You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

[MendoDave]

close, but they didn't used to be. 

But I just found out that Chevy is offering the Colorado with two diesel mills:

http://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-small-truck/specs/powertrain.html?%3Fseo=ysm_%7C_GM+Chevy+Retention-X9223686_%7C_GMNA%7CUS%7CCHV%7CBING%7CS%7CBP%7CA%7CEX%7CRTN%7CCOL%7CMPU%7C%28null%29%7C%28null%29%7CBI-Colorado-RTN-Exact_%7C_Sitelinks_%7C_2015+colorado

Unless things have changed the big three full size trucks are the same size truck with progressively heavier/beefier running gear & suspension and sometimes a heavier frame. Otherwise the Cab & Bed are all the same size barring varriation like long bed/shortbed options Crew cab/standard cab.

[duccarlos]

I would not buy a Chevy.

[ducatiz]

I would not buy a Chevy.

They are rebadged Mitsubishis

[Triple J]

I've had good luck with my 2 Chevy trucks (both full size), the first being a 1994 1/2 ton that my buddy still has and is using. Great truck. I chose my current one because the Duramax/Allison combination is arguably the most reliable combo for HD rigs in an automatic configuration (Cummins w/ manual supposedly being the best). It's a great truck so far (despite my DEF annoyances that seem common to all modern HD trucks).

Funny how trucks have grown over the years. My 1994 had a 5" lift and 33" tires. My current one again has 33" tires, but only needed a front leveling kit to fit them!

[herm]

Unless things have changed the big three full size trucks are the same size truck with progressively heavier/beefier running gear & suspension and sometimes a heavier frame. Otherwise the Cab & Bed are all the same size barring varriation like long bed/shortbed options Crew cab/standard cab.

which big three? If you are including Ford, the F150 and the Super Duties have not shared a body since mid 1999.....although they are sneaking back towards it with the newer F150.

[MendoDave]

which big three? If you are including Ford, the F150 and the Super Duties have not shared a body since mid 1999.....although they are sneaking back towards it with the newer F150.

I was Including Ford. So that confirms to me that things have changed. Then again the last Full size Truck I owned looked like this.

[Kev M]

Unless things have changed the big three full size trucks are the same size truck with progressively heavier/beefier running gear & suspension and sometimes a heavier frame. Otherwise the Cab & Bed are all the same size barring varriation like long bed/shortbed options Crew cab/standard cab.

The Colorado/Canyon isn't a full-size truck (though it's close to what they once we're, at least in length).

But they are a mid-size truck based on a proven world platform that has been available overseas for a few years.

Smaller, more car like I'm cabin and drive than a full-sized truck. A couple feet less truck to park.

[muskrat]

The prices don't reflect small anything IMO

[Kev M]

The prices don't reflect small anything IMO

What models? If you're talking US it's because diesel currently represents a niche and upscale market, ESPECIALLY with trucks.

[the_Journeyman]

Price certainly isn't small.  On the 3/4 ton trucks, the diesel option alone is around $8k.

JM

[Kev M]

Price certainly isn't small.  On the 3/4 ton trucks, the diesel option alone is around $8k.

JM

FWIW, it's only a $4k option on the Ram 1500 regular cab/long box which is still probably a bit big for a "small" truck thread.

And it looks like you can get it on a 2wd.

So you COULD get into it around $30k at that point.

[muskrat]

What models? If you're talking US it's because diesel currently represents a niche and upscale market, ESPECIALLY with trucks.

on the "new" Canyon and for that matter the Tacoma's out there.  I myself have a diesel and will NOT go back to a gasser truck unless I'm forced to financially.

[Kev M]

on the "new" Canyon and for that matter the Tacoma's out there.  I myself have a diesel and will NOT go back to a gasser truck unless I'm forced to financially.

There is no price announced on the US diesel Canyon or Taco as they are not available yet.

But fwiw, the petrol Colorado/Canyon starts around $20k and tops out around $40k completely loaded.

That's $10s of thousands less than full-size trucks.

[muskrat]

Depends on options but I assure you many won't get the base line since they'll be mostly daily drivers.  Limited rowing and payload too from what I've read.  They discount full size trucks 10 grand these days.....we'll surely when prices jump but don't know off hand.

[Kev M]

Depends on options but I assure you many won't get the base line since they'll be mostly daily drivers.  Limited rowing and payload too from what I've read.  They discount full size trucks 10 grand these days.....we'll surely when prices jump but don't know off hand.

I guess I'm losing your point.

I'm casually shopping right now for a possible new vehicle purchase this summer (probably a truck or Jeep).

I've spent a lot of time configuring most/all of the mid-size trucks and 1/2 ton full-size trucks.

I equip them all the same way for comparison sake - crew cab, 4x4, heated leather, NAV, premium sound, towing packages, locking rear diff etc. I stop short of lane departure warnings or adaptive braking type systems.

I check both Petrol and Diesel (if available, but there aren't many in that category currently, ala this thread).

And I compare the biggest motor available in the mid-size to the smallest available in the full-size of that configuration for economy

The Colorado or Canyon come to about $40k

The Ram1500 petrol comes to about $46k petrol, $50k diesel

The Ford F150 w/ the small Ecoboost petrol came to about $52k

You put the larger petrol motors in the Ram or F150 and you're quickly getting towards $60k