Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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aglanixp

Got the call that my tank is in.  Take it in on Friday to do the swap.
2007 S2R 1000

DarkStaR

Fcuk, the paint on my tank is cracking on the left side near the rubber support.  [bang]

wantingaduc

Has anyone had problems with expansion on a replacement tank and if so has Ducati stepped up to cover a second tank?
I had the original one on my 06 620 dark replaced last summer but I noticed the other day that I had to readjust the steering stop, which was the first indication of the expansion the other time.

I bought the EverRed warranty in hopes that if anything went wrong with the bike I'd be covered but I get the sinking feeling that they will try and dodge the tank if it actually expanding again.

jimi
I know what ruined America, the fu@k*ng Americans !!!

ducatiz

Jimi

I have guys on my list who have gotten 2 replacements.  Dna is replacing them. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Bill in OKC

I am in an odd situation.  Oklahoma still allows 100% gas but I hear the Federal Gov. is going to force our state to sell only e10 in the future.  I use 100% gas now so my tank has not expanded yet, but I am afraid it will when e10 becomes mandated and is the only fuel available.  By then my warranty will probably be expired and I'll be SOL.  I'd like to get an ethanol-proof tank but unless mine expands, there will be no replacement...  Should I start running e10 now so I can get a replacement tank while I still can?  e10 sux.
'07 S4Rs  '02 RSVR  '75 GT550  '13 FXSB  '74 H1E  '71 CB750

ducatiz

Bill are you sure there is no e10 in OK? 

Pm coming
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Bill in OKC

Quote from: ducatiz on May 22, 2010, 01:40:21 AM
Bill are you sure there is no e10 in OK? 

Pm coming

There is e10 and 100% gas available here.  They passed a state law that requires the stations to label the pumps so I can choose.  I put 100% gas in my vehicles and lawn equipment.  Sometimes I don't have a choice but if I have to buy e10 out somewhere, I generally use most of it up and can fill up with real gas before I get home.  Generally you can count on Valero to have real gas around here, the other stations vary by location.
'07 S4Rs  '02 RSVR  '75 GT550  '13 FXSB  '74 H1E  '71 CB750

Old-Duckman

06 S2R 1000. This spring unable to unlatch.

Called dealer , he called Ducati, they want to have me bring up the bike and take pix.

My Question:
(Probably covered before but I don't want to sift through 38 pages of posts...)

Should I put my evaporative canister back on the bike before taking it to the dealer?

How 'bout original exhaust?

My guess is, canister, Yes. Exhaust, No need.

ducatiz

Neither.   Mine is heavily modded, pc3n no belt covers, full exhaust, cut airbox, evap long gone.  They replaced it wo a tweet.

Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

jgrm1

Quote from: Old-Duckman on May 25, 2010, 01:59:49 PM
Should I put my evaporative canister back on the bike before taking it to the dealer?

My dealer actually removed my canister when replacing my tank.

-Jeff
BMW:  2016 R1200RS, 2000 R1100S, 1975 R90S
Ducati:  2008 S2R1000, 1998 900 Supersport Final Edition
Norton:  1974 Commando 850
Triumph:  2016 Thruxton R, 1971 T120R

DUCURTI

2007 s4rs.

I joined the list today. Can someone give me the short version of how the replacement process works??
2007 s4rs

Duckintime

Go to dealership, they take pics, you take bike, they send in claim, call you when its in.
In my case, they started the paper work before they saw the bike. My bike was in the shop for about a week or 2.
Dont let your dealership give you the run around or pass the buck. Ducati knows about this.

ducatiz

I managed to pick up a tank that I can send out for lab testing. 

Stay tuned.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

mitt

I still think this is a multiple variable problem.  I am posting because it is boating season again, and I got to use my 5 gallon plastic boat tank last week.  That thing was expanded like a ballon.  It had been sitting all winter with the cap on and vent closed.  I had a hard time even twisting the cap off it was under so much pressure. 

It gradually goes back to "original" shape after a day or 2 sitting with the vent open.  But, it is thin, flexible material, so it doesn't have a memory.   If it was a material that yielded plastic (irreversible), then it would do the same thing as the monster tanks are doing.  So, I think it may be a combination of pressure, poor venting, poor materials, and maybe ethanol is a catalyst.

It would be fun to install a pressure gauge on a sealed tank with some gas in it, and then record the pressure with time and temperature.

mitt

DUCURTI

Quote from: mitt on May 27, 2010, 05:45:43 AMSo, I think it may be a combination of pressure, poor venting, poor materials, and maybe ethanol is a catalyst.

mitt

That is sad considering that it's Ducati were talking about here. None of the $8000 Suzuki motorcycles I've owned have had expanding gas tanks.
2007 s4rs