Watch out for the dog

Started by S4ROB, May 20, 2008, 12:13:29 PM

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S4ROB

One of my friends was taken out by a dog a couple of weeks ago. He said when the dog came after him, he tried to kick it. The dog then tried to avoid being kicked and ran right in front of the bike, so his leg then acted like a kickstand. Really screwed his leg up.  He was only going about 15 or 20 mph.

Has a dog ever came after you?

Whats the best way to evade a dog or other creature ? 

I think gas it and go if you can.
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Aminul

In my MSF someone asked the same question.  The instructor said to drive slowly towards the dog and then throttle around him when you get close.  The idea was by kicking the dog you have a better chance of losing balance yourself.  (or scaring the dog into running in your path!)  Luckily, I haven't had a chance to put this advise to use.

Ducatiloo

Quote from: Aminul on May 20, 2008, 04:22:49 PM
In my MSF someone asked the same question.  The instructor said to drive slowly towards the dog and then throttle around him when you get close.  The idea was by kicking the dog you have a better chance of losing balance yourself.  (or scaring the dog into running in your path!)  Luckily, I haven't had a chance to put this advise to use.

+1 on that.  I wait until the dog gets to the side of me then gun it.  IF you take off while the dog is charging he may cut you off, and take you down.
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ducatiz

I had a similar thing happen to me about a year ago, dog was coming towards me doing stupid dog stuff.  I was in 2nd gear driving in the neighborhood slow (I try to be nice to the neighbors)

When it was clear he was coming close, I clutched and revved the engine.  It scared the shit out of the dog and he turned tail and ran.

Depends on how loud your pipes are, mine are PFL at full throttle.

I didn't even go above 20-25 mph
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kutter

Threadjack, sort of.

This thread made me think about watching my dog. He would always run to the street and chase cars but never leave the yard, they say it's a territory thing why they do it, chasing stuff away and all. Anyway, he never actually ran at the car, he calculated in his head the intercept point and ran there, it was a really big yard. I spent several years teaching people how to plot intercepts on maneuvering boards and rapid radar plot and it was a pain and a lot of them never really grasped the concept, yet my dog did it all in his head without thinking. Must be a hunting thing left over from being a wolf.

End threadjack.

So maybe the best thing to do is to let them figure your course and speed and plot the intercept then alter your speed dramatically so they cannot achieve intercept.

Is that a really fancy way of saying speed up a whole lot?
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Quote from: Aminul on May 20, 2008, 04:22:49 PM
The instructor said to drive slowly towards the dog and then throttle around him when you get close. 

+1
No FHE, but that's what MSF instructors say.  Drive slowly towards the dog (to get the dog to commit to a path) then swerve away from the dog and gun it.

univox

General consensus is to slow down then speed up again. The change in speed will throw off the dog's natural ability to intercept your path.

DY

Quote from: univox on May 21, 2008, 08:18:58 AM
The change in speed will throw off the dog's natural ability to intercept your path.

Best explanation.  [thumbsup]

CNS-Mike

The guy I bought my first motorcycle from lived on a farm in rural Wisconsin.  He was big into bikes and owned several.  He also had a huge f'ng rottweiler that hated bikes and would always chase them and try to bite the rear tire off.  So one of the first things this newly minted squid learned was how to shake the dog in pursuit.  Slow down until they commit to their line of approach and then gun it.    It's like Billy D's Colt 45 - Works everytime.  [beer]
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Quote from: deweey on May 21, 2008, 08:36:26 AM
Best explanation.  [thumbsup]

Thats what my MSF instructer said as well

duc996

I thought dogs would only chase you on the side,that's what my MSF instructor told us,so he said keep it in straight line and speed up a bit.Umm...
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Quote from: kutter on May 21, 2008, 08:11:08 AM
Threadjack, sort of.

This thread made me think about watching my dog. He would always run to the street and chase cars but never leave the yard, they say it's a territory thing why they do it, chasing stuff away and all. Anyway, he never actually ran at the car, he calculated in his head the intercept point and ran there, it was a really big yard. I spent several years teaching people how to plot intercepts on maneuvering boards and rapid radar plot and it was a pain and a lot of them never really grasped the concept, yet my dog did it all in his head without thinking. Must be a hunting thing left over from being a wolf.

End threadjack.

So maybe the best thing to do is to let them figure your course and speed and plot the intercept then alter your speed dramatically so they cannot achieve intercept.

Is that a really fancy way of saying speed up a whole lot?

Thats exactly what your are supposed todo it is a hunting instinct.  A lot of predatory animals do the same thing all the time just watch some animal planet!
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rockaduc

Quote from: univox on May 21, 2008, 08:18:58 AM
General consensus is to slow down then speed up again. The change in speed will throw off the dog's natural ability to intercept your path.

Exactly, this also works on a Snowmobile!!!!  (First hand experience).
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Quote from: rockaduc on May 22, 2008, 03:43:37 PM
Exactly, this also works on a Snowmobile!!!!  (First hand experience).

Why are snowmobiles chasing you on your motorcycle?


trenner

I had a friend who rode over a couch on the LA freeway, on his motorcycle.  When he saw that he was going to hit it, he leaned back and opened the throttle.  Landed unhurt, made a great story to tell over beer.

Probably wouldn't work as well for dogs.