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Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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corey

#1515
June 10, 2011, 05:51:39 AM
Quote from: Desert Dust on June 09, 2011, 09:59:06 PM
Thanks, I'll check it out.

the problem with the ETI cels is that they are for carbed monsters... which came with steel tanks...
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ducpainter

#1516
June 10, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: corey on June 10, 2011, 05:51:39 AM
the problem with the ETI cels is that they are for carbed monsters... which came with steel tanks...
John has made tanks for the injected monsters also.
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rac3r

#1517
June 10, 2011, 11:29:06 AM
I have this problem here in the UK. I'm currently in contact with Ducati and my Dealer so lets see what happens...

corey

#1518
June 10, 2011, 11:58:10 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on June 10, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
John has made tanks for the injected monsters also.

fair enough!
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DRKWNG

#1519
June 10, 2011, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: corey on June 10, 2011, 05:51:39 AM
the problem with the ETI cels is that they are for carbed monsters... which came with steel tanks...

I don't have that problem, as mine is a Sport1000.   :D
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Dave328

#1520
June 10, 2011, 04:47:08 PM Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 04:50:05 PM by Dave328
Just got the word that tank #2 was approved and it is in!  [clap]
Going tomorrow to get it installed. I'm still undecided how I'm going to proceed. The svc dept swears by Startron, saying they use it in all of their bikes and it seems to have slowed the swelling to a standstill. Do I want to run this in the tank and cross my fingers hoping DNA will do the right thing eventually? Or just get out from under this anvil and get a 996 and wait for the chrome to flake off of the POS rocker arms? ;D <sigh>

Uncle Mofo

#1521
June 10, 2011, 05:23:59 PM
I'm still waiting on thank #2  :'(


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thought

#1522
June 10, 2011, 05:49:19 PM
Quote from: Dave328 on June 10, 2011, 04:47:08 PM
Just got the word that tank #2 was approved and it is in!  [clap]
Going tomorrow to get it installed. I'm still undecided how I'm going to proceed. The svc dept swears by Startron, saying they use it in all of their bikes and it seems to have slowed the swelling to a standstill. Do I want to run this in the tank and cross my fingers hoping DNA will do the right thing eventually? Or just get out from under this anvil and get a 996 and wait for the chrome to flake off of the POS rocker arms? ;D <sigh>

caswell it... it's been pretty much a proven fix, and i believe even DNA has tested it as working.
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Dave328

#1523
June 11, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: thought on June 10, 2011, 05:49:19 PM
caswell it... it's been pretty much a proven fix, and i believe even DNA has tested it as working.
Was going to, but the svc mgr said he is seeing and also getting word from other dealers of instances where the coating is starting to peel and flake at the filler neck. I decided against opening a whole new can o'worms and give the Startron a shot. From what I have read, it appears to completely neutralize the ethanol/water separation which is our whole problem to begin with.

ducatiz

#1524
June 11, 2011, 07:54:51 PM
Quote from: Dave328 on June 11, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
Was going to, but the svc mgr said he is seeing and also getting word from other dealers of instances where the coating is starting to peel and flake at the filler neck. I decided against opening a whole new can o'worms and give the Startron a shot. From what I have read, it appears to completely neutralize the ethanol/water separation which is our whole problem to begin with.

I wish these guys would document it if they see it.  I haven't heard nor seen any such thing.  The guys on the multistrada board have been doing it for over 3 years now and none of them have had a single issue with it.  Moreover, nor has Caswell's had any reports of it or discussion of it on their online forum.
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Dave328

#1525
June 12, 2011, 05:28:46 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on June 11, 2011, 07:54:51 PM
I wish these guys would document it if they see it.  I haven't heard nor seen any such thing.  The guys on the multistrada board have been doing it for over 3 years now and none of them have had a single issue with it.  Moreover, nor has Caswell's had any reports of it or discussion of it on their online forum.
I know. And they still coat tanks anyway. I could have had mine done. This has been going on for so long, I have learned to take just about everything I hear with a grain of salt. However, if it was ever going to flake and peel, it would most likely start at the edge, ie: the filler neck. This is in NO way a knock on Caswell. I'm sure it is 100% effective against our issue!

ducatiz

#1526
June 12, 2011, 05:40:00 AM
One thought though:  since there is a deck at the filler that prevents one from seeing into the tank directly how have they observed said peeling?  Sounds like utter bullshit to me.
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Narflar

#1527
June 12, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
How does the coating hold up in a crash?  The plastic tanks will generally pop back into place but with a hard epoxy coating I imagine that would crack and flake off inside the tank.
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ducatiz

#1528
June 12, 2011, 11:29:33 AM
That's the 64,000$ question.  It is flexible once dried but I doubt it is as flexible as the nylon.
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arai_speed

#1529
June 13, 2011, 10:12:06 AM
I had my 3rd tank coated with Casswell and I haven't looked back since.  Someone on ducati.ms made a comparison between people replacing their clutch slave and not blinking an eye but yet raising up hell on coating the tank.
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