Performance suggestions for my S4

Started by fouramdesigns, February 02, 2010, 08:06:21 AM

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junior varsity

Don't pc the forks - makes installation a pregnant dog with the increased diameter and risk of scratching. Vinyl wrap or anodize!

Also, I'm a big fan of upgrading the internals - race tech or full cartridge internals would be more effective than some R&T forks, imo.

fouramdesigns

Ok. So Race Tech internals, anodized. 
What's needed to change to a bar style instead of the odd S4 one piece clip-ons? I'm all ramped up now. Almost sold my bike tonight for $3k, I would have hated myself. I'm seeing this project through
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

junior varsity

Another option, besides RaceTech, could be Traxxion's internals (or full cartridge kits).

The full cartridge kit is essentially replacing the fork, except the exterior tube, slider, and lower  (meaning there's no problems with finding correct axles and brake adapters, etc). Its a very nice way to improve the package.

Traxxion has 20 or 25mm internal kits, and even offer gas charged.
RaceTech has a G2-R 25mm kit
Ohlins has a 25mm and a new 30mm (iirc). You can always have the forks anodized Gold to alert everyone to its ohlins-ness.

fouramdesigns

Wonder if anyone in Nashville anodizes?
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

junior varsity

#34
Check out that chopper shop near the museum, a block or so away from Alain's shop. Around that 90deg right turn. They may provide some leads.

MonsterMan1036

Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 09, 2010, 04:33:41 AM
Wonder if anyone in Nashville anodizes?

Try Dan Kyle racing (http://www.kyleusa.com), he can anodizes your forks and put Ohlins internals in. He had some pretty great deals going with revale kits and rear shock combos.

I would also check with LE, http://www.le-suspension.com.

Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 08, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
What's needed to change to a bar style instead of the odd S4 one piece clip-ons?

You are going to need to change the top triple completely and get clip ons.

Option (good choice if parts are available [roll]):

http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1204%7CMonster&productID=6435&showDetail=1&categoryID=45

http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1204%7CMonster&productID=4069&showDetail=1&categoryID=45


Here is my setup (CC clip ons, Alex Ortner custom top triple, Speedymoto lower, DP dampener):




Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 08, 2010, 05:06:38 PM
Ok, so I am mulling the BST wheels. You guy's really believe in the performance vs cost ratio over piston/cams? What would my red Marchesini's be worth? Thoughts on Ohlins forks? I want performance, and would help cosmetics as well. Or would I be better of saving money with Race Tech and have the forks powder coated?

I thought you posted that you had Mag wheels? If you have stock wheels the difference is going to be night and day. I think a fair price for your stock wheels would be $600-800.00, if you call Motowheels they will give you trade in towards a set of BST's.

Alex Ortner 1036CS
1036 Foggy Monster (sold)
Commonwealth 848 track bike
1199 Tri

Duck-Stew

Just for clarification, be sure to get your fork tubes hard anodized and not just anodized.  BIG difference.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

fouramdesigns

Anyone have the link for that smaller battery? The midget one, that's tiny? Saves weight
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

MonsterMan1036

Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 09, 2010, 07:37:01 AM
Anyone have the link for that smaller battery? The midget one, that's tiny? Saves weight

Here you go SpeedCell:

http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=915%7CBatteries%20and%20Battery%20Accessories&productID=6814&showDetail=1&categoryID=915

Whatever you do don't get an Odyssey bat, they are junk. The 3 that I have a had, have come new in the box with 65% or less life.
Alex Ortner 1036CS
1036 Foggy Monster (sold)
Commonwealth 848 track bike
1199 Tri

fouramdesigns

I rather have a big fat Rizoma bar instead of clip-ons. What's needed for that swap? Going for an old cafe look.
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

tonkoshala

Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 09, 2010, 10:34:18 AM
I rather have a big fat Rizoma bar instead of clip-ons. What's needed for that swap? Going for an old cafe look.

I have a bar and adapters that bolt right up to the S4 triple. Not sure who made them, but they work great. I thought about doing the swap, but I like the look feel and adjustablity of the clipons. Lemme know if you interested I'll send you a pic.

fouramdesigns

2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

Punx Clever

If the s4's forks are 50mm... i'll sell you my stock s2r 1000 top triple with bar mounts for cheap... have it annod or pc whatever color you want and add whatever 1-1/8" bars you want.
2008 S2R 1000 - Archangel

The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.  - HST

junior varsity

#43
That would only work if the S4 steering stem diameter and offset size were also the same. I think it is, but I'm not certain. There is a change from 01 to 02 bikes.

Punx Clever

That's true... i'm not sure if it will fit, but if it will  [thumbsup]
2008 S2R 1000 - Archangel

The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.  - HST