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ducpainter

#510
August 28, 2010, 03:01:35 AM
Quote from: Raux on August 28, 2010, 02:36:02 AM
I had mine painted not PC'd. They said something like 50% of the paint was wasted. which sucked as it was a custom mix to match the PPG Ducati color.
Yup...

it ends up on the booth floor and in the filters.
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killerpenguin

#511
August 28, 2010, 12:44:57 PM
Could you guys give Me an estimate on the time involved in disassembling the bike to seperate the frame??
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Raux

#512
August 28, 2010, 12:52:58 PM
Quote from: killerpenguin on August 28, 2010, 12:44:57 PM
Could you guys give Me an estimate on the time involved in disassembling the bike to seperate the frame??

doing it yourself?

1-2  weekends if you have all the right tools

Gimpy

#513
August 29, 2010, 09:18:15 PM
Personally, I'd take a little longer, and take my time so that it went back together more smoothly.  Document everything, label everything, and take pictures of everything.  I'm always so surprised how much I can forget over the course of a few weekends.  YMMV I'm sure there are folks that could put everything back from memory. But I sure can't.

DarkMonster620

#514
October 01, 2010, 03:10:48 PM
hey humorless dp,

can spray the underside of the dss with the thing they use to cover p'up beds? is rusting in some parts and will take off bike to repaint and wanted some added protection.

still undecided on what finish to give the dss, either polish/clear the steel or paint it 'black chrome' ... but underside needs the extra protection any way  i go ...
Carlos
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ducpainter

#515
October 01, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on October 01, 2010, 03:10:48 PM
hey humorless dp,

can spray the underside of the dss with the thing they use to cover p'up beds? is rusting in some parts and will take off bike to repaint and wanted some added protection.

still undecided on what finish to give the dss, either polish/clear the steel or paint it 'black chrome' ... but underside needs the extra protection any way  i go ...
Sure...why not?

I'd sandblast if you have rust/prime/paint then use the bedliner stuff.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


DarkMonster620

#516
October 01, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: humorless dp on October 01, 2010, 03:20:44 PM
Sure...why not?

I'd sandblast if you have rust/prime/paint then use the bedliner stuff.

thanks ... would you then recommend polishing it or going "black chrome"? i plan on applying it on the underside and on the little curve the dss makes on the sides so that when i put in the rear stand doesn't scratch the sides or should i take the opportunity to install spools?
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

ducpainter

#517
October 01, 2010, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on October 01, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
thanks ... would you then recommend polishing it or going "black chrome"? i plan on applying it on the underside and on the little curve the dss makes on the sides so that when i put in the rear stand doesn't scratch the sides or should i take the opportunity to install spools?
My take on polishing and then clearing bare steel is it isn't a sound process.

You would need to etch the steel to get good adhesion and that would ruin the polishing with discoloration.

If the black chrome uses a standard paint process meaning blast/prime/paint I'd suggest that.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


DarkMonster620

#518
October 01, 2010, 05:52:06 PM
Quote from: humorless dp on October 01, 2010, 04:05:56 PM
My take on polishing and then clearing bare steel is it isn't a sound process.

You would need to etch the steel to get good adhesion and that would ruin the polishing with discoloration.

If the black chrome uses a standard paint process meaning blast/prime/paint I'd suggest that.

then black chrome will be ...
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

S2daRk

#519
October 07, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
I'd like to put a coat of clear on my CF parts to keep them from fading.

Does anyone have experience with the U-POL 1K UV resistant aerosol?


Do you think the 2K clearcoat aerosols would be any better?


mojo

#520
October 08, 2010, 03:45:18 AM
If you have access to the 2K, I'd use that.  It will give you better chemical resistance, and durability.
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ducpainter

#521
October 08, 2010, 05:24:35 AM
Quote from: mojo on October 08, 2010, 03:45:18 AM
If you have access to the 2K, I'd use that.  It will give you better chemical resistance, and durability.
What he said... [thumbsup]
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


lazylightnin717

#522
December 06, 2010, 07:14:51 AM
DP: I plan on repainting my rearsets with a PPG urethane.

First and foremost: What would be the best way to prepare them? Looks like they were painted from the factory and are starting to oxidize. Paint stripper? Bead blast? Obviously clean well....

Will I need to prime the surface or is the paint a direct spray and play?
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ducpainter

#523
December 06, 2010, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: lazylightnin717 on December 06, 2010, 07:14:51 AM
DP: I plan on repainting my rearsets with a PPG urethane.

First and foremost: What would be the best way to prepare them? Looks like they were painted from the factory and are starting to oxidize. Paint stripper? Bead blast? Obviously clean well....

Will I need to prime the surface or is the paint a direct spray and play?
Best, and fastest way...

wash with solvent to remove road grime, bead blast (blow off dust, don't touch with bare hands), epoxy prime with PPG DP primer, and shoot wet on wet following label directions. PPG urethanes, I'm assuming you're using DCC, require primers.

HTH
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


lazylightnin717

#524
December 06, 2010, 06:48:46 PM
Welllllll..... I'm not sure what DCC is. I can tell you that the ratio we have been using is 8:6:1 and we've been applying it directly to steel. Would Vari-prime be an acceptable primer?

On a side note: I'm having some issues getting the large rubber grommets out of the rearsets. Is there any easy way of removing them? Will bead blasting them pregnant dog them up?
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