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Is it true Ducati is coming out with the revival of the scrambler ?

Apparently.  The artist rendering looked like some Sport Classic parts were used and the engine was the air cooled 796, but the prototype that has been snapped looked completely different and liquid cooled, though it was such a mess that much of the bike was probably only for test purposes.

they did register the Scrambler name recently

Here are the pics:

(http://toddbundy.com/new_Scrambler_1.jpg)

(http://toddbundy.com/new_Scrambler_2.jpg)

Next thing they'll make a motard. ;D


FTR, that yellow photochop is hideous.

They should just contact Stu, pay him a design fee and call it done. [thumbsup]

That second pic has parts from various Ducatis.
916 rear wheel, SC front wheel, 999 DSS.
The frame is a new style.
Air cooled cylinders on an 820 hyper bottom (cable operated clutch).
 ???

not a 999 swingarm.  899 panigale perhaps.

Ducati has a motard,(hypermotard) i sure hope they make a scrambler,that would be a good second bike aside from my monster.

;D

Someone always bites. [laugh] [beer]

i'd buy one.  yes, yes i would.   [thumbsup] [Dolph]

ftr....how is someone to use a 916 rear wheel with a 999 swingarm?

I hope they do make a Motard. Man that would be great!

(http://rideapart.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2014-ducati-scrambler.jpg)

Oh, please use a round headlight. http://rideapart.com/2013/10/leaked-online-2014-ducati-scrambler-photo/ (http://rideapart.com/2013/10/leaked-online-2014-ducati-scrambler-photo/)

well it looks like a few details are set, hopefully, not that ugly headlight.

single front disc
spokes
double sided swingarm looks like the 899 but would likely dit on the 696???
nice fat seat for passenger but no grab handle?
bars are really high but with little sweep, awkward arm position?

why go retro ugly on the mirror but go modern with the light? designer must be drunk

That looks like they grabbed parts at random from a mixed pile of Ducati and other make parts and hammered it all together.

I would not count on any part of it other than frame, motor, and suspension.

Everything else is parts-bin, and not germane to the functional test.

Anything that can be changed while still meeting the performance requirements of the test, they will change.  They'll want to throw off the photogs they know are stalking it.

Really hoping they take their own cue from the sport classics and retain the look of yesteryear. It would be disappointing if it ended up looking like some mash of a KTM and Diavel (hate that headlight in the picture).

I imagine that's a Streetfighter headlight and a Monster 3-spoke wheel they put on the back just for testing. Even in the worst case scenario, one can put a classic round headlight on most anything!

He's eyetalian, of course he's drunk. It will have a round headlight.

http://www.way2speed.com/2013/10/ducati-scrambler-2014.html#.Um_Z0a_-jNk.scoopit (http://www.way2speed.com/2013/10/ducati-scrambler-2014.html#.Um_Z0a_-jNk.scoopit)

Looks like a tight fit for tall guys.

Not a fan of that swing arm.  It doesn't look any better here than it does on the 899.

Will reserve my final opinion until offical photos released.

Indeed, rims are a good indicator =)

Isn't that how the Monster line started?

This model could be my salvation . i own 4 Ducatis already but my most modern are my M750 and S4 , dont like any of the recent monsters with underseat exhausts  but I want a new bike , the BMW 9 retro is also a looker , and on my list , Triumph bonneville looks nice but its gutless to ride

The bike is clearly cobbled together at this point and hardly ready for the sales floor. It could well be they were testing a specific part and slapped a riding chassis together to test something. Be it wheel base, spring rates or what have you. I wouldn't get any panties in a bunch just yet.

Seems to me, if you want a Ducati scrambler you should just build one based on an old Gen 1 Monster or SS. Way cheaper, more unique.  :-\

http://www.way2speed.com/2012/09/jvb-moto-ducati-scrambler.html#axzz2kItGCrlg (http://www.way2speed.com/2012/09/jvb-moto-ducati-scrambler.html#axzz2kItGCrlg)

or;

http://www.way2speed.com/2012/08/ducati-super-sport-600-scrambler.html#axzz2kItGCrlg (http://www.way2speed.com/2012/08/ducati-super-sport-600-scrambler.html#axzz2kItGCrlg)

Buying a scrambler for retro looks appeal seems so non utilitarian...I just wish they'd bring the damn SC back. :(

Hopefully not a freakin' plastic tank!

Speaking of rolling your own; where can I get a SS laced hub?

Could this be a scale Ducati Scrambler prototype toy without the round headlight?

(http://benzinamagazine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/scrmbler-toy.jpg)

Looks like the Monster to me.

+1

Digging up an old thread. Just saw this potential rendering of the scrambler:

(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz345/chriskuecker/Ducati-Scrambler-illustration_zps79a977e2.jpg) (http://s842.photobucket.com/user/chriskuecker/media/Ducati-Scrambler-illustration_zps79a977e2.jpg.html)

 [puke]

I like it...I think.

Not horrible.

Seems to have strayed too far from what I picture when I hear "scrambler."

Too close to the HM.
I hope it won't look like that.

looks stunning, if you appreciate styling inspired by the Buell blast.

