Baddest exhaust... Motocreations - Boomtubes

[Ducnewby]

So....the properly tuned bike made more power with Boomtubes, compared to an improperly tuned bike with Zards......No surprise there!

Nothing against Boomtubes or the creator, but these blanket statements implying that Pipe A is better than Pipe B in terms of performance, are just totally misleading. 

I don't think Mark said anything about pipe A being better than pipe B. I will have to check his quote. This pipe set-up is personal preference. Just like anything else you can bolt on to these machines. Everyone has their own little dream of what the perfect Monster will look like. I had an opportunity to get these pipes, and love them. Mark mapped the PCIII to the pipes so that any pipes sold in the future will have a PCIII available with maps all done (or a close map to start with).

So... misleading... Not quite. These pipes look good imho, sound awesome again imo, and don't look like someone took a hacksaw to the stock pipes.

[Ducnewby]

Power / dyno?  We beat the Zard's he had on there on the first dyno pass with BoomTubes.  PCIII and very custom fuel map is required though for my exhaust systems.  It's why we are doing all the testing to build the maps for enthusiasts and will create baselines/variations for customers once we start shipping.

Ask Rick as to his before w/Zard's and after with BoomTubes experience.  Sound levels in-town and out in the country.  And his experiences after his MotoGP weekend at Laguna Seca.  (I wish I could reprint the e-mail he sent me -- it was great!)

Status?  Tooling is finished and we are awaiting the start of the production queue for the S4R and S4RS systems. (Others to follow)  Unfortunately my vendor is doing a 140K unit production run on the same assembly line mine are to be produced on and thus the delay we are experiencing.  I wanted BoomTubes to be built in the USA via CNC bending / CNC TIG welding methods -- I don't want to offshore produce them or sacrifice quality standards that I demand.

And BoomTubes do not sound at all like a Harley with straight pipes... not at all!

So, I stand corrected. Mark did reference that we beat the Zards on the dyno. I think you are taking this out of context. But, you were right in saying what you did. Bottom line is this, I loved my Zards before I traded them for the Boomtubes. I was looking for a style change, not necessarily a performance change My bike is fast enough!! The bike was supposedly tuned to match the Zards prior to my purchasing the bike. It came with the zards. So, I really had no control over the performance aspect of this bike until I gave it to Mark for the tooling of the BT's.

[Ivan]

So, I stand corrected. Mark did reference that we beat the Zards on the dyno. I think you are taking this out of context. But, you were right in saying what you did. Bottom line is this, I loved my Zards before I traded them for the Boomtubes. I was looking for a style change, not necessarily a performance change My bike is fast enough!! The bike was supposedly tuned to match the Zards prior to my purchasing the bike. It came with the zards. So, I really had no control over the performance aspect of this bike until I gave it to Mark for the tooling of the BT's.

All that matters is that you like them.  There is always a balance between form and function, you pay your money and make your choices.  I only reacted because the statement was regarding a relative performance difference, which until a fair comparison is made, is still unknown.

[TAftonomos]

Beating the zards by how much (.5hp, 5hp?), and on what motor?  Why is this dyno graph so elusive to come by?  I wanna see a dyno graph.

[Ivan]

Beating the zards by how much (.5hp, 5hp?), and on what motor?  Why is this dyno graph so elusive to come by?  I wanna see a dyno graph.

Its not worth asking to see the dyno results, because they are irrelevant.  The comparison was not valid, since no effort was put into tuning the engine for best performance with the Zard exhaust installed.

[c_rex]

For those of us interested in the BoomTubes I think the comparison to Zards or just about any other exhaust is irrellevant.  Maybe the Quat D exbox or the straight udders but only because they're underbike solutions.  Otherwise- it's a style thing and the BoomTubes are very unique.  Just my $.016 of course.

[rsoffar]

For those of us interested in the BoomTubes I think the comparison to Zards or just about any other exhaust is irrellevant.  Maybe the Quat D exbox or the straight udders but only because they're underbike solutions.  Otherwise- it's a style thing and the BoomTubes are very unique.  Just my $.016 of course.

+1


im all for upping the performance and all, but i have really wanted to get an exhaust that got rid of the cans cause i think it looks better without them and this is by far in my opinion the best looking set that will get me what i want.

[Bbrent]

Ducnewby,

I love the Boomtubes and have been talking to Mark about them on a regular basis. I live about 20 min from his shop so he says I should be one of the first to get one of the production exhausts. I'm alittle cofused as to what you need for the ECU setup when doing this. Did you have to get a DP ECU as well as the power commander?

[He Man]

Hell, do these badboys come with snorkels? i plan on riding in ankle deep water from time to time!

[TAftonomos]

For those of us interested in the BoomTubes I think the comparison to Zards or just about any other exhaust is irrellevant.  Maybe the Quat D exbox or the straight udders but only because they're underbike solutions.  Otherwise- it's a style thing and the BoomTubes are very unique.  Just my $.016 of course.

I don't follow your line of thinking.  Who is going to spend $15k on a motorcycle to install an exhaust and loose performance?

Function>Form 

I love the way the BT look, but I'm not going to kill performance just to "look" cool.

I can compare the termi's or arrows to an underbike style, but so far the underbike exhausts havn't stacked up.  Mostly because of tube diameter and flow.....thats why I'm interested in these.

[He Man]

If we are talking about function over form, why would you ride a naked bike?

[zedsaid]

If we are talking about function over form, why would you ride a naked bike?

Best. Question. Ever.

[NAKID]

I don't follow your line of thinking.  Who is going to spend $15k on a motorcycle to install an exhaust and loose performance?

Function>Form 

I love the way the BT look, but I'm not going to kill performance just to "look" cool.

I can compare the termi's or arrows to an underbike style, but so far the underbike exhausts havn't stacked up.  Mostly because of tube diameter and flow.....thats why I'm interested in these.

Why do you think they will lose power? Over stock? No way. They "may" not make as much as some other exhausts, but with these engines, we are talking about very minute differences....

[Ducnewby]

Ducnewby,

I love the Boomtubes and have been talking to Mark about them on a regular basis. I live about 20 min from his shop so he says I should be one of the first to get one of the production exhausts. I'm alittle cofused as to what you need for the ECU setup when doing this. Did you have to get a DP ECU as well as the power commander?

I'll tell you one thing, I am glad I did not have to invest in the DP ecu. I heard they are spendy. Depending on the model year, I think starting in 2006/7 you have to buy the DP ecu. You may want to check with the Ducatisti on the forums on that one.

I love these exhaust. The wifey and I went on about a 3-4 hour ride yesterday and I didn't wear ear plugs so we could talk and such without screaming or taking off helmets. It's loud, but a cool kinda loud. It really turns heads. Mark is a stand-up guy and I know for a fact he wouldn't sell an inferior product. Will this exhaust perform better than the rest, not sure, but it WILL give them a run for their money at far less cost. Looking at the price of the BT's at 699, a far cry cheaper than termi's or arrows.

[Bbrent]

If I was concerned about performance I wouldn't have gotten rid of my CBR. I just think these bikes we ride are crazy sexy. I want the Boomtubes because they are unique.