's still some of us out there that appreciate it and let you know with a smile and 'thank you'.


Kopfjäger

You should almost always rise when other guests arrive or depart. It's a symbolic act of respect. Plus, standing serves a practical purpose: Kissing or hugging someone from a seated position is awkward. Jodi Smith, president of Mannersmith, an etiquette consulting firm, and author of From Clueless to Class Act, explains, “If you shake hands across the table, you might knock something over or set your elbow on fire.” Even if you're in the middle of eating, you should get up (if you've got something in your mouth, swallow it first). Once you've offered your hug or handshake, sit down.

Sometimes it's inconvenient to physically greet someone. Perhaps you're in a large group and it would be too time-consuming for the approaching party to shake everyone's hand. Or maybe you're boxed in. Instead, do a half riseâ€"just enough for you to shake out the wrinkles in your trousers. Rodes Fishburne, a San Francisco writer with exquisite manners, says he always makes the effort, even if he can only rise a few inches: “It's a choreographed way of saying, 'I think you're worthy of me getting to my feet.'” If the table edge truly has you pinioned in your seat, then just say, “Sorry I can't get up.”

But what about the issue of men rising if a woman leaves, temporarily, to go to the bathroom or something? Many believe this custom originated when a man always stood to pull out a lady's chair. “Women were seen as frail flowers too weak to do it themselves,” Smith says. Personally, I find that this kind of chivalry goes hand in hand with sexism. The last time I saw men stand for women in this way was when I was an undergraduate at Oxford University, a place where my professor thought nothing of telling me he'd admitted the women in the year below for their looks.

So while I don't expect a bathroom rise, when I called around, I was surprised to find that some women doâ€"at least on special occasions. Even Cameron Tuttle, author of The Bad Girl's Guides and advocate of using a condom as a ponytail holder, says, “It's honoring a woman in a way we're not honored these days.” So be aware that in more buttoned-up settings, some women will think it's classy if you get up for them.

There's no need to do it at McDonald's or brunch. Save the gesture for dinner at a swanky restaurant, or any occasion that requires cocktail attire. Unless you're in black tie, a half rise will suffice.

You need get up only for your date and/or for a woman sitting next to you, and only the first time she excuses herself from the table. Otherwise, it could get awkward. What if she has an upset stomach, a coke habit, or bulimia? It's best not to draw attention to the length and frequency of a woman's breaks
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TiNi

i'll agree with JB... most women like a true gentleman  ;)

jdubbs32584

Quote from: DuCaTiNi on November 17, 2008, 10:11:45 AM
i'll agree with JB... most women like a true gentleman  ;)

He'll deny it to the end but he definitely is. Lets me order first, seats me first, opens doors, all that stuff. And its definitely appreciated.

He also leaps tall buildings in a single bound.  ;)


I know MonsterMash's post was more general, but on this subtopic, being a gentleman really is appreciated by most women. And those are the women that you wanna know, not the ones who don't recognize and appreciate your effort.

the_Journeyman

Quote from: kopfjager on November 17, 2008, 10:11:15 AM
You should almost always rise when other guests arrive or depart. It's a symbolic act of respect.

I do this when someone enters my classroom.  You'd be surprise at the number of people that tell me to sit down.  I still do it though.

JM
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