The Official Oz Monster Whining Crying and Pregnant Dogging thread.

[Two dogs]

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=107.0

[Betty]

At the risk of getting into trouble for using the 'F' word ... I was wondering if anybody was actually going tomorrow ... or if anybody might actually be reading.

We are currently weighing up our options considering the 'F' word ... and wondering if we might just be better off making a run to Orange for the football.

Haven't been bothered to even clean the bikes so far ... is it worth it, is anybody interested?

[Betty]

Well it is wet up here ... so not much point in riding out for a Concours event.

Also, since it seems people are happy to email or text, but not post on the forum (or not allowed to) communication is a bit difficult. Don't particularly want to travel all the way down in the wet to wander about on our own ... still contemplating a trip to Orange in lieu.

[ungeheuer]

....since it seems people are happy to email or text, but not post on the forum (or not allowed to) communication is a bit difficult.

Not allowed to?  All current OzMo members are allowed to post.  Some choose not to.  And of course, that's entirely up to them .

[Betty]

Not allowed to?  All current OzMo members are allowed to post.  Some choose not to.  And of course, that's entirely up to them .

It was also good to hear first hand a few reasons why people were choosing not to post.

[loony888]

It was also good to hear first hand a few reasons why people were choosing not to post.

care to share?
my inbox has plenty of room........

[loony888]

what's VERY interesting to me is the fact that this particular forum was started on the back of  member backlash at the old place due to VS taking over and heavy handed moderation/censorship......

Sure there's growing pains but this place was just fine for ages, with a good solid core of members who all got along fine and even though the sydneysiders had the advantage of getting together often, members from all over were made just as welcome, so what great travesty has effectively make the beast with two backsed this sub forum?

[The Don]

Agreed

[Two dogs]

Australia 


Remember ?
 A place where your mates .......or even if they were not your mates but someone you just met in the pub
would tap you on the shoulder and say
"hay mate pull your head in your being a bit of a galah "


Not call the frigen cops and have you thrown out and then arrested and barred from the pub.

[ducpainter]

what's VERY interesting to me is the fact that this particular forum was started on the back of  member backlash at the old place due to MS taking over and heavy handed moderation/censorship......

Sure there's growing pains but this place was just fine for ages, with a good solid core of members who all got along fine and even though the sydneysiders had the advantage of getting together often, members from all over were made just as welcome, so what great travesty has effectively make the beast with two backsed this sub forum?

Actually this place was started due to the onslaught of advertising that VS was going to subject us to. It had nothing to do with moderation. The same moderators that were heavy handed started it if you'll remember.

The recent shite began when some members were asked to tone it down a bit, due to complaints from other Aussie members, and decided that chest thumping like a bunch of teens was a better way to deal with the request than just growing up. That created a situation when management had no choice but to become heavy handed because change was going to happen. It's a free country, but this forum's rules are not necessarily founded on freedom of speech.

It is somewhat comical that the reaction to all this is more whining. If you dislike this place...sod off mates and start your own. 

[ducpainter]

Australia  


Remember ?
 A place where your mates .......or even if they were not your mates but someone you just met in the pub
would tap you on the shoulder and say
"hay mate pull your head in your being a bit of a galah "


Not call the frigen cops and have you thrown out and then arrested and barred from the pub.

Yup...same here up over. When you tap someone on the shoulder down there and ask all nice...and they tell you to make the beast with two backs off...

what happens?

[ducpainter]

Since it seems that there are so many complaints from a few that are offended by the enforcement of a few simple rules...

I decided to start this to consolidate all of your cry baby complaints so that all the good threads aren't sullied.

Whine on boys...I'll call you men when you start acting like them.

[ungeheuer]

Yup...same here up over. When you tap someone on the shoulder down there and ask all nice...and they tell you to make the beast with two backs off...

what happens?

What happens?  Depends on the venue.

In the more salubrious establishments they're escorted off the premises.

Nicely of course.

[Betty]

Since it seems that there are so many complaints from a few that are offended by the enforcement of a few simple rules...

I decided to start this to consolidate all of your cry baby complaints so that all the good threads aren't sullied.

Whine on boys...I'll call you men when you start acting like them.

Thanks ... I know there are a few people that might feel better if they get things off their chest ... but I'm guessing that is not what you really want.

The number of OzMos (past or present) that I spoke to at the Concours is numbered in double figures ... some were regular posters, some not ... one I would consider part of the OzMo community even though they may never have posted. So I would say it was not just the so called trouble making minority.

A common concern was difficult to understand moderation - deleting and moving posts making things difficult to understand what the hell is going on (right or wrong) ... and I have brought this up with the mods via PM before. Surprise, surprise this gets seen as heavy-handedness particularly by those that were not privy to all the context. From personal experience I can attest that it makes it very difficult to defend the actions of the Mods.

Case in point:

Why was my post above moved from the Concours thread? ... It is pretty much a given that you are not allowed to mention the Forecast before an event so as not to be seen as a jinx if the weather turns foul. OK so you may think I was 'pregnant doging' about the weather but I don't think that warrants being the headline act in a new thread ... the Concourse thread is now missing that context.

My second post above was just acknowledgement of the the difficulties I had with receiving texts from various sources ... being able to see that dozens of people had read the thread but not posted. So I was effectively telling people I was receiving their messages even though I may not have responded to them all (many regulars on here know I am no good with the mobile phone).

My third post above was purely because Unge chose to make a political statement ... which at the time still didn't really help because I have no way of knowing who may or may not have been banned and/or suspended and/or withdrawn their participation from the forum by their own accord. I thought the thread was staying on subject until that point.

Now if you really want me to have a whinge ...




... you'll have to wait until another time.

[loony888]

ahh censorship!

well done ungerhauer, what's the matter? worried someone might call you out for your heavy handed moderating (read, power crazed) style here?