GUN STUFF

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Quote from: ducatiz on August 04, 2011, 05:00:01 AM
yeah, our lucky bastard neighbors up north still get the Norinco stuff..    www.marstar.ca

all of the fun Norinco stuff stopped in either 89 or 94.  I used to have a Norinco M14, and sold it to Walk Kuleck, of all people..  



I hear Kuleck severed his relationship with Clint over at Fulton Armory....must have been taking a beating pimping and shilling for him
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ducatiz

No!  Really?  What was the complaint abt Clint?
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Soft bolts and brittle receivers
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Quote from: RAT900 on August 04, 2011, 06:35:51 AM
Soft bolts and brittle receivers

That's ridiculous.  Those receivers were investment cast and should absolutely not be brittle unless the hardening process wasn't done correctly -- they don't do those in-house either.

Springfields current M1A receivers are investment cast in the same way, as are ALL of Ruger's guns now.  They need to have a chat with their QA. 

The bolts are another issue.  There is a history of soft bolts on a variety of makes.  The biggest complaint about the Polytech/Norinco M14s was soft bolts.  Their receivers though -- wow. Probably the best made except for the original US armory stuff.
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Quote from: ducatiz on August 04, 2011, 07:19:16 AM
That's ridiculous.  Those receivers were investment cast and should absolutely not be brittle unless the hardening process wasn't done correctly -- they don't do those in-house either.

Springfields current M1A receivers are investment cast in the same way, as are ALL of Ruger's guns now.  They need to have a chat with their QA. 

The bolts are another issue.  There is a history of soft bolts on a variety of makes.  The biggest complaint about the Polytech/Norinco M14s was soft bolts.  Their receivers though -- wow. Probably the best made except for the original US armory stuff.

I think he may have been having some QC issues with whomever he is using for Heat-Treat/ Case Hardening....brittle is over-cooking and soft well as you know under-cooking...

but the receiver complaint could also have been due to a bad pour...like there was a graining in the alloy and the leg snapped along the grain when the guy dropped it onto his work bench

IIRC mil-spec case hardening for bolts and receivers was .0012-.0018

it was beaten thoroughly over on the TFL M14 site

I am about a 15 minute drive over to LRB so all my receiver purchases are hammer-forged....and done right

it is nice when personal quality principles and convenience intersect
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I love the LRB receivers but $$$$ wow..

I have a complete USGI parts kit -- NIW.  I just need a barreled receiver for it.  Sarco had some a while back (ohhhh,, like 5 years?)....  and I want a double lugged model so I am in line for $$$$$$.some day..
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RAT900

Don't bother with a double-lug...the rear lug only is fine....

when you add the front lug it becomes a tuning nightmare getting the pressure right between the fore-lug and the rear....

the rear lug alone will get you extra life and match time out of your bedding job

anyway the whole key to accuracy with those confounding rifles is a stable receiver bedding, a good barrel

with a flawless relationship established between the front band's lip and the stock ferule

with the right amount of pressure/tension on the barrel

only other trick worth trying is playing with (shortening) the length of the gas piston stem 

to increase the dwell/delay time before the piston hits the op-rod face

there's a lot of moving junk hung on those barrels, the longer you can keep it quiet/or still,,,, the better the bullet launch   :)
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ducatiz

I have an old Springfield "Bush" rifle..Probably 1970-75 or so. They came with a funky folding stock, I have never seen another one like it.  The muzzle device is different from the M1A.

I'll post pics, to this day, only a dozen people have even heard of them.  They were a one year deal.  Springfield INC has made a sort of tribute to them with the "Socom" model, but mine doesn't have the scope mount or the whiz-bang muzzle device.  But it does have that weirdo folding stock.  I think they were copied by Choate later on.
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Quote from: ducatiz on August 07, 2011, 05:50:59 AM
I have an old Springfield "Bush" rifle..Probably 1970-75 or so. They came with a funky folding stock, I have never seen another one like it.  The muzzle device is different from the M1A.

I'll post pics, to this day, only a dozen people have even heard of them.  They were a one year deal.  Springfield INC has made a sort of tribute to them with the "Socom" model, but mine doesn't have the scope mount or the whiz-bang muzzle device.  But it does have that weirdo folding stock.  I think they were copied by Choate later on.

do post some photos...is it a pre-Geneseo rifle?
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Exactly.  they commissioned a folder stock and used the short barrel.  I think the only other differences are the NM sights and the short muzzle device.
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Quote from: ducatiz on August 07, 2011, 11:01:25 AM
Exactly.  they commissioned a folder stock and used the short barrel.  I think the only other differences are the NM sights and the short muzzle device.

Is it a Devine Tx. marked barrel or Radium Tx?....that is indeed a pretty rare specimen esp so if it is Devine marked...or even Radium marked

PICTURES!!
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