need some advice...

[the_Journeyman]

I stayed with 2-valve when I "upgraded" I wanted something with a bit more zip and FI.  I picked up a 900SS and love it.  The 800 won't be enough different from you 750 aside from the FI. 

I stayed with 2-valve for a couple things.  Ease of maintenance (I do all my own) and insurance costs.

JM

[Triple J]

if he is credit challenged... then he should not be buy'n one.  and..... he's not tied into his bank, he can walk into any other bank or credit union and ask loan questions same  as the dealer. they will  want him to open an account, and thats where his 2k as a down payment comes into play.

True.

...although IIRC Ducati has been running some very good financing specials recently, with extremely low rates. Sometimes the delaer can beat the bank on rates.  Just because you got a loan from a bank doesn't mean you got a good deal. Banks make money off the loans too. IMO it's best to know what the bank can get you, but if the dealer can beat it...let them.

[Duck-Stew]

Ok, here's my 'chime in':

The carbed 750's are around 55-60hp.

The EFI 800's are around 70-75hp.

The EFI 1000's are around 80-85hp.


Either buy the 800 or the 1000.  If you're hesitant on the S4Rs, then don't get it. 

Remember this fact:  It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.

IMO:  The S4Rs is too much for the street. 

And if you own one and plan on defending your bike decision to me, go right ahead but I'm not attacking you, just offering my advice on the matter which is what the OP wanted.

[the_Journeyman]

Those are wheel figures, right?  I always felt like the 750 started pulling nicely a bit lower than the 800's FWIW ~

JM

[silentbob]

The testa powered monsters (S4R/S4RS) are comparible to a 999s with better ergo's for street riding.

If you wouldn't buy a 999 or big superbike because you are scared of it, then look to the s2r1k. 

The 05-06 999s had bigger intakes, bigger exhaust, bigger airbox, bigger injectors, hotter cams, titanium rods, etc.  The stock S4Rs (no Termi kit or open airbox) is very tame in comparison. 

If your big brain (the one in your head) is wired to your right hand, then you should have no problem moving to the S4Rs.

[Grampa]

True.

...although IIRC Ducati has been running some very good financing specials recently, with extremely low rates. Sometimes the delaer can beat the bank on rates.  Just because you got a loan from a bank doesn't mean you got a good deal. Banks make money off the loans too. IMO it's best to know what the bank can get you, but if the dealer can beat it...let them.

True, anytime you borrow money, somebody is gonna make a buck off you.....but the main reason for the customer to be preapproved prior to waking into a dealer...is to have the cash in hand, then he/she (the customer) has a better bargaining position in which to negotiate OTD price.

When a customer has the dealer do it all..... rarely do they work out all the numbers. The dealer pushes monthly price and down payment, because thats what the customer has to live with in the moment. Doing the legwork prior to going into a dealer, is the only way to know if the dealer is or can get you a better loan rate. Dont just assume that he is your buddy and he's trying to save you money. remember....it's his JOB to make as much money off you as possible. He/she does not get paid to be your friend.

A deal is all relative. If the customer is happy... he got a good deal. Until he finds out somebody got it better

[Grampa]

FYI..... I just applied for a sales postion at a BMW/KTM dealership   

[the_Journeyman]

Sounds like fun bp!

JM

[herm]

if he is credit challenged... then he should not be buy'n one.  and..... he's not tied into his bank, he can walk into any other bank or credit union and ask loan questions same  as the dealer. they will  want him to open an account, and thats where his 2k as a down payment comes into play.

the reality of it is.... with only 2k down  he will be upside down in the loan for  quite some  time, expecially if he is only wanting to pay about 220 a month.

listen to the sage who knows all


seriously, BP is making a lot of sense here.

[TiAvenger]

FYI..... I just applied for a sales postion at a BMW/KTM dealership   

Ill take a 690 duke please.

[Grampa]

Ill take a 690 duke please.

Phil is selling his 

I've ridden it.    weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[TiAvenger]

Phil is selling his 

I've ridden it.    weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

a new one.

and a 39 dollar a month payment with 0 down, just like yamaha offers.

[Grampa]

a new one.

and a 39 dollar a month payment with 0 down, just like yamaha offers.

I'll help you fill out the bailout form that comes free with all the 0down deals

[Grampa]

back to the OP

I bought a s2rm800 and totaled it after 3 months (not a speed related thing)

then I got an 01 m900 (bigger still)

then I got a 1098 (more bigger)

I like big....but I love my m750

[tilt]

i told the dealer today that im not interested for sure, so now im just gonna wait till i find the right s2r1000.  thanks to everyone here for your input, i just needed to here from one person that the s4r was to much bike for me.