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« Reply #4260 on: January 16, 2013, 02:51:29 PM »
Quote from: Monsterlover on January 16, 2013, 01:47:04 PM
Why is lead trickier?
It's somewhat limited as to powders that are really suitable because it requires lower speeds, and if you don't have the right expanding die the bullet will start crooked and shave material on the edge of the case which will kill accuracy. You also should slug your bore to make sure the bullets you buy are sized properly. They need to be .001 larger than the rifling.

Add that if you use a FCD incorrectly for a lead bullet as opposed to a taper crimp die you could re-size the bullet and make it too small for the bore.
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« Reply #4261 on: January 16, 2013, 02:54:32 PM »
I haven't seen this variation of family representation on the back window of any vehicles until today.   I like the little two-fisted gunslinger in the middle  Wink


The family that shoots together, stays together:
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« Reply #4262 on: January 16, 2013, 03:08:27 PM »
Quote from: Stella on January 16, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
I haven't seen this variation of family representation on the back window of any vehicles until today.   I like the little two-fisted gunslinger in the middle  Wink


The family that shoots together, stays together:


 waytogo and  laughingdp

but mostly  waytogo waytogo waytogo waytogo
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« Reply #4263 on: January 16, 2013, 05:13:32 PM »
Okay, this is madness.

eBay auction for a pair (2) ten round magazines USED.

60 bids

Winning bid $482.00

 Huh? Shocked

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-10-round-223-5-56-magazines-/221177061956?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=oHcIcPtRlSXpkxwrOK30KR7mHz8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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« Reply #4264 on: January 16, 2013, 05:37:32 PM »
Holy crap
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« Reply #4265 on: January 16, 2013, 05:38:48 PM »
Quote from: NorDog on January 16, 2013, 05:13:32 PM
Okay, this is madness.

eBay auction for a pair (2) ten round magazines USED.

60 bids

Winning bid $482.00

 Huh? Shocked

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-10-round-223-5-56-magazines-/221177061956?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&nma=true&si=oHcIcPtRlSXpkxwrOK30KR7mHz8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I'll sell em 10 30rd mags for that coin. What a dumbass.
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« Reply #4266 on: January 16, 2013, 05:41:10 PM »
Quote from: kopfjäger on January 16, 2013, 05:38:48 PM
I'll sell em 10 30rd mags for that coin. What a dumbass.

lol  I was going to say.  Might be time to sell off some of these extras that I've got laying around...
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« Reply #4267 on: January 16, 2013, 05:46:15 PM »
The dumbass season is among us. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4268 on: January 16, 2013, 08:23:35 PM »
Well, if anyone has a few 10 round mags they want to sell for a decent price please let me know.  I only have the one mag that came with my rifle.  And here in California 10 round mags are the legal limit.
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« Reply #4269 on: January 16, 2013, 09:27:40 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on January 16, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
That's about the top of the limit for a single stage press.

An inexpensive way to get into it would be to go with a Lee Classic turret which should be capable of your needs and then some.

This place is the only outfit that offers that press in a kit... http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/23840

Of course they're out of stock...people are going way past panic, and the system is overloaded. You can build your own kit by buying what's included. You'd also need a pair of 6" calipers, dies for the calibers you want to reload, a kinetic hammer to pull bullets when you make the inevitable mistake, as well as some books. The ABC's of reloading is a good resource for the basics, and the Lyman #49 manual has loads for almost every bullet and powder.

You might want to try and find components before you buy a press. They are scarce. I'd recommend starting with plated or jacketed projectiles. Lead is trickier and isn't the best choice for a beginner without someone to show you the ropes, IMO.

Thanks for the info. I'm still doing a price comparison between a progressive and single stage rig. My goal is to do a full pricing analysis and share that with the class.
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« Reply #4270 on: January 17, 2013, 06:49:08 AM »
Quote from: sugarcrook on January 16, 2013, 09:27:40 PM
Thanks for the info. I'm still doing a price comparison between a progressive and single stage rig. My goal is to do a full pricing analysis and share that with the class.

I can't imagine any good reason to get a single stage setup.

I want the Dillon 550 press.  400 rounds per hour.  I have a 50 lbs box of 7.62nato projectiles i bought ages ago just waiting for the day...

Single stage setup?  400 rounds per month.
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« Reply #4271 on: January 17, 2013, 12:42:22 PM »
Single stage is good for experimenting.

Want to change something like powder charge, or bullet seat depth?  It's easy with a single stage.

I want the 550 as well.  Production, baby!
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« Reply #4272 on: January 17, 2013, 01:08:03 PM »
Quote from: Monsterlover on January 17, 2013, 12:42:22 PM
Single stage is good for experimenting.

Want to change something like powder charge, or bullet seat depth?  It's easy with a single stage.

I want the 550 as well.  Production, baby!

gotcha.. i would probably not experiment too much, just find good load profiles and make a shitload of them.
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« Reply #4273 on: January 17, 2013, 01:39:54 PM »
I love these commercials!
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« Reply #4274 on: January 17, 2013, 03:29:40 PM »
Quote from: ducatiz on January 17, 2013, 06:49:08 AM
I can't imagine any good reason to get a single stage setup.

I want the Dillon 550 press.  400 rounds per hour.  I have a 50 lbs box of 7.62nato projectiles i bought ages ago just waiting for the day...

Single stage setup?  400 rounds per month.
400 rounds a month is pretty low.

I can do 100 rounds/hour on my single stage.

That said, who doesn't want a Dillon?
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