The PCV with Autotune thread......

Started by ungeheuer, September 02, 2010, 04:20:57 AM

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Johnny5

Quote from: metroplex on June 20, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
If you remove the O2 sensors and closed loop operation, and just get a clean fuel map, how are you controlling the AFR during cruise conditions (essentially the range of cells in the fuel map that was previously controlled in closed loop) without Autotune?
Yeah I'm thinking since I have a good dyno guy close by that is a PC guru I would leave the AT out of the equation, just have him custom tune it with the PC5 after removing the O2 sensors from the map.
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Raux

The Rexxer builds a new map right onto the main ECU sans O2.

You can either have the tuner build the custom map on the rexxer if they have that capability, which few do, or you reflash with the standard Rexxer map and then customize the PCV for you bike.

it's not like the ecu is going to go haywire looking for the o2 to decide how much fuel. that's what the rexxer map fixes.




ungeheuer

Quote from: Johnny5 on June 20, 2013, 08:23:51 AM
Yeah I'm thinking since I have a good dyno guy close by that is a PC guru I would leave the AT out of the equation, just have him custom tune it with the PC5 after removing the O2 sensors from the map.
A good idea for metroplex too IMO (which I suggested to him days ago). 

Quote from: Raux on June 20, 2013, 10:10:08 AM
The Rexxer builds a new map right onto the main ECU sans O2.

You can either have the tuner build the custom map on the rexxer if they have that capability, which few do, or you reflash with the standard Rexxer map and then customize the PCV for you bike.

it's not like the ecu is going to go haywire looking for the o2 to decide how much fuel. that's what the rexxer map fixes.
And whilst this is true, its already addressed in other general ECU tuning threads. 

Quote from: metroplex on June 20, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
If you remove the O2 sensors and closed loop operation, and just get a clean fuel map, how are you controlling the AFR during cruise conditions (essentially the range of cells in the fuel map that was previously controlled in closed loop) without Autotune?
You have already posted in the thread which answers this question mate.  I suggest you read it.  All.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=41934.135


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wip3out8oy

Hello everyone, I'm new to this so I'll introduce myself a little bit. I'm from England and I've got a 2009 Monster 1100s (I do get it out when it's dry only, which is often  [coffee]). I've done a fair bit of work to it most recently I've installed the Autonue kit with the PVC and had the stock ECU Rexxer flashed. I've also taken out the stock air intake box and replaced it with velocity stack pods (like the WASP PUK, it is infact the TPO Beast-R).

My question is, since the beginning of this thread does anyone have a suitably well configured AFR Table? Since this thread was started PowerCommander/Dynojet still haven't configured anything.

Any help would be great  [thumbsup]
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EEL

I'll make it simple for you cuz I asked this same question 2 months ago.

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ungeheuer

Quote from: wip3out8oy on February 24, 2015, 08:13:08 AM
Hello everyone, I'm new to this so I'll introduce myself a little bit. I'm from England and I've got a 2009 Monster 1100s (I do get it out when it's dry only, which is often  [coffee]). I've done a fair bit of work to it most recently I've installed the Autonue kit with the PVC and had the stock ECU Rexxer flashed. I've also taken out the stock air intake box and replaced it with velocity stack pods (like the WASP PUK, it is infact the TPO Beast-R).

My question is, since the beginning of this thread does anyone have a suitably well configured AFR Table? Since this thread was started PowerCommander/Dynojet still haven't configured anything.

Any help would be great  [thumbsup]
Yup, your setup is near identical to mine (although you don't mention what exhaust you're running). 

Here again is the AFR table I arrived at (and have been happily running with for a couple of years (?) now:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8GYk44zAjpmZGRiZjJkZmItZTIyZC00MTkzLTlkZjAtNjRhYTliOTA0ZTYy/view?pli=1

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koko64

Really enjoyed re-reading this thread.
Good work fellas.
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technoracer

#142
Quote from: koko64 on February 28, 2015, 04:48:53 PM
Really enjoyed re-reading this thread.
Good work fellas.

Same here! Just ordered the pcv and auto tuner.  Excited to try Ung's map!

Has anyone bothered with different maps for each gear?

thanks again!
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EEL

i was planning that out this coming winter

technoracer

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Quote from: EEL on May 01, 2016, 06:12:36 AM
i was planning that out this coming winter

Mapping by gear? It looks easy enough to set up...

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koko64

Looking forward to hearing your results and impressions.
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technoracer

Anyone happen to know offhand which of the 3 wires on the speed sensor we tap to enable the gear mapping on a '09 m1100?
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koko64

#147
 On line fitting instructions on PC site should have it via the links for that product.
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technoracer

I'll look for them online. Thanks!
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ungeheuer

Quote from: technoracer on May 01, 2016, 03:34:57 AM
Same here! Just ordered the pcv and auto tuner.  Excited to try Ung's map!

Has anyone bothered with different maps for each gear?
Remember, when your PCV is managed by the Autotune module......  Autotune creates the mapping dynamically. 

With Autotune, 'ungs map' (or any 'map')... isn't one.  It's merely the air/fuel lookup table from which Autotune constructs the best appropriate map for prevailing setup and conditions.

As far as I remember then..... 'mapping' per gear is gonna be neither possible nor necessary.  Set your AFR x RPM x throttle % (as per the table I use or your preferred variation)... and let Autotune do the rest.

Or forget Autotune, wire up for geared mapping and have your Dynotuner create a static map for each gear..... if that's your thing.



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