New Ignitech TCIP4 In Need Of Assistance

Started by terse750, July 19, 2015, 10:58:05 AM

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terse750

Something like that.

Did I fry something? [shot]


terse750

#61
I think it was at 18max and 23base to start

And I went 30max and 18base and it was running...it reved up to match the massive amount of idle it needed to start to begin with. I turned it down ( idle screw) and pulled the throttle and she was alive and breathing ( it actually allowed throttle turning).

Now I can't get her to crank. I have a few fresh plugs and adjusting gap to she if she'll fire again

ducpainter

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Dirty Duc

I don't think so.

My theory is:
Channel 1 and Channel 2 are tooth counts.

Based on my estimations, one or both of them is set wrong.

Click the drop down that says "Ducati fuel inj 48-2" and select "Ducati fuel inj 48-2" and click yes when it asks if you want default settings.

I'll have to go double check on a bike in the shed or the other PC... If my theory is correct, base should be the tooth at TDC or the next tooth ATDC, channel 1 is for Cylinder 1, channel 2 is for Cylinder 2.  Max is the maximum teeth advance, and works out to 60 crank degrees... which is pretty standard for electronic trickery.

It doesn't run right at ignitech's settings because their tooth count is off, and it doesn't start at your settings because you are even farther off and backwards.
[/theorizing]

terse750

Haha I gotta go get some gas! Thats why she's not firing

Dirty Duc

Alternatively, you can check yourself by doing the following:

Remove spark plugs.
Remove cam sensor.
Rotate engine by hand until you see the recessed gear teeth.
Count the teeth until the first cylinder gets to TDC.
Count the teeth until the second cylinder gets to TDC.

This is how ignitech has it set (red for channel 1, blue for channel 2).

terse750

#66
Well it wasn't the gas...still not firing

Ahhh I got you dirtyduc.

I've reset to default setting and she's no wanting to run.

I've changed to brand new plugs also

terse750

Its to effin hot out there now!

What could I have fried? coils? fuses? wires?

I'll have to check my fuses later.


Dirty Duc

Quote from: Dirty Duc on August 08, 2015, 10:31:29 AM
Alternatively, you can check yourself by doing the following:

Remove spark plugs.
Remove cam sensor.
Rotate engine by hand until you see the recessed gear teeth.
Count the teeth until the first cylinder gets to TDC.
Count the teeth until the second cylinder gets to TDC.

Do this.

Ignitech may number the teeth 0-45 or 1-46 so you will have to try it both ways.  In the picture above, I numbered them 1-46.

I don't remember how you chose to connect the coils... the wire designated 1 should correspond to channel 1.  Whichever cylinder that is gets numbered the same as the tooth count in the middle of the window for "Start advance."  Subtract 5 and that is "Max advance."  Repeat for channel 2.

terse750

I must have toasted something.

I'm not getting spark at all now... coils? maybe the Ignitech itself is fried.

I'll have to figure out what isn't working

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

terse750

Well heres an update.

I found a 1999 750 complete motor, oil cooler, manifold tubes only 4hours away from me for 400$
It has 14000mi and shows a dry compression reading of 149psi per cylinder.

Waiting around for the right 900 motor is not an option!

So I'm going to pick up this other 750 next Friday. haha

I've lost hope for my ability to wrangle this beast [bang] (EFI-carb) It's proven to be a costly mistake on my part. (many mistakes!) [shot]
And if not for each and every one of you trying to help me, I would have never made it this far. I was so close! But my van that I use to go to and from work is falling apart and I need alternative transportation back asap! And for less than 500$ I can have it. Not to mention every time I see another motorcycle I get misty eyed... [drool]
So I'm choosing to throw in the towel on this EFI to carby effort.

My other reasons being... I don't feel I can rely on this Ignitech unit and/or the lack of customer service.
I'm not racing this thing! I don't need on the fly custom adjustments, I cruise. Sure it may be nice for those of you advanced enough to utilize it. But I don't even own a laptop, I'm not tech savy. 

I just want it to be like all the other carbies...simple [wine]

I've read that others have had issues with the ignitech units and different setups similar to what I'd be running.

I'll be doing another swap next weekend and not sure yet what my plans are for the EFI motor.
Not worried about that until I get the bike going again.

Maybe I'll build a bike around it? I have extra parts already...swing-arm, rear wheel,handlebars, triple, forks! Who knows...at this point I'm going to have to be OK just having a sweet ass 750 or maybe 2. [Dolph]


terse750

#72
So I guess I outted myself as a complete jack-ass... [evil]
Anywho,

Going for the gold today. As in, motor swap madness continues!

[beer]

terse750

YEEEEESSSS!!!!!!!

Fired right up! And it's got throttle response!
Just had to drill the mounts out a bit and now I need to get the clutch sorted out.
Doesn't seem to work right with my Obre..slave cylinder. But I have the original slave for this motor.
Guess I'll have to figure out the dealieo

Anyone care to chime in? 
Anyone?...
Anyone?...lol

ducpainter

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."