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Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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gr1976

#1350
February 02, 2011, 08:10:06 AM
I plan on coating the tank on the bike I just purchased w/ the Caswell kit. However, if it does end up expanding (seems doubtful) will this give the factory a reason not to replace my tank because modified it?

ducatiz

#1351
February 02, 2011, 08:13:57 AM
Everyone I've spoken to who has gotten a tank inspected and replaced has said that the inspection did not include looking inside the tank.

Furthermore, the coating is transparent, so I don't know how they would even know it's been coated unless chemically tested.
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Case S2R

#1352
February 02, 2011, 04:50:08 PM
You can tell a tank is coated by looking in it, no need for a chemical test.  When you coat your new one you will understand.

ducatiz

#1353
February 02, 2011, 06:06:47 PM
Quote from: Case S2R on February 02, 2011, 04:50:08 PM
You can tell a tank is coated by looking in it, no need for a chemical test.  When you coat your new one you will understand.


It's true, I was referring to the dealer inspection and that they would only be able to look thru the filler for that.  The first time they will have a chance to see inside the tank closeup is after the replacement has already been approved and new tank received by the dealer.

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slower than...

#1354
February 04, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Ah, the joys of owning a Ducati....

Tank #3 has expanded beyond the shims and is showing its first blister.  Dealer has reported it and hopes to get yet another replacement tank shortly.  Tank #4 will be sealed on my dime before putting it on the bike.
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Massinova

#1355
February 04, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
Ever since I've heard about the expanding tank problem, I was quick to make sure I restricted the amount of ethanol mixed gas in my tank.  However, my tank is slowly starting to ripple and dimple more with time.   I really don't want another similar type tank put on my bike, I want them (Ducati) to replace it with a permanent fix.   IMO, not only 1 but 3 tank replacements is a huge waste of time, effort and  resources for the customer, the dealer, and Ducati.

Desert Dust

#1356
February 04, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Massinova on February 04, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
Ever since I've heard about the expanding tank problem, I was quick to make sure I restricted the amount of ethanol mixed gas in my tank.  However, my tank is slowly starting to ripple and dimple more with time.   I really don't want another similar type tank put on my bike, I want them (Ducati) to replace it with a permanent fix.   IMO, not only 1 but 3 tank replacements is a huge waste of time, effort and  resources for the customer, the dealer, and Ducati.

I couldn't agree more; however, it seems that all Ducati will do for now is replace the stock tank with another. At least, untill someone sues them and wins.
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cdnrcr

#1357
February 07, 2011, 10:02:51 PM
Signed up. thanks

Mojo S2R

#1358
February 10, 2011, 03:43:31 AM
Seems even the new style Monsters are having issues with tank expansion.  I just posted a link to this thread over on ducati.ms: http://www.ducati.ms/forums/42-monster/104841-m696-tank-expansion.html#post1020460

xcaptainxbloodx

#1359
February 10, 2011, 08:06:53 PM
Quote from: Massinova on February 04, 2011, 05:32:48 PM
Ever since I've heard about the expanding tank problem, I was quick to make sure I restricted the amount of ethanol mixed gas in my tank.  However, my tank is slowly starting to ripple and dimple more with time.   I really don't want another similar type tank put on my bike, I want them (Ducati) to replace it with a permanent fix.   IMO, not only 1 but 3 tank replacements is a huge waste of time, effort and  resources for the customer, the dealer, and Ducati.

Im sure Ducati agrees with you, as pissed as we are about this how pissed do you think Ducati is at Acerbis for not making a tank that holds up and reduces Ducati's PR? rest assured they've been up their ass about this from day 1, just because WE haven't heard/seen squat doesn't mean wheels aren't turning behind the scenes.

IMO they should have ditched Acerbis as soon as they started seeing this and found someone who could do it right (even going back to steel tanks) but im sure there are obligations we don't know about that are keeping the companies tied. given the recent litigation I wouldn't be surprised to see a change soon, especially if the new monsters are going to start pissing gas on the exhaust...

poseur

#1360
February 20, 2011, 09:18:10 AM
Does anyone know what's going on with that class action law suit? When can we expect some sort of fix for this issue?

ducatiz

#1361
February 20, 2011, 09:31:21 AM
These cases can move very slowly.

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mjk778

#1362
February 20, 2011, 02:08:02 PM
Quote from: Mojo S2R on February 10, 2011, 03:43:31 AM
Seems even the new style Monsters are having issues with tank expansion.  I just posted a link to this thread over on ducati.ms: http://www.ducati.ms/forums/42-monster/104841-m696-tank-expansion.html#post1020460


I can understand tanks made between 05-08 having expanding issues (Even though acerbis/ducati should have researched potential issues w/ ethanol), but the newer bikes?  With how publicized the issue has been, you would think Ducati would have done everything possible to avoid this on their newer bikes .

I'm scratching my head on this one???

BoDiddley

#1363
February 20, 2011, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: mjk778 on February 20, 2011, 02:08:02 PM

I can understand tanks made between 05-08 having expanding issues (Even though acerbis/ducati should have researched potential issues w/ ethanol), but the newer bikes?  With how publicized the issue has been, you would think Ducati would have done everything possible to avoid this on their newer bikes .

I'm scratching my head on this one???

Is their a definite with confirmation that the new tanks are made of the same material as pre 08?   I must have missed it?
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Howie

#1364
February 20, 2011, 06:30:07 PM Last Edit: February 20, 2011, 06:34:46 PM by howie
Quote from: BoDiddley on February 20, 2011, 06:05:29 PM
Is their a definite with confirmation that the new tanks are made of the same material as pre 08?   I must have missed it?

They are not the same material.  There have been some tank problems with the new generation Monsters, not as common and maybe not related.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.msg809084#msg809084
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