Ferrari 458 Italia

[Duck-Stew]

But the classic gated manual has to be an option for the faithful.

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[DoubleEagle]

I think the 911 is a dated design and would be a much better car if they made it a mid engine.  They would have to lose the rear seats if you can call them that but they could keep the same profile.  In my opinion the Cayman is a much better driving car and Porsche would win more races if they had a mid engine GT3 type car. 

I believe the 550 was a mid engine car the was homologated for the road and racing.

They sure won a lot of races with the 917 !.....1200 hp, mid engine, turbo charged.

Mark Donahue set a number of track speed records with that car , like 240 mph in it's day.

Lest we forget the venerable GT1 that won the 24 hours of Le Mans in it's 1st attempt as a mid engine car.

Dolph       

[DoubleEagle]

If that happens, and I don't think it will, then its time for me to look for a new job.  The Cayenne makes up half the cars we sell and service.  The Panamera will open up a huge new market for us, I think most of our allotment for 2010 has been pre sold already.  Porsche is a car manufacturer and they will build what sells. 

If that is the case , I guess I probably won't be getting a Panamera the 1st year.

Better get on the list for as soon as possible.

Dolph     

[DoubleEagle]

I think the 911 is a dated design and would be a much better car if they made it a mid engine.  They would have to lose the rear seats if you can call them that but they could keep the same profile.  In my opinion the Cayman is a much better driving car and Porsche would win more races if they had a mid engine GT3 type car. 

Remember the fuss the Porsche Pyles made when the 911 went from an air cooled engine to the present day water cooled one ?

They said it ruined the sound that made the 911 partly what it was about.

In my opinion I'd like to see a mid engine 911.

Dolph......

[DoubleEagle]

But then you have to associate with people like this: 

Wanted: Friends!!! - m4mm - 32 (marina / cow hollow)

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/stp/1358334612.html

Just moved back to the best neighborhood in the world, the MARINA, and am looking to meet some new friends with whom I can HANG. I appreciate the finer things in life….. think:

Gucci loafers
Paper Denim (though sometimes I'll drop Seven Jeans on some fools)
Ralph Lauren Black Label
Sea Smoke
Chicken Paillard
2/20
Toro
Mercedes S-Class all day. Valet only.

What I am looking for is people to drink with me during the week. I like hanging out at Balboa Cafe (I have my own table, and the servers know me by name), and sometimes by the fire at Matrix. I will pay for all the drinks and lamb pops with my Platinum. I just need some friends to hang out with and listen to me. I mostly like to talk about myself and my possessions, but will occasionally be willing to let you talk, but usually only if you talke about me, or how cool I am.

I've had 13 Porsches and never hung out with any other Porsche types. I wouldn't like being around the person described in this post.

I like fast bikes and fast cars and I like to go fast. I like to road race.......me against the road ...or against some other person willing to race.

It's like me and my " R ."

I get on it and go ride by myself and usually never even talk to anybody when I'm on it and only about 5 people outside this Forum know I even have it.

It's my thing and it doesn't make me better than other riders  ( except those that don't ride Ducatis ). 

Dolph       

[Bick]

Remember the fuss the Porsche Pyles made when the 911 went from an air cooled engine to the present day water cooled one ?

True.  Going to the water cooled engine, the 911 did seem to loose a lot of the character & soul, but how could they compete in the market by staying air-cooled?

In my opinion I'd like to see a mid engine 911.

That would make it a Cayman, wouldn't it?  

911 = rear-engine

[DoubleEagle]

Meh. Chop the top a bit. The windows are a little out of proportion with the rest of the car.  I love Dino's, 360's & F40/F50's. Most of Ferrari designs are really nice, but only a few really do it for me.  Mechanically they rock obviously, I would never turn down a Ferrari that some one wanted to give me - even the 400.

This has been about 8-9 years ago , whenever the 360 1st came out .

I was talking to the Service Mgr. of the Porsche- Ferrari- Maserati Dept., I had my Porsche in for something and I remember him telling me the 1st service for the 360 Ferrari was like $3200.

I used to go back in the Service area and I saw more late model Ferraris with no engines in them that were in for service , complete dashes out from where the Techs were looking for electrical gremlins.

Back then the shop rate was $120 per hour.

I was lucky to have a great relationship with the GM at the Dealership and I had bought over 20 cars from the same Salesman over a 15 year time frame , so one Saturday the Salesman gave me the keys to a Ferrari 465 GT that the Factory had dropped at the Dealership for a couple of days for Demo use.

I got to semi abuse it for an hour out on some nice two lane low traffic roads.

I can tell you, if some one gave you a Ferrari , more than likely it would eat your wallet with insurance and maintenance costs.

Dolph      

[DoubleEagle]

True.  Going to the water cooled engine, the 911 did seem to loose a lot of the character & soul, but how could they compete in the market by staying air-cooled?

That would make it a Cayman, wouldn't it?  

911 = rear-engine

It was done to meet emissions .

Dolph