ungeheuer 1100S - Rexxer ECU reflash + PC5 + AT100 Dual Autotune.

[ungeheuer]

Could you please confirm the hardware of those pics?
Speedymoto Top Triple Clamp
Swatt 2 1/2"

G'Day Paulo    Yup, Speedymoto top triple and 2.5" Swatts in those pics (although I now run 3.5" Swatts).

Any issue with the air intakes?

As in clearance issues with the bars?  Running the 2.5"ers I had to back out the steering stops very slightly to avoid contact, but running the 3.5"ers there's no issue even with the steering stops in the stock position.

Did you mount the headligth without any changes?

The speedymoto top triple kinda forces you into changing the headlight mounting position - mine is mounted around 5mm lower and 5mm further away from the forks.  All the details here >> http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21407.msg447867#msg447867

I've seen another M1100S with the Top Triple Clamp from Speedymoto but it seems like the headlight is a little bit higher and forward than yours. I like as it fit in your Monster.

Yeah, I didnt like that "perched on top" look of the speedo binacle, so I lowered mine by around 12mm to pull it in closer to the new top triple for IMO a cleaner look.

[pjfa]

Thank's for your feedback 

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21407.msg447867#msg447867
Yeah, I didnt like that "perched on top" look of the speedo binacle, so I lowered mine by around 12mm to pull it in closer to the new top triple for IMO a cleaner look.

How did you do it? You wrote:
I've since modified the instrument binnacle mounting brackets so that it now sits lower and tighter into the top triple - eliminates that "perched on top" look.

But I can't find/see the way to

[pjfa]

Hi,

I get my set of 1098 Showa and after done some measurements I get the following:
M696 Fork 680mm Height
1098 Fork 710mm Height

So, I have a clearance - above the Speedymoto Triple - of 35mm.

My only option is fit clipons (without rise or just a little bit) above.
I've been looking for some 53mm clipons and find the Drivens (I like the bracket but I don't know the height)


I can't find any feedback in the forum and ask if you know if they are fine or I should go for other brand (Speedymoto, Swatt, Vortex)




Other options?

Sorry to post this here 

[stopintime]

PJFA:

The SpeedyMoto triple is flat. Your stock triple isn't. The stock fork clamps grip the forks lower, so you need to measure at the lower triple to position the forks at the stock height. This means that the clearance above the top triple is not the same after installing a SpeedyMoto - maybe you don't actually have 35mm clearance above?

[ungeheuer]

How did you do it? You wrote:
I've since modified the instrument binnacle mounting brackets so that it now sits lower and tighter into the top triple - eliminates that "perched on top" look.
But I can't find/see the way to...

I took some pics back when I made the mock-up for my 696, but I did it exactly the same way on the 1100 too..... Goes something like this..

To get from this...


...to this


You have to cut down the speedo binnacle mounting arms (part of the headlight bezel casting)


I cut the speedo binnacle mounting arms down by around 12mm and at an angle so that they would fit neatly inside the speedo's lower plastic cover...


... and made up 2 small brackets which bolt up to the lower mounting holes (the upper mounting holes have now been amputated).

I hand filed grooves into the cut top section so that the speedo's upper mounting screws fit nicer than shown in these mock-up pics...

... and then finished it neatly before sending the whole headlight bezel assembly to be ceramic coated.

Hope this helps  

[ungeheuer]

Hi, I get my set of 1098 Showa and after done some measurements I get the following:
M696 Fork 680mm Height
1098 Fork 710mm Height

So, I have a clearance - above the Speedymoto Triple - of 35mm.

pjfa you have me completely confused  ...  Are you saying that the 1098 forks will protrude above the top triple by 35mm more than the stock 696 forks do??  And are you intending to mount clipons ABOVE the top triple??  stopintime is correct, coz of the profile of the speedymoto top triple, it clamps the forks at a point ..maybe 10mm higher (yeah I know I said 15mm higher on another thread, but thinking about it, its more like 10mm) ..than the stock top triple...  meaning that you'd have no more than 25mm above the top triple available to mount your clipons.... um?

My only option is fit clipons (without rise or just a little bit) above.

Por que? Why's your only option to fit clipons above the top triple??  Why couldnt you fit clipons (with some rise) below??

Sorry to post this here 

Yeah  Threadjacker   

[stopintime]

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Por que? Why's your only option to fit clipons above the top triple??  Why couldnt you fit clipons (with some rise) below??
 

Do you think there will be enough rise to the risers to clear a ~25mm fork "top"? I would guess yes to SpeedyMoto's Tall Boys, but no to Swatt's.
Maybe the ones in PJFA's bottom picture or Apex' will fit "above" - if needed with a very modest lowering of the front?

[pjfa]

ungeheuer & stopintime - this is why I realy love this forum.
Thank's for your answers 

Even with the Speedymoto Top Triple, the clearance will be 35mm.
But, when I get the Top Triple, I will check it.

[stopintime]

ungeheuer & stopintime - this is why I realy love this forum.
Thank's for your answers 

Even with the Speedymoto Top Triple, the clearance will be 35mm.
But, when I get the Top Triple, I will check it.

You're welcome

, but you did understand the issues regarding the different profiles of the stock and SpeedyMoto triples?
If you want the same geometry as stock (mounting the forks at the stock height by the lower triple) the available fork space above the top triple will change.

[pjfa]

You're welcome

, but you did understand the issues regarding the different profiles of the stock and SpeedyMoto triples?
If you want the same geometry as stock (mounting the forks at the stock height by the lower triple) the available fork space above the top triple will change.

Yes, I understand the issue regarding this.
I will keep the same geometry (390mm from the center of the axle to the bottom of the lower top triple).
That's why in the top (of the top triple) the 35mm stay "out" of the triple.

[stopintime]

Yes, I understand the issue regarding this.
I will keep the same geometry (390mm from the center of the axle to the bottom of the lower top triple).
That's why in the top (of the top triple) the 35mm stay "out" of the triple.

Sorry, but no - I'll try to explain better.....
You are correct about where to measure (you just called it "lower top" triple)
The top triple position is decided by the center stem nut (Ungeheuer has a golden one). From there the SpeedyMoto triple goes straight/flat out towards the fork tubes. The stock top triple goes from the center stem nut and THEN gradually tapers/"falls" downwards connecting the fork tubes at a lower position, thus leaving more room to mount a clip on ABOVE it.

[stopintime]

I made this "paint" image to illustrate...

Not much of an artist, but maybe you understand what I'm trying to show

[pjfa]

Yes, I know and your thinking is ok for stock Fork (685mm) but no for the 1098 Fork (710mm) - I think  

Edit: (see the pic - I add the height of the 1098 Showa)

[stopintime]

If I understand you correctly, you're saying you have enough fork length to accomodate clip ons above the triple regardless of which top triple you use? I'm a bit confused, because you said the available space was ~35mm and I'm saying the available space will change. Maybe it will still be enough, but I think not (at least not for the Driven clip ons).

[pjfa]

If I understand you correctly, you're saying you have enough fork length to accomodate clip ons above the triple regardless of which top triple you use?

Yes, using Speedymotos (as your "paint" image).

I'm a bit confused, because you said the available space was ~35mm and I'm saying the available space will change. Maybe it will still be enough, but I think not (at least not for the Driven clip ons).

Thank's. I will contact Driven and ask them about the height of their clipon clamps