Performance suggestions for my S4

Started by fouramdesigns, February 02, 2010, 08:06:21 AM

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Duck-Stew

Words of wisdom from a moto-X racer in the 70's (sorry...but I don't remember who it was):

There's nothing lighter than a hole.



Go buy a drill and drill set.  [thumbsup]
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

junior varsity

If you've got money burning a hole in your pocket, here's some thoughts:

ETI Fuel-Cel
BST Wheels
Lightweight Carbon Ceramic Rotors
Billet Calipers
Billet triple set
Nichols Flywheel
Lightweight Clutch (hub/basket/plates/pressureplate)
Racetech Internal for forks, or Traxxion/RaceTech/Ohlins cartridge kit
Upgraded rear shock
Damper
Quick(er) turn throttle tube

Ditch all the abs plastic on the bike and replace it with carbon fiber parts (headlight bucket, mounting brackets, etc), some of these you would have to make yourself (such as the airbox/battery tray, undertail area, etc). Remove unnecessary brackets and other parts, and replace with lightweight counterparts if possible.

fouramdesigns

#62
Good tips. I have CF fender, hugger, side panels, various pieces. Billet Rizoma belt covers.
Hoping with my itemized items for taxes, I'll get a nice chunk back and can get the BST's soon.
Then on to the ailing clutch, then paint, then tank, weight reduction, triple, suspension etc.
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

Duck-Stew

How about ditch the ABS plastic and ...don't replace it with anything. 

Remember:  air is cheaper than CF and weighs less too.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

Duck-Stew

Here's a thought:

Run 1 Carbon-ceramic disc mated up to a 4-piston/4-pad SBK caliper w/some premium pads.  Saves the weight and you'd only have to equip the bike with 1 of each.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

fouramdesigns

#65
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 11, 2010, 06:05:48 AM
Here's a thought:

Run 1 Carbon-ceramic disc mated up to a 4-piston/4-pad SBK caliper w/some premium pads.  Saves the weight and you'd only have to equip the bike with 1 of each.
Parts/links? Stew, thanks for taking so much time to help me out, and keeping me from blowing a wad on useless crap.
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

Duck-Stew

Rotor:

http://www.braketech.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=95

Caliper:

http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=20.7850.11

I couldn't find which pad on the braketech site would work best w/the CMC rotor but you can contact them to see what's up....

Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

fouramdesigns

#67
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 11, 2010, 06:31:36 AM
Rotor:

http://www.braketech.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=95

Caliper:

http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=20.7850.11

I couldn't find which pad on the braketech site would work best w/the CMC rotor but you can contact them to see what's up....


Great, thanks. So let me make sure I'm following. Replace one rotor/caliper front/back, instead of the duals on now?

Can I remove the airbox, use stacks/filters with my current setup?
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

Duck-Stew

You'd be replacing two heavy, moderate quality brakes on the front of the bike for one extremely good brake which would likely equal the performance of the old setup while reducing unsprung weight.


Pods to remove the air-box?  Yes you can do it but it will require re-mapping the air/fuel ratio, likely a piggy-back efi controller (Power-Commander III is a popular one) and a trip to a shop that can re-program the bike for you.
Bike-less Portuguese immigrant enjoying life.

fouramdesigns

Ok, hm, may be more trouble than it's worth to remove airbox. Hell I will have almost $14K in this when I'm done.lol Pay to play
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

fouramdesigns

Nick at Motowheels said $3300 plus freight for BST's. Sound right for board members? Someone on here told me $2800 they paid
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

junior varsity

Sounds about right. It depends on the market as well as the bike.

fouramdesigns

#72
May keep a watch out. use Google search feature to email me anytime that models mentioned for sale.

Found some for $2K, for an RR, can't be modded to fit?
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over

MonsterMan1036

Quote from: fouramdesigns on February 11, 2010, 08:58:43 AM
Nick at Motowheels said $3300 plus freight for BST's. Sound right for board members? Someone on here told me $2800 they paid

How much in trade did they say they would give you for your wheels?
Alex Ortner 1036CS
1036 Foggy Monster (sold)
Commonwealth 848 track bike
1199 Tri

fouramdesigns

Quote from: MonsterMan1036 on February 11, 2010, 10:42:14 AM
How much in trade did they say they would give you for your wheels?
Didn't ask, thought best to move here or Craigslist
2001 Monster S4, Termignoni/ECU, DP short air box w/BMC filter, Rizoma Zero's front/back, Cookie tail chop, Rizoma belt covers, Evoluzione slave, CF all over