Mixing "race fuel" with pump gas-

[Radar]

My local bike shop sells fairly high octane fuel in 5 gallon containers. The local gas station carries 91 as premium.  (probably with ethanol)

Do you accept pump gas as all there is, or do you go through the hassle of mixing.

The owner's manual calls for 95 "at least."

With the loud pipes and helmet, I don't think I'd hear any early detonation...

How do Ducati folks deal with the issue?

Thanks-

[Kopfjager]

I believe that 95 is Ron.

[Radar]

Ron?

What's that?

[Turf]

Ron?

What's that?

different octane rating than US, unless you've high comp pistons or a sbk then 87 is all you need to run

[Kopfjager]

Ron?

What's that?

Research Octane Number. Used in Europe

[Radar]

Interesting... I know a lorry is a truck, and an elevator is a lift; an apartment is a flat and a fag is a cigarette...

I guess I assumed octane is octane...

Thank you for the info!

[Duc796canada]

Most people won't reply to you on this topic(some might even get rude), it has a been covered extensively. I will give you this, the US equal to 95 RON(European standard rating) is 90/91(RON+MON/2) American rating, yes includes Canada and Mexico!) pump gas in North America, so 89-91 is good for use in your Monster(favouring 91 as daily use and 89 in a pinch). Australia uses the "North American" rating, so regular 87 pump gas is equal to 91-92 RON in Europe. if you live in "higher altitude" areas, you can save your money and theoratically use the lower 89 as daily due lesser dense air.

[Howie]

Most of us have been running 87 with no problem.  Since your 796 is a new engine it may or may not like 87.  If the engine doesn't ping it doesn't need more.  You will probably hear the ping in spite of your loud pipes.  The mathematical averages don't really work out.  RON (research octane number) and MON (motor octane number) are derived using different test methods.  MON requires preheating of the fuel, higher RPM and variable ignition advance, RON does not.  MON is also more accurately reflects of the needs of a modern engine.

Manufacturers tend to be conservative when it comes to octane rating, even more so when there is no knock sensor being used.  The owners manual for both the 1.8T Golf and Passat we had recommended 91 AKI.  Both ran well (actually better) on 87.  Diagnostic software showed no knock sensor activity on either car.

[krolik]

I use a combination of weasel piss & cobra venom. I get .1% more horsepower with it.

[redxblack]

87 works fine in mine.

[Speeddog]

I use a combination of weasel piss & cobra venom. I get .1% more horsepower with it.

You either don't ride much or you've got a lot of weasels and cobras. 

[the_Journeyman]

87 works fine in my carbed M750 and in my FI 900SS.  Granted your 796 makes more HP than my 900 so I don't know that it's all that helpful ~

JM

[Howie]

Oh! Forgot about the race gas.  Race gas is a pretty generic term, many different formulas.  Some is just higher octane and may or may not have the additives needed for normal street use.  Others are highly oxygenated fuels that will corrode your fuel system if not run dry.

[Aflac]

You don't need any more than 87 you don't have high compression pistons if your engine pings because of your altitude use 89

[MadDuck]

I understand the need to run leaner mixtures at higher altitudes but why on earth would octane have anything to do with that?  Octane basically deals with how fast the fuel burns and when it starts burning. Lower octane igniting sooner than higher octane and all that.