brake indicator not working

Started by NoisyDante, March 22, 2010, 05:23:38 PM

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NoisyDante

I just installed a Motodynamics integrated taillight, but the brake indicator is not functioning, back or front levers.  Admittedly it was also not working with the Clear Alternatives light that was on before, but I thought the light itself was broken, hence replacing it.

Any ideas on where to look to troubleshoot this?

Also, there's an extra wire coming out of the harness which I am not sure what it's for, and it's not included on the install sheet . . . it's the connection I'm holding in the bottom left of the photo, what is its purpose?


'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

lazarus7

ummmmmmmmmm, thats the brake light wire....... [bang] [clap]

what youve got wired up now are the signals....
that lead plugs into the lightbulb lead/ brakelight lead on clear alternatives, etc...

"...the greatest artists indulge in a 'culpable rivalry' with God."     Stanislas Fumet

lazarus7

....basically thees 3 circuits, whether stock or clear alternatives....
Left, Right, and Running light/ Brake light....
need to find the plug end on your clear alternatives for the brakelight...
just plugged right into the factory socket on mine...
"...the greatest artists indulge in a 'culpable rivalry' with God."     Stanislas Fumet

lazarus7

see the brakelight/ running light plugs in the center....?
factory fitting.....
perhaps yous is just bare wire....

"...the greatest artists indulge in a 'culpable rivalry' with God."     Stanislas Fumet

NoisyDante

Well that's what I suspected, but what I'm confused about is I followed the installation directions, and the turn signals function properly.

The Clear Alternatives light was installed when I got it, so if the harness was modified I wouldn't know.

So I should just figure out which one of those circuits corresponds to the running light and it'll go into that socket?  
'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

lazarus7

yup......
its pretty obvious by physically looking at the unit....
left to left side, right to right, center is brake/ running....

hmmm and the more i think about it, i think they share common ground,
so each signal has one connection and the ground goes to the brake....
looks like it in my pic of the clear alternatives, but of course yours may be different...
been a while since i did mine, have to pull the seat and look to refresh my memory...
"...the greatest artists indulge in a 'culpable rivalry' with God."     Stanislas Fumet

stopintime

It seems like you've got the L-spades mixed up?

The thing you're holding in your hand is the license plate light rubber bulb holder.
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NoisyDante

Here's the install schema I followed, I feel like I'm missing something.

'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

NoisyDante

This from the site as well:

Park/Brake:
1. Unplug 3 connections from back of
factory tail light

2. Connect to LED tail light with the
following configuration:
Black - Black
Grey/Red - White
Yellow - Red

Note: Color may differ on various models
'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

lazarus7

in your pic, are your red and yellow leads reversed......?
"...the greatest artists indulge in a 'culpable rivalry' with God."     Stanislas Fumet

NoisyDante

I don't think so, the yellow stock wire seems to go to the red Moto wire.  The stock wire is not entirely red, it's red/gray.
'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

stopintime

Quote from: lazarus7 on March 22, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
in your pic, are your red and yellow leads reversed......?


Not according to MotoDynamic, but according to us :)
Try reversing the two leads = grey/red to red and yellow to white. $10 says it'll work right [thumbsup]
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NoisyDante

Quote from: stopintime on March 22, 2010, 06:51:09 PM
Not according to MotoDynamic, but according to us :)

And that's why I keep comin back here  [thumbsup]

I'll try that momentarily.
'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

NoisyDante

Quote from: stopintime on March 22, 2010, 06:51:09 PM
Try reversing the two leads = grey/red to red and yellow to white.

No dice, didn't have any affect.  I did try another combination but that turned the running light off entirely.
'07 695 Dark - Quat-D Ex Box exhaust, gold S4 forks, Woodcraft Clipons, CRG levers, KTM headlight, Motodynamics taillight, 14t sprocket, CRG LS mirrors, flamethrower, the usual refinements.  * struck down by a hippie in a Prius on September 22nd, 2010.

stopintime

I'm out of ideas. You probably have to get in there with a test tool to find out if you have a broken connection elsewhere. Unless, of course, you can find a broken fuse....
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