ungeheuer 1100S - Rexxer ECU reflash + PC5 + AT100 Dual Autotune.

[ungeheuer]

Do you think there will be enough rise to the risers to clear a ~25mm fork "top"? I would guess yes to SpeedyMoto's Tall Boys, but no to Swatt's.

I think 3.5" Swatts set right up under the top triple may just clear.....  Later I can measure and report back    But..... if you "reversed" Mk2 Swatts (here we go again....  ) so that they were mounted opposite to how mine are, then there would be no issue with clearance at all.  Might look a bit weird though....

Thank's. I will contact Driven and ask them about the height of their clipon clamps  

What about this for an option (or have you already committed to the speedymoto top triple?)  >> http://www.rizoma.com/Prodotti/ProdottiSport.cfm?ID_categoria=20

If you do end up with 35mm of available fork above the top triple, I'm confident you'll find some clipons to fit above and its likely to look pretty neat too I reckon....  

[pjfa]

Hi Steve,

About Speedymoto Triple Clamp: already payed 

Swatt option - I realy want clipons to fit above the triple.

Breaking News- I already get an answer from Driven: the height of the clamp is 40mm 

[ungeheuer]

Gotcha.  Well good luck with it, if I stumble across any clipons that look like they'll fit I'll let you know.

[Raux]

i picked up the raised DP clipons for the Sport Classic and gonna try those.

[ungeheuer]

Yeah I thought about those sport classic clipons too, they're a more attractive piece of design than the Swatt Bricks.  pjfa wants above-the-triple clipons though.

I think 3.5" Swatts set right up under the top triple may just clear.....  Later I can measure and report back 

Homework: 3.5" Swatts would clear 25mm of protruding fork leg, be a very tight prospect with 30mm and no way if its 35mm. Not that any of this matters to pjfa, but others may benefit...

[DoWorkSon]

Hey Unge, sent you a PM

[bigjilm]

I made this "paint" image to illustrate...

Not much of an artist, but maybe you understand what I'm trying to show

Stopintime and Ungeheuer - it feels like I've asked every possible question with regards to Swatt clip-ons, so I apologize in advance for this last couple.  Ya, last couple for sure.

I've got a M1100 with 3.5" Swatts.  I finally got everything buttoned back up on my bike, and my turning radius is almost nil.  I tried backing out the end-stops to prevent mashing my bars into the tank, but even wound completely out isn't far enough.  Since I need to be able to turn, this isn't a good situation.

So, looking at my bike, I think I'm stuck with a couple of options:
1)  Move the clip-ons out, so they are more straight across.  I really don't want to do this, as the whole reason I went to clip-ons was to get a more 'sportbike' angle on my hands.  The ergos on the stock bar was giving me some serious RSI.
2)  Try and raise the clip-ons further, to see if they interfere with the tank less.  I already have them all the way up under the top triple, but I could go another 3mm or so if I grind off the nubs from where the old cable routing clamps.  I don't think 3mm is going to do much.

So, then I look at Stopintime's work of art, and it looks that there might be more room under the Speedymoto triple compared to stock.  Is this true?  If I can raise them another say 3cm, and maybe move them outward a few degrees, maybe this will all work?

For anyone else considering putting clip-ons on a M1100, you may want to reconsider.  Holy crap this is a project and a half.

[stopintime]

I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble.

You're going to have to wait for Ungeheuer to reply - he's the one with the 696/1100 clip on knowledge.

There is more room under a SpeedyMoto top triple, but some of it is negated by the added thickness of the SpeedyMoto piece.

[Raux]

i picked up the S&P triples and there will be more room under it compared to the stock triples. most of the aftermarket triples do get rid of the wing shape of the stock. as long as they are single bolt you should see some difference. if it's a two bolt top triple you can expect little extra space

[ungeheuer]

bigjilm what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger, so hang in there with it even though its obvious you are having some frustration....  

So, firstly.... some pics of your set up would probably assist....  Secondly, I'm assuming that you've seen pics of my M1100 wearing both 2.5" and 3.5" Swatts (albeit with a speedymoto top triple), so you know that what you want to do has gotta be possible.  

OK, so you say that your 3.5" Swatts are bolted right up as high as the stock top triple will allow, yes?  And in this position you cant get acceptable steering lock to lock along with acceptable sweepback on the bars, right?  When you compare your setup to pics of mine, how does the sweepback compare?  Have you gone for a more radical sweepback perhaps?  I ask coz I'm struggling to understand why you would have so much trouble with this, since even when I tried 2.5" Swatts I lost only a very slight amount of steering lock in order to avoid the bars contacting the sides of the "tank", and with the 3.5" theres no loss of lock at all.  When you turn the steering fully to the right (or left) at what point do the bars contact the tank?  On mine, when turned fully the handlebar controls just sneak into the mesh air-intake indentations with around 3mm to spare before any contact.  And this with the lock-stops in the stock position remember.

Who thinks there's more than 1" difference between the height you can bolt up under the stock triple when compared to the higher height offered beneath a speedymoto triple?  I dont think there would be as much as an inch..... and so therefore, when I was able to gain an acceptable setup running 2.5" tall swatts right up beneath the higher (at the fork legs) speedy triple, you ought to be getting a similar result running 3.5" tall Swatts right up under your (lower) stock triple... ??   What I'm attempting to say (not very well...) is that if your stock triple clamp forces you to set your bars at a height 1" lower than can be achieved under a speedymoto (or similar) top triple, then your 3.5" Swatt setup ought to end up more or less comparable to my 2.5" Swatts.  And whilst I am happier with my 3.5"ers, the 2.5" were completely fine - only losing a small amount of steering lock.  

Pictures bigjilm, pictures.....  

[MonsterTom]

New suit...

ungeheuer,

I've been considering cutting my stock rear fender in lieu of one of the tail tidy kits.  I just came across these photo's of your bike, and it looks like you've already done it!  Do my eyes decieve me?  Did you encounter any issues, or have any advice to offer?  Thanks.

[ungeheuer]

Woohoo - a not clipon question   Thanks for getting my thread back ontrack MonsterTom  
Now to answer your question: That there rear end is in fact the DP tail tidy, the tidiest (if perhaps mildest too) tail tidy of em all IMHO - just like the stock tail... but less so  

To the clipon guys... dont be offended, but rather than deal with those issues any further here (coz this thread is meant to be about me and my M1100  ...lol) How about we continue the clipons conversation over here >> http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21407.msg447867#msg447867

[MonsterTom]

Hmmmm...interesting, so it may very well be that Ducati simply "shortened" there stock tail, albeit with new parts based on the stock design, with their tail tidy kit.  I think I should be able to acheive a similar result if I cut my stock tail.  I might have to try it.

[bigjilm]

Pictures bigjilm, pictures.....  

I finally put down the wrenches and picked up the camera.  Rather than add my mess to this thread, celebrating the incredible bike you've put together, I've created my own thread. 

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=35967.0

Everything you've said makes sense, and it leads me to the inescapable conclusion.  I have to reduce my sweep-back - easier said than done, as you know.  See you in the other thread...

[sydmonster]

just went through the whole thread  !



only looking at teh picsors!

Lorv this bike. I too am stuck in the "prefer the olda stuff" Klan, but tis all relative.! Great work!  [moto] BOTM!!???