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Started by the_Journeyman, October 25, 2010, 11:13:19 AM

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He Man

#60
January 19, 2011, 02:56:54 PM Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 02:59:48 PM by He Man
I can't remember if I posted here or not ( didn't look) but you should of used a left hand drill bit. When you use a right handed bit, the bolt gets tighter and makes it even more impossible to remove. Also, if you wanted to make this a bit more simplier, use a mini propane torch pen and heat the bolt up wack it with a brass punch and hammer and then try to remove it. The heat will melt any thread locker and expand the bolt to crack any rust.

You can also try to use a dremele and put a slot in it then take a brass punch and try to wack it out ( i wouldnt use a blade of a screw driver because its sharp and it may actually just shear a chunk off)

first thing id really do is weld a bar on to it. that would work for sure. but if that option is not avilable and if you have as steady hand, ive had a lot of luck just drilling out the whole bolt leaving a thin shell and peeling the shell out. Takes a bit more time and patience, but it works. Not recommended though, one of those things u have to do a few times to get the hang of.

best of luck.

also, glad to see my bike is not the only one with chunks of road grime and built up wax!

the_Journeyman

#61
January 19, 2011, 03:00:54 PM
Didn't think about the left-handed bit thing.  Odd thing is, on partially unthreaded (maybe 1-2 turns before it totally stuck.  I'm hoping that even once the bolts are removed the threads in the case are still usable.

JM
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ducpainter

#62
January 19, 2011, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 19, 2011, 03:00:54 PM
Didn't think about the left-handed bit thing.  Odd thing is, on partially unthreaded (maybe 1-2 turns before it totally stuck.  I'm hoping that even once the bolts are removed the threads in the case are still usable.

JM
Try screwing them back in a 1/2 turn or so and then back out a little till they bind up.

Keep doing that while spraying and you should be able to work them out.
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the_Journeyman

#63
January 19, 2011, 04:01:25 PM
I've tried, it's really weird, but when the one that moved then binded, it REALLY binded.  I'm going to try heat again, the bolts have been soaking in PB all afternoon. 

Why didn't I buy a AMF Sportster.  All I'd have to do is start it a rev it good and they're rattle free...

JM
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Monsterlover

#64
January 19, 2011, 04:39:27 PM
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#65
January 19, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 19, 2011, 04:01:25 PM
I've tried, it's really weird, but when the one that moved then binded, it REALLY binded.  I'm going to try heat again, the bolts have been soaking in PB all afternoon. 

Why didn't I buy a AMF Sportster.  All I'd have to do is start it a rev it good and they're rattle free...

JM
Why are you using channel locks?

Time to bust out the vise-grips. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#66
January 19, 2011, 04:41:04 PM
Or weld a spare lug nut to each and put the impact on it.

;)
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

the_Journeyman

#67
January 19, 2011, 06:41:13 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on January 19, 2011, 04:41:04 PM
Or weld a spare lug nut to each and put the impact on it.

;)

Great idea if I had a welder... 

Might try the vice grip route.  Maybe a big slot cut into each one and a hammer + chisel or something.  I didn't realize bolts could stick this good.

JM
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Monsterlover

#68
January 19, 2011, 06:49:27 PM
Do you have any sort of a grinder?

If so, consider grinding 2 flats on those studs to give your vise grips or channel-locks something to hang onto. . .
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

the_Journeyman

#69
January 19, 2011, 06:58:47 PM
I do have a side grinder, and I was thinking about giving the shank a flat edge for better grip.  That's on tomorrow's list.  We'll see after sleep & work.

Thanks for the inputs folks!  I'll keep updating.

JM
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Artful

#70
January 19, 2011, 07:06:22 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 19, 2011, 04:01:25 PM
Why didn't I buy a AMF Sportster.  All I'd have to do is start it a rev it good and they're rattle free...

JM

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scott_araujo

#71
January 20, 2011, 08:48:04 AM
Whack those puppies with a hammer, heat 'em with a propane torch, and then got to town with vice grips.  Fewest special tools, no welding to fry the ecu, and it if doesn't work then no harm done.

Scott

Jarvicious

#72
January 20, 2011, 10:14:40 AM
Quote from: humorless dp on January 19, 2011, 04:40:23 PM
Why are you using channel locks?

Time to bust out the vise-grips. ;D

My thoughts exactly :)

Quote from: He Man on January 19, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
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also, glad to see my bike is not the only one with chunks of road grime and built up wax!

You're not alone.




JM, looks like these cats have everything covered.  Lots of manly beating of bolts and PB blaster should do the trick, just don't get impatient or extracting bolts could be the least of your concerns. 
We're liberated by the hearts that imprison us.  We're taken hostage by the ones that we break.

the_Journeyman

#73
January 20, 2011, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: He Man on January 19, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
also, glad to see my bike is not the only one with chunks of road grime and built up wax!
Quote from: Jarvicious on January 20, 2011, 10:14:40 AM
My thoughts exactly :)

You're not alone.




That's because we ride our bikes like they're s'posed to be ridden!

Special thanks to dp & Monsterlover. 

1 side-grinder + 4 flat sides to the shank + one pair of vice grips = Movement on one of the bolts!

JM

Got Torque?
Quote from: r_ciao on January 28, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
ADULT TRUTHS

10. Bad decisions make good stories.

ducpainter

#74
January 20, 2011, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 20, 2011, 02:19:28 PM
That's because we ride our bikes like they're s'posed to be ridden!

Special thanks to dp & Monsterlover. 

1 side-grinder + 4 flat sides to the shank + one pair of vice grips = Movement on one of the bolts!

JM


Back and forth...don't force it.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


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