Marine Scout Snipers

[ducpainter]

damn good shooting but, its not a military .308, its a custom hand loaded and hand prepared round threw a custom rifle that probably only sees the light of day if the wind is below 1 mph and humidity is in the best range possible. he has a device to ultrasound his bullets to make sure the jackets are all perfect, he weighs each load to exact, and I mean EXACT load, he's dialed the extreme spread to 7fps  .  I don't think there is anything he could do to get more accuracy out of the rifle. I don't think a military spec'd rifle is any where near that level or accuracy. it's just not needed.

That is my point.

[sno_duc]

damn good shooting but, its not a military .308, its a custom hand loaded and hand prepared round threw a custom rifle that probably only sees the light of day if the wind is below 1 mph and humidity is in the best range possible. he has a device to ultrasound his bullets to make sure the jackets are all perfect, he weighs each load to exact, and I mean EXACT load, he's dialed the extreme spread to 7fps  .  I don't think there is anything he could do to get more accuracy out of the rifle. I don't think a military spec'd rifle is any where near that level or accuracy. it's just not needed.

I thought we were talking about 'snipers'. They don't use off the shelf mil-spec rifles, their rifle are hand worked bolt actions, see M24.
And they dont use M59 / M80 ball, more like M118LR / M852 in 7.62x51 or M1 in .30-06

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x51mm_NATO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-06_Springfield
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M24_Sniper_Weapon_Systemhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M24_Sniper_Weapon_System


I've got a good friend that used to shoot benchrest rifles, you missed reaming the primer hole, CCing each case for powder cap, reaming the neck, weighing each empty case, and checking the round-out in V-blocks of each finished round. About 1 out of a hundred pieces of brass make the cut.

[badgalbetty]

like I said earlier, i'd just be happy if you would not hit the seat!

[Popeye the Sailor]

like I said earlier, i'd just be happy if you would not hit the seat!

Paint a bulls-eye in the bowl and we'll talk.

[fastwin]

Benchrest vs real world/long range/sniper/combat shooting are not even on the same planet. Not that I have done either one or I am good at long range shooting, it just isn't the same thing. Just basic shooting stuff. Their paths will never cross. At least that's my uneducated opinion.

On a good day I could at least hit the bulls eye in the toilet bowl! Maybe...

[redxblack]

dime at 100 yards, I could do with my HMR on a really calm day.. it would probably take about 20 rounds but I'd hit it.

at 200 yards I couldn't afford a scope that could see that, nor a rifle that could shoot that well (whats that like .2MOA at 200?)

at 600 yards, very much impossible, unless it was a laser rifle with hubble sitting on top.

she must have meant 600 ft. It's a sweet story nonetheless.

[Major Slow]

curious I went out to a shooting site and they had a thread on a gentleman trying to get better at long distance shooting.

one poster stated "10 shots into 3 inches at 600 is pretty good. It takes a full benchrest setup to beat that."

so you could get about 400 dimes in a 3 in² square. shoot 10 times you would have 10 dimes mol with at least some part hit by the bullet.

I have no idea how large the bullet is or whether it would obliterate the dime. But I guess that if I wanted that particular souvenir I might be willing to invest a couple of bucks to see if I could acheive it. ( you can return any dime not destroyed for its full value ). I'm guessing the loads cost more than 10 cents apeice.



http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1641487&page=1

[Speedbag]

Paint a bulls-eye in the bowl and we'll talk.

Yeah.....that's not gonna make a real big difference, I'm afraid.

[Grappa]

I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.  They're not much bigger than two meters.   

[Kopfjäger]

From 600 yds?

[Kopfjäger]

Modern Snipers on Mil channel. No dime shots at  600 yfs

[redxblack]

This guy could hit it.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html

[fastwin]

Holy shit! That's one badass Finn. Don't f#@k with someone's home country, it tends to piss the locals off.

[redxblack]

I was telling someone about Simo Häyhä and they didn't believe such a person existed.



Badass!

[Vindingo]

This guy could hit it.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html

I can't belive the person that wrote that article is 29 years old.  I reads like a 15 year old wrote it... funny none the less