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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: Monsterlover on August 08, 2013, 06:15:10 PM
Probably should put your goats in a more secure area so the youngins don't hijack them.
Great idea, I'd vote for that
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Goats have no front teeth.....
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: ducpainter on August 08, 2013, 03:26:18 PM
That would reduce the audience that can purchase and IMO would be bad for the members that are part of the community and happen to be selling. It's easy enough to do it that way.
The other way only prevents a new member from starting a thread in a for sale board.
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To answer an earlier question...it just frosts me when I'm looking through the classifieds and I see a member with say 22 posts and every one of them is in the classifieds.
That isn't what this place is about. It's a community, not an economic opportunity.
I'm not against some sort of prerequisite number of posts to buy or sell but I have to say that I recently sold a gas tank to someone with only 2 posts. That worked for me.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: MacDuck on August 08, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
I'm not against some sort of prerequisite number of posts to buy or sell but I have to say that I recently sold a gas tank to someone with only 2 posts. That worked for me.
My proposal would not change that.
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Quote from: ducpainter on August 09, 2013, 02:23:38 AM
My proposal would not change that.
Mine would.
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Quote from: ungeheuer on August 09, 2013, 03:21:39 AM
Mine would.
I understand that it would.
What I don't understand is why you'd want to limit the audience of participating members.
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To avoid the 50x +1s.
But as I said early on, if it were up to me I'd also lock several other board sections up to all but members of a certain level of contribution.
Reward for input.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: ungeheuer on August 09, 2013, 04:04:41 AM
To avoid the 50x +1s.
But as I said early on, if it were up to me I'd also lock several other board sections up to all but members of a certain level of contribution.
Reward for input.
Woe be to the people that +1 to reach their count...
I feel that policy is exclusionary and don't re-visit forums that won't allow
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to all members. I stopped participating in the NEDOC forum due to that. That's just me.
Limiting thread starting privileges is a middle ground IMO.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 09, 2013, 10:54:43 PM »
While we're at it, I'd also like a minimum number of posts before ppl can create "my bike won't start" threads, and an automatic ban for excess capitalisation in posts.
Oh, and lets move oz monsters so its the forum default page.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 10, 2013, 06:04:22 AM »
Suzyj
I think you're on to something.
I want firm commitments from the regulators of this forum that no one can bad talk the new Monsters.
It's a form a discrimination.
Oh, and a clear definition of what are the fastest colors in descending order so there can be no more debate.
And let's stand up a central court thread to take people who need to be banned for any infraction so that a body of appointed members can hear all the evidence and decide.
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Then again we could all just be adults and decide things for ourselves
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 10, 2013, 08:24:09 AM »
I joined almost a year ago, and honestly, it was mostly for the Parts ads - as I couldn't view them without an account.
I've purchased a set of Arrow high mounts from a member that I was able to view with my low post count. As well, I helped a member out by sending him a piece for his aftermarket slave that I didn't need and he did. I didn't ask anything for it, just dropped it in the mail.
Doesn't that make me a part of the community? I don't really care to post. I'm not an expert and when I do read some of the experts opinions, even in this thread, that beat up on the opinions of others makes me want to do so even less. It's just that mentality of having more posts, been here longer, therefore my opinion should carry more weight than yours - noob. Reminiscent of the Stonecutters - member 15000 go polish my pipes as I, member 1234, drink from this lass of virtue true.
I've seen x amount of posts to count for viewing this section, or to post for sale, or post pics on other forums ... but at the end of the day, scammers are gonna scam. Didn't think it was that big of an issue here, since many vets here are watching out for who is posting what and sure they are speaking to the mods about questionable items for sale.
I vote for 25, if there is going to be a restriction, but don't take away my ability to see ads because I choose not to post about my breakfast or if I chose boxers or briefs this morning.
Thanks for reading and have a great ride today!
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 10, 2013, 09:25:12 AM »
I don't know where everyone keeps getting the idea that DP started this thread to defuse scammers. My understanding (from actually reading his posts in the thread) is he is concerned/annoyed with people that join simply to sell stuff. There are other sites for that.
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Quote from: 750Monster43 on August 10, 2013, 08:24:09 AM
I've purchased a set of Arrow high mounts from a member that I was able to view with my low post count. As well, I helped a member out by sending him a piece for his aftermarket slave that I didn't need and he did. I didn't ask anything for it, just dropped it in the mail.
Doesn't that make me a part of the community?
You haven't sold anything. Thats the issue. The new rule would allow new members to buy all they want, trade all they want, and help out all they want. Just not sell for a bit.
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I don't really care to post. I'm not an expert and when I do read some of the experts opinions, even in this thread, that beat up on the opinions of others makes me want to do so even less. It's just that mentality of having more posts, been here longer, therefore my opinion should carry more weight than yours - noob. Reminiscent of the Stonecutters - member 15000 go polish my pipes as I, member 1234, drink from this lass of virtue true.
Having more posts/been here longer does carry more weight for me because I have been able to evaluate this persons opinions, expertise, value system, educational level, conflict resolution, and other variables over a longer period of time. I've been interacting with (some) of these guys since 1999. Of course I would give more weight to their opinion then yours. Wouldn't you?
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: hbliam on August 10, 2013, 09:32:26 AM
Having more posts/been here longer does carry more weight for me because I have been able to evaluate this persons opinions, expertise, value system, educational level, conflict resolution, and other variables over a longer period of time. I've been interacting with (some) of these guys since 1999. Of course I would give more weight to their opinion then yours. Wouldn't you?
No, I necessarily wouldn't. In fact, there are some posters here that I simply scroll down when I see their comments in a thread. I based this on how they have dealt with others in previous subjects. More than 1 person can have the same answer to the same problem, it's not that unique ... so I move on and read someone else's solution that has the exact same relevance without being condescending.
It's awesome that you have been dealing with some of these guys since 99. I haven't, and you know I've gotten along just fine not knowing them myself. I'm sure that the knowledge some of them possess is infinitely vast, but, I am also certain that knowledge came well before Post # 1 on these boards. Not too many become subject matter experts with no relevant experience prior.
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the other aspect of the number of posts is the time people have.
some people, unlike me, don't waste time posting, they are doing, and some of them doing great Ducati related stuff. Their opinion, in my opinion, IS highly desired.
take the time to look at people's links and profiles and welcome posts. More posts don't me more knowledgeable. I have nearly 10k posts and I'm an idiot compared to people like DuckStew or Brad the Bike Boy. neither of which post a lot, because, well they're too busy working on bikes.
And if the concern is people are joining just to sell? so what. it's not like this place is worried about making numbers for a future sell like the DML? or is it
point is, leave it alone, no one is being hurt, and if they are, let them decide to go somewhere else or not.
if you want to ensure the users that are active are truly active, have people sign in every few months instead of having the option to sign on forever.
you'll see the trend of those who are truly active, lurkers, and who just came onboard to sell one time and leave.
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