HELP!! Engine start problem!!

Started by dwu819, June 27, 2010, 09:57:44 AM

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Grrrly

#45
when was the bike out in the pouring rain again?  

My 2002 620 or 900 always had this problem after the bike got heavily rained on.  
Try taking the gauges off and bringing them indoors to dry out thoroughly.  I know this doesn't sound high-tech... but it's the only thing that worked for me at the time.

Since then I've had my bike re-wired to run with a 2001 pre-immobilizer ECU.

FYI I'm also in NYC.
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Drunken Monkey

Slightly off topic:

Does anyone, anywhere have a story where the immobilizer actually saved their bike from being stolen?

Personally, I'd pay the $250 to get the ECU reflashed and eliminate the immobilizer. While it might be the other issues (antenna, water) there's no guarantee those fixes will work, and the problem won't happen again.

Whereas the ECU reflash will work and the problem won't be back.
I own several motorcycles. I have owned lots of motorcycles. And have bolted and/or modified lots of crap to said motorcycles...

He Man

The blinking light and disc lock alarm makes ppl think i have some crazy security system on it, and i park in the projects all the time.  I dont have a steering tube lock anymore either. so maybe it does.

Pakhan

Quote from: Drunken Monkey on July 02, 2010, 07:34:31 AM
Slightly off topic:

Does anyone, anywhere have a story where the immobilizer actually saved their bike from being stolen?

Personally, I'd pay the $250 to get the ECU reflashed and eliminate the immobilizer. While it might be the other issues (antenna, water) there's no guarantee those fixes will work, and the problem won't happen again.

Whereas the ECU reflash will work and the problem won't be back.

Hard to say, if anyone saw a person messing with their bike they probably wouldn't wait to see if they got stumped by the immobilizer.  I would guess no though, the typical bike thefts I know of they toss your bike in a truck and strip it later.
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TrevOwnz

#49
Had a similar problem once. My bike wouldn't turn over at all so my friend said it's the battery buy a new one so I did and still nothing. So I decided to look online and it said to follow the battery cables down to the starter relay which didn't have that white plug in. So I pushed the plug in and it started but then the negative on my battery started smoking which was because the starter relay was touching metal.

You could put a screw driver across the relay to start the bike and if it starts the relay is shorted out (make sure you're not in gear or the bike will take off)

Here is what the starter relay looks like. The two bottom things is where the white plug should go. To start the bike with a screw driver, remove the plastic on the black wires and touch a screw driver from one bolt to the other. Be careful a small spark will happen. Easy way to test the relay is bad or good.

1999 Ducati Monster 750

dwu819

Ok people! Back to town! Gotta figure this out..

I'm gonna try swap attenna from a friend's GT 1000.

Is there anything I need to be aware of?

I think I need to disconnect the wires in order to take the attenna off from the bike right?

Will it trigger the immobilizer and lock my friend's bike up?

Just wanna be more carefull. I don't wanna screw my friend's bike ???

dwu819

Quote from: TrevOwnz on July 04, 2010, 01:05:05 PM
Had a similar problem once. My bike wouldn't turn over at all so my friend said it's the battery buy a new one so I did and still nothing. So I decided to look online and it said to follow the battery cables down to the starter relay which didn't have that white plug in. So I pushed the plug in and it started but then the negative on my battery started smoking which was because the starter relay was touching metal.

You could put a screw driver across the relay to start the bike and if it starts the relay is shorted out (make sure you're not in gear or the bike will take off)

Here is what the starter relay looks like. The two bottom things is where the white plug should go. To start the bike with a screw driver, remove the plastic on the black wires and touch a screw driver from one bolt to the other. Be careful a small spark will happen. Easy way to test the relay is bad or good.



I'll also try this tomorrow and report what happens! Thx!

erichan8757

according to the person, the bike starts again.
he just left the bike there for a few days, and the 100 degree
NYC sun has cured the disease

there must me some water deposit in one of the electrical compartments

well. lucky him. but still not sure what the problem was.

07 GT1000
06 M620, [SOLD]
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