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zarn02

#1965
September 23, 2011, 11:26:40 AM
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

ducatiz

#1966
September 23, 2011, 11:27:57 AM
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ducpainter

#1967
September 23, 2011, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: fastwin on September 23, 2011, 08:30:29 AM
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zarn02

#1968
September 23, 2011, 11:39:56 AM
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

Monsterlover

#1969
September 23, 2011, 12:46:05 PM
Interesting.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#1970
September 23, 2011, 03:37:50 PM
PCA is very interesting for some uses but the big problem for me is that they are not reloadable which means they are junk.  Even berdan steel case stuff is spellable for scrap.
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Monsterlover

#1971
September 23, 2011, 04:58:51 PM
I wonder what the weight is compared to brass
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ducatiz

#1972
September 23, 2011, 05:08:56 PM
The 5.56 PCA is about half the weight of brass.  Definitely an advantage for the soldier.
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Monsterlover

#1973
September 23, 2011, 05:30:00 PM
Not to mention shipping skids of the stuff to the field.
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zarn02

#1974
September 25, 2011, 11:27:26 PM
"If it weren't for our gallows humor, we'd have nothing to hang our hopes on."

ducatiz

#1975
September 26, 2011, 06:00:57 AM
Quote from: zarn02 on September 25, 2011, 11:27:26 PM
And hot on the heels of the pistol cases...

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/09/26/pcp-polymer-cased-rifle-ammunition/

PCA has been around for about 16years, I am not sure why this is new news.  DoD was testing 5.56 PCA when I was in Israel
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WarrenJ

#1976
September 26, 2011, 06:05:37 AM


Here is a pic of a Voere 22 cal caseless cartridge out of my collection.  Performance is supposed to be about like a 223.  It is electrically primed and the primer is consumed during firing.

Voere made a bolt action rifle for this round.  H&K experimented with a caseless military rifle and round for a while that fed like the FN 90 but with no ejection worries. 

The major problem with these rounds is that they are a bit fragile.

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ducatiz

#1977
September 26, 2011, 06:07:28 AM
Quote from: WarrenJ on September 26, 2011, 06:05:37 AM


The major problem with these rounds is that they are a bit fragile.

fragile..

susceptible to moisture..

lower resistance to spontaneous combustion...

it's an interesting concept, but not one i'd like to carry around in a pocket
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WarrenJ

#1978
September 26, 2011, 06:18:40 AM
iirc, these were supposed to be able to handle a week of water immersion.  Of course that does not take into consideration agitation or abrasion, etc.  Interesting concept but not ready for prime time.
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ducatiz

#1979
September 26, 2011, 06:20:43 AM
Quote from: WarrenJ on September 26, 2011, 06:18:40 AM
iirc, these were supposed to be able to handle a week of water immersion.  Of course that does not take into consideration agitation or abrasion, etc.  Interesting concept but not ready for prime time.

how would that translate into exposure to humidity + abuse etc.  brass or polymer cased can stand far more than a week.  definitely not ready for prime time or ever in my book.

plus, what happens when your battery dies?  too many variables.  maybe they can put a dyno crank on the rifle, like on those radios.  lol
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