Reverse "GP" Shifting

[NAKID]

Did you get it off ebay? Those thing are cheap. $70 bucks right? No need to mod them to fit right?

I did, they have an ebay store. No mods to make it fit. You will have to play around with it's position on the splines and the eccentric toepiece to get everything where you like it...

[Tommysurfs]

OK this is the easiest mod to do.  Took 5 minutes.  It's raining like mad here, but I took her around the block and what a difference in shifting.  blown away & can't wait until a day without rain.  any inexpensive/used shifters out there?

[AleksT]

I'm looking to reverse shift my 2000 M900ie but the "thingy" off of the shaft is curved/angled instead of straight like the 800s. I think I may have tried just flipping it before with poor results or it just plain didn't work. I ended up buying a 998 straight reverse lever but that just put the toe peg way too close.

So, I'm going to try this again tonight but does anyone know if it *should* work with an 00 M900ie? I should be able to just "buy" that aforementioned "thingy" for an 800 and use it on my 900 as the output shaft is the same size right? I'm thinking of buying the Motowheels adjustable lever but if I can use my stock linkage I'd like to go with that for awhile.

BTW - I have an "extra" (bought one for the Monster and one for my 998) reverse shifter (I'll post a pic later) that I couldn't use on my Monster if someone is interested in buying it.  I need to get my Monster squared away on reverse shifting first though.

Thanks everyone.

[NAKID]

Yes, the Thingy (spline) is the same size on all modern Ducati's...

[AleksT]

Nevermind. I figured it out and got it working right. Heh... It just has to be in the right spline +/- 1 spline or else it hits at the footpeg side. Whoo hoo! I've always preferred reverse shifting so now I just hope I can re-learn it.

[AleksT]

By the way, thanks for all of the info in this thread. It made me determined to really get it done this time.

[tangueroHondo]

Anyone know why they ship these units with the linkage and crap?  Do the Euros get the GP shifter off the showroom floor? 

[He Man]

They call it GP shifter because its race style. Ever heard of a car that comes stock with race slicks and a removeable steering wheel thats marketed to the general public? 1 down 4/5 up is standard..

[psycledelic]

They call it GP shifter because its race style. Ever heard of a car that comes stock with race slicks and a removeable steering wheel thats marketed to the general public? 1 down 4/5 up is standard..

I am a little confused as to why 1 down and 4/5 was ever considered standard.  I am a good couple of weeks and over a 1000 miles into the new shift pattern and it has improved my riding tremendously.  I don't see a downside to it.  I agree that some "race" characteristics, such as racing slicks, really don't have a practical use on the road, but I have always thought that racing, NASCAR for example, was a kind of R&D for Chevrolet, Ford, etc., and had a trickle down into the later production versions.  It seems to me like the motorcycle market would be even more into that mentality because the production bikes are so much closer to the race machines then cars would ever be. 
I seems to me that the standard shift pattern resembles the old reliable computer system that controls the facility that I work at.  It has been in place for so long and has gotten so big that it is just impossible to change without causing major problems.  In the case of motorcycle shifting, major problems means getting people killed. 
On a side note, for anyone that swaps to the GP shifting, a small sticker on the tach is a great way to remind yourself for the first couple of weeks.  Or at least until you get it into your head.

[AleksT]

psychledelic - I agree with you that reverse-shifting (aka - gp shifting) is better than standard shifting but of course everyone has their own reasons to do it. I used to use it on my track bikes because you get a more positive upshift, no toe under shifter in turns (but that might only happen a tiny % of times honestly) and it was somewhat easier to "backshift" while hard on the brakes. The biggest plus for me was the not missing an upshift anymore. You mentioned that it improves your riding tremendously. Can you please expand on that?

Is it riding experience? Enjoyment? Quality? Or less mistakes? Just wondering as I have friends who ask me about it and I only have my own reasons to switch.

Another great plus (sometimes a minus) is that other people tend to not want to ride your bike if it's reverse shifted.

Good idea on the sticker though. I left myself a note on the tank this morning but didn't need it as I thought about it all morning when I was getting ready.  Backshift, backshift, backshift. Forward shift. I got it.

[Trenchdigger]

I like GP shifting for reasons already mentioned:

• It's more natural for me
• My shifts are more positive
• My shifting is smoother and faster up and down
• If I let people ride my bike, they are always more careful about what they are doing.

I have no trouble whatsoever switching bikes with different shift patterns.

[b.]

so for a DSS w/ stock rear-sets, is it ergonomically better to get a GP shift lever that's angled or straight?

thx,
b.

[Carman]

I've been wanting to check this out, thanks for the info!

And it gets rid of all those extra parts!

[tangueroHondo]

flip it. there is enough room

I've got a prob - 05 S2R - Not enough room.  When I rotate the shifter flange the connecting rod can't get the clearance it would need to reach it.

[NAKID]

I've got a prob - 05 S2R - Not enough room.  When I rotate the shifter flange the connecting rod can't get the clearance it would need to reach it.

You have enough room. I did it on my S2R...