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« Reply #270 on: February 27, 2023, 04:00:39 PM »
When you're done with that truck (or just want some variety) my FJ40 needs your kind of lovin...
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« Reply #271 on: February 27, 2023, 04:22:35 PM »
That brushable seam sealer works great.

Also possibly the most toxic nasty shit I've ever dealt with.  Tongue


Looking good, man.
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« Reply #272 on: February 27, 2023, 04:23:43 PM »
I have used a hand rivet gun and a pneumatic one.  Pneumatic FTW!  It was quick, easy, and most importantly, easy on the hands.
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« Reply #273 on: February 27, 2023, 05:01:12 PM »
Quote from: herm on February 27, 2023, 04:00:39 PM
When you're done with that truck (or just want some variety) my FJ40 needs your kind of lovin...

Send it on down. I'll need something to keep these hands from being idle.

Quote from: Davey Two Tractors on February 27, 2023, 04:22:35 PM
That brushable seam sealer works great.

Also possibly the most toxic nasty shit I've ever dealt with.  Tongue


Looking good, man.

Thanks!  I haven't researched any of it yet but I was hoping for something that a caulking gun would run.

Quote from: LMT on February 27, 2023, 04:23:43 PM
I have used a hand rivet gun and a pneumatic one.  Pneumatic FTW!  It was quick, easy, and most importantly, easy on the hands.

That's what I was hoping. I imagine you have to load each rivet by hand and then install it?
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« Reply #274 on: February 28, 2023, 01:21:40 PM »
Yes, you have to load it one rivet at a time.

If you want a sealer that lays flat, and can run out of a caulking gun... https://www.amazon.com/Dicor-Self-Leveling-Lap-Sealant-2/dp/B00H554R98/ref=asc_df_B00H554R98/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=533465893083&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14781274898534986200&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1021920&hvtargid=pla-1388758333851&psc=1

No tooling necessary. I used it on the roof of our camper, and it worked good.
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« Reply #275 on: February 28, 2023, 01:57:31 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2023, 01:21:40 PM
Yes, you have to load it one rivet at a time.

If you want a sealer that lays flat, and can run out of a caulking gun... https://www.amazon.com/Dicor-Self-Leveling-Lap-Sealant-2/dp/B00H554R98/ref=asc_df_B00H554R98/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=533465893083&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14781274898534986200&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1021920&hvtargid=pla-1388758333851&psc=1

No tooling necessary. I used it on the roof of our camper, and it worked good.

Is it sort of medium viscosity like a caulk would be? Or is it runnier than that? I see it's stating only for horizontal surfaces. I have some slightly non-horizontal surfaces that are going to need sealed.
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« Reply #276 on: February 28, 2023, 05:34:52 PM »
Pretty runny.
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« Reply #277 on: March 26, 2023, 11:20:33 AM »
Time to make functioning steering. I started with a full-size truck rack with the intention of mounting it to the front of the axle. That ended up not working out because of packaging issues.

I'm intending to run a telescoping steering joint to accommodate suspension, compression and extension. Another friend of mine suggested flipping the axle around and using the rear of the tube as the mount. Which also means a different steering rack that's a rear steer version. And that's what I did.
2023-03-26_02-53-57 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Since the axles weigh a lot, I built this caddy that fits on my floor jack. There's a center pin that fits into a hole in the jackpad.  What a huge difference this makes in trying to wrangle heavy unruly axle tubes.
2023-03-26_02-54-12 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

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Yep, plenty of room.
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2023-03-26_02-54-39 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

I ended up using a rear steering rack for an early 2000s Chevy cavalier. These are the mounts for that rack.
2023-03-26_02-54-48 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2023-03-26_02-54-57 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2023-03-26_02-55-09 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2023-03-26_02-55-19 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

I ended up using the steering shaft for the same car as the rack. I got lucky in that it was already telescoping. However, I needed an extension to go from that joint to my existing steering column. I machineed that at the shop and then welded it to the stock steering shaft. It worked perfectly.
2023-03-26_02-55-27 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2023-03-26_02-55-32 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

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PXL_20230319_220930280.TS by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Now that I have steering that will work. It's time to pull the cab and box the frame to stiffen it up. I wasn't too sure about getting a few friends together to just lift it. I could only see something going wrong with that process. So I engineered a way for me to do it by myself using my engine hoist and some rigging. I did have my dad and a friend on hand to study the cab. In the end it executed exactly as it did in my mind with no hangups. And nobody got hurt!

I pulled all the cab mount bolts out and replaced them with long eye bolts. From there. I just used some marine rope with a high rating to create a front and rear connection and then just adjusted them until the center gravity was correct. 10/10 would do again.
2023-03-26_02-56-03 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

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2023-03-26_02-56-24 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

To create the pattern for the box plates, I ended up having a friend of mine come over with his 3D scanner. We placed target dots all over the frame and he did his magic to create an STL file of the entire frame. He's able to section all that out and overlay my boxing plates to get their geometry.

After that he's going to send it to one of his guys at his shop and they're going to water jet these plates from 3/16 material. All I have to do is pick them up, write him a check and weld away. Theoretically everything should fit perfectly.

This is the first time I had any exposure to the 3D scanning process and it totally blew my mind. On the other side of that, this is like a $40,000 set up. It will save me hours.
2023-03-26_02-56-32 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2023-03-26_02-56-37 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

I was actually so blown away by how cool this process was that I forgot to take more pictures or video.

If everything goes well the cab will be ready to go back on next weekend.

And then I start building suspension.
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« Reply #278 on: March 26, 2023, 03:55:43 PM »
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« Reply #279 on: March 26, 2023, 04:03:03 PM »
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« Reply #280 on: March 26, 2023, 06:55:12 PM »
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« Reply #281 on: March 27, 2023, 08:01:01 AM »
I have a question re: the plates. Are you going to do filet welds or just butt joints?
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« Reply #282 on: March 27, 2023, 08:04:32 AM »
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« Reply #283 on: March 27, 2023, 01:05:38 PM »
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Filets. waytogo

Mig?
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« Reply #284 on: March 27, 2023, 01:52:46 PM »
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Filets. waytogo

Mig?

Good God yes. I'd be collecting social security by the time I finish this with a TIG welder.
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