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Started by Monsterlover, July 24, 2009, 04:37:19 PM

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Monsterlover

July 24, 2009, 04:37:19 PM Last Edit: July 24, 2009, 04:40:27 PM by Monsterlover
Ive been on the lookout for a mid to late 90's up to early 2000's chevy 4x4 ext cab truck.

They all seem to be in the 5-8k range

Today I found a 2001 ext cab 4x4, z71, spray in bedliner, all power, heated leather, 141,000 miles at a lot for $7500

While talking to the guy, he eventually volunteered that they might be tempted to sell with an offer as low as $7000.  They've had the truck on the lot a while and it's going to auction next Tuesday.

Further talking to him about the auctions i learned:

When they have vehicles a while, they go to auction.  They apply profits from vehicles they make money on at auction to vehicles they don't make money on at auction (ie they loose money on some)

Trucks are outrageous right now.  They originally had this truck at $10,900 with no action.  They mark it down (green numbers indicate this) just to move it after a while.  If it still doesn't sell it goes to auction.

Which brings us up to now.

I'm gonna go back Monday and look it over more closely and test drive it.

Im thinking of offering $7000 out the door to see what they do (this is an offer of $6580 before tax.)  PA has a 6% sales tax btw.

My logic is that if it is about to go to auction, where they may very well loose money on it, it would be better to sell at zero or low profit now then loose money on it at the auction.

Am I nuts?  Kbb values it higher on all points than the $7500 they're asking.

It is a nice truck, and I am prepared to walk if the deal isn't right.  This is also a cash deal if it matters.

It looks pretty much like this:



I've considered Fords as well, but I never clicked with the looks, and I've had a couple Fords that didn't treat me well.  We'll, it's not that, it's more that I hated the design once I was well into their innards to repair things.

I don't fit in S10's or Rangers so they're out.

Thoughts?
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ducpainter

#1
July 24, 2009, 04:40:50 PM
I think you should buy sumthin' with less than 150K on it. ;)
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Monsterlover

#2
July 24, 2009, 05:03:44 PM
It has less than 150k

I don't care about mileage.  I can fix things that wear with mileage.

A body man i am not.

I take paint off of things, I don't put it back on.

;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#3
July 24, 2009, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 24, 2009, 05:03:44 PM
It has less than 150k

I don't care about mileage.  I can fix things that wear with mileage.

A body man i am not.

I take paint off of things, I don't put it back on.

;D

141/150...

same thing. ;D

IMO used trucks are waaaay overpriced right now.

No value.

I'd beat up a dealer on a new one and stretch on the money before I paid 7K for a 100+K truck.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


herm

#4
July 24, 2009, 05:16:57 PM
nate speaks the truth....unless its a diesel. then the miles are almost irrelevant.

i think you would be better off to find a private party sale...
or try nates tactic with a chevy dealer.
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

Monsterlover

#5
July 24, 2009, 05:18:24 PM
new ones aren't cheap either and that wouldn't allow me to do a cash deal.

There aren't any rebates of significance on new trucks around here.  Im friends with a guy who's a salesman for a local GM dealership and they don't even have any ext cab 4x4's on the lot since GM shut the lines down.

All he has are work trucks.

cash deal is important, I don't want to owe more ;)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

herm

#6
July 24, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 24, 2009, 05:18:24 PM
new ones aren't cheap either and that wouldn't allow me to do a cash deal.

There aren't any rebates of significance on new trucks around here.  Im friends with a guy who's a salesman for a local GM dealership and they don't even have any ext cab 4x4's on the lot since GM shut the lines down.

All he has are work trucks.

cash deal is important, I don't want to owe more ;)

right there with you dude!
go for the private seller. they know they will get more from you than a dealer will give them, and you should be able to get a truck without that dealer markup.
If you drive the nicest car in the neighborhood, work in a cash business, and don't pay taxes, you're either a preacher or a drug dealer...

ducpainter

#7
July 24, 2009, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: herm on July 24, 2009, 05:16:57 PM
nate speaks the truth....unless its a diesel. then the miles are almost irrelevant.



unless you live in the northeast and rust will eat your truck alive....
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#8
July 24, 2009, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: herm on July 24, 2009, 05:21:47 PM
right there with you dude!
go for the private seller. they know they will get more from you than a dealer will give them, and you should be able to get a truck without that dealer markup.

I'll take a look to see what's out there again.  Been looking and watching the market for 2-3 months now.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#9
July 24, 2009, 05:40:20 PM
How about this one?

I could sell that cap.  Fixing the ac and the window are cake jobs. 

Price is sure right ;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#10
July 24, 2009, 05:45:25 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 24, 2009, 05:40:20 PM
How about this one?

I could sell that cap.  Fixing the ac and the window are cake jobs. 

Price is sure right ;D
220K...on a chevy?

You're on crack... :P
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#11
July 24, 2009, 05:50:31 PM
oh c'mon it's not like a Ford would ever get that far ;)

[laugh]

There's a 2001 2500HD in the local paper for $7k but mileage is not listed in the ad . . .
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#12
July 24, 2009, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on July 24, 2009, 05:50:31 PM
oh c'mon it's not like a Ford would ever get that far ;)

[laugh]

There's a 2001 2500HD in the local paper for $7k but mileage is not listed in the ad . . .
just don't start thinking Dodge. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#13
July 24, 2009, 05:59:20 PM
that's a big 10-4
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Popeye the Sailor

#14
July 24, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
I's have to agree with nate-those trucks are high mileage, and probably no end of abuse.


I'd be poking the dealers right now for a cheap new one.
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