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« Reply #90 on: December 10, 2011, 10:02:55 AM »
which latter his (stainless) or yours (ti-al)?   :-P
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« Reply #91 on: December 10, 2011, 10:06:21 AM »
I read the technical bulletins before posting and just wanted make sure I read it right. It showed that titanium had a at least a 1/3 higher tensile strength than stainless steel.
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« Reply #92 on: December 10, 2011, 10:22:11 AM »
Quote from: ducatiz on December 10, 2011, 09:56:25 AM
stainless has better shear vs ti-al but ti-al has better stretch resistance.  the latter is more brittle.

+1 after calculating the numbers you are correct sir.
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« Reply #93 on: December 10, 2011, 10:50:55 AM »
It's key to remember that "titanium" is really titanium-aluminum.  The Ti is alloyed with the Al to make it stronger, but the alloy retains many of the essential characteristics of the dominant material (aluminum).
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« Reply #94 on: December 10, 2011, 11:40:56 AM »
6Al4V Ti is 90% Titanium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_alloy
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« Reply #95 on: December 10, 2011, 12:40:04 PM »
yes, you want that one ^^^   Its also regularly referred to as "Grade 5", iirc.


AND, if you are super-dooper balling, pay a bit up front and have it Black PVD coated to have "black titanium bolts".  WHOOO!
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« Reply #96 on: December 10, 2011, 04:11:02 PM »
15-18 lbs. That's a stack of weight and gonna help the front weight bias. Reckon you'll get it down to 350?

So if you're still using the Monster frame up front, how you getting those carbs to fit? Special manifolds or modifying the frame spars?
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« Reply #97 on: December 10, 2011, 04:25:22 PM »
Quote from: koko64 on December 10, 2011, 04:11:02 PM
15-18 lbs. That's a stack of weight and gonna help the front weight bias. Reckon you'll get it down to 350?

So if you're still using the Monster frame up front, how you getting those carbs to fit? Special manifolds or modifying the frame spars?

With my old setup wet with 4 gal of fuel I was roughly 380lbs. I hope I can get lighter than 350lb at least someday.

I'm going to mode the frame but I haven't yet. I was waiting for my valve cover shock to show up first since I'll have to chop out the factory suspension mounts also.
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« Reply #98 on: December 10, 2011, 05:13:12 PM »
Pretty exciting build, 100hp low weight. " Mostro Leggera" or "Sponster".

The upper linkage/bell crank mount looks like a cast item welded onto the frame. Lopping that off is gonna save a fair bit. 'Spose you don't need it now for the ridgity with the motor doing the job. How much lighter is the SS swingarm to the 888 style?

I'm really enjoying this build. You are really distilling down Galluzzi's pure Monster concept. Terblanche would agree describing superbikes of ten years ago as "fat overweight pigs" (he wanted to build a supercharged Supermono for the street).
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« Reply #99 on: December 10, 2011, 05:32:15 PM »
The aluminum ss swing arm weights 8.2lbs bare, and my 888 swingarm is steel. I'll weight it when I get home. Then I'll do combined weight of the suspension parts again for each set up.
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« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2011, 06:47:22 PM »
Quote from: Speeddog on December 10, 2011, 11:40:56 AM
6Al4V Ti is 90% Titanium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_alloy

i'm definitely not thinking of the right alloy then -- 6% aluminum?  really?
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« Reply #101 on: December 12, 2011, 05:14:12 PM »
Here's how I did it in 2006 on a 2003 M1000S using a 2002 SS900 rear-end complete w/Ohlins shock:



Clearance had to be made at the base of the tank to allow the shock to clear the bottom of the tank, but that wasn't too hard...
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« Reply #102 on: December 12, 2011, 06:47:03 PM »
Stu, did you use the same or similar top shock mount as Dub Luv? 
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« Reply #103 on: December 12, 2011, 07:28:04 PM »
it lookalike he has frame member there running just above middle of vertical head.
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« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2011, 09:42:46 PM »
Tubing added to position upper shock mount in exactly the same place as the SS frame is.  Large suspension crossmember removed for shock clearance and visual appeal.

If the V head needs removing, however, it will necessitate engine removal.
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