This

I liked the yellow one on the first post.  Not so keen on the latest render, it looks too much like the MV Rivale.  Plus it is OK at the moment, but add on practical things like a numberplate and indicators and see if it looks as good.

I think this rendering looks too much like the Ducati-replica Honda Grom. I too like the original yellow rendering much better. I hope they do something with some vintage styling queues.

 [bang]

It has what appears to be indicators on the front fork guards near the fender and rear on the beer tray.

How long you been workin' on [the Scrambler]?

Four and a half years.

It must be very good.

It's a piece of shit. Would anyone like to smoke some pot?

One aint enough.

 [puke] [puke] [puke]

Ducati Hypermoturd

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

 [clap]

I highly doubt that that pic is anywhere near accurate... doesn't make sense from a business perspective to reference the HYM as a design ethos for that line of bike.

I'm guessing that the spy shot headlight we've seen are just there to throw off the public.  That's a drop in replacement camouflage because almost everything else on a bike cant be hidden without fairings.

Fugly

I think it's funny how everyone always hates the newest Duc, yet somehow they become an acquired taste. Then there are some that I just hate more as time goes on, like the Diavel.

 Face it, Ducatis' are the ugliest bikes on the planet! That is why no one ever buys any of them! And they get uglier as time passes, that is why they always get cheaper on the used bike market! Those bevel heads are cheap as nuts!!

Ride one. And only the carbons look good. The base models plastics look like shit.

I'd love to ride a Diavel. They're just fugly

Up to now, the Diavel has really been the only bike that's not been nice to look at IMHO. Maybe the 999 was not the prettiest bike ever, but it does truly grow on you. This Scrambler seems to be leaning towards the Diavel in terms of looks.

It is the Ducaudi version of the Buell Blast.   [puke]

Now that's just mean.  ;D

Just got an email from Ducati.
Nothing is shown, but if the front picture is from real bike, does not look like to God Awful model in this thread:


(http://i58.tinypic.com/28iukw4.jpg)

http://vimeo.com/97701658 (http://vimeo.com/97701658)

(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz345/chriskuecker/ducati-scrambler-2015-teaser3_zpsb7ab9075.jpg) (http://s842.photobucket.com/user/chriskuecker/media/ducati-scrambler-2015-teaser3_zpsb7ab9075.jpg.html)

Really? Well wherever I go both the Diavel and my Paso(another Ducati model some called ugly) generate as much "oh wow" interest as my M900 which most consider to be a nicely modded monster. You cannot judge the Diavel by the taillights you saw pass you, wait till one comes to a stop sign or redlight and look at the whole bike.  [laugh] - Gene

Looks a hell of a lot better!

Looks like it's gonna have Hypermotard syndrome, tiny gas tank.

Not really diggin' the air gap on the front fender.

But it's just pictures... I'll wait til I get eyes on the real thing.

It looks to me like it's going to have conventional forks instead of upside down.

Chris,

Take a look at this still captured from the video. Those are USD forks!
http://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2015-Ducati-Scrambler-video-05.jpg (http://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2015-Ducati-Scrambler-video-05.jpg)

Another still on A&R shows that it has a license plate mount on the rear wheel ala Monster 1200. Does that mean single sided swingarm??
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2015-ducati-scrambler-confirmed/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2015-ducati-scrambler-confirmed/)

I really like what I see so far. Extra bonus points to Ducati on the round headlight.

I don't think it looks like a SSS.
The side view image, it doesn't look it to me.
And the sketch shows swingarm in front of the tire in a right side view.

Looks like a single front disc.

Minus, the Diavel-like rear splash guard.
Also, it needs a scrambler-like exhaust, but aftermarket will be happy to cope with the lack of thereof  ;D

Higher exposure pic shows more detail:

(http://i2.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2015-Ducati-Scrambler-video-02.jpg?resize=635%2C423)

Looks very bonnevilleish to me... not a bad look though

DSS and looks air cooled . . .

Another unconfirmed pic surfaced.  I think that looks like a SSS to me... ;D

(http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/04-04-12images/Patterson_still.jpg)

 [laugh] [clap]

You know. They may have got this one right (well right enough anyway).
Might be a winner with cross generational styling! What they should've done with the Monster imo.
Hipsters are gonna' love it! It might just attract some ol' farts too..

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Give me a 500cc class single with about 65-70 hp, and no more than 300lbs wet and I'll get excited.

I'm sorry, sir, this is the Ducati shop.

The KTM shop is next door.

ahem

they did it once, they can do it again

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hri9ATpC28g/TVqCfagYO_I/AAAAAAAAFTA/6op7kx3mVzw/s1600/DUCATI350scrambler-1.jpg)

What's that thing on the right side? An air filter, or a spare mag for a Tommy gun?  ;D

Italians has Bredas not Thompsons.  Air filter.

That engine never made 65-70 HP. Ever.

Not that there's anything wrong with the  65-70 HP under 300 lbs wet package you're asking for.
It's a fun scooter, for sure.
There's only 14 people in the US who would actually buy them.

oh, i know that one never made 65 hp.  or 56.. or anything north of 50. . i'm just saying it's in Ducati's DNA to have a single and given modern engines, they could do it.

a nice compact (narrow) single.

i believe more than 14 ppl would buy them.  Cagiva had a mailing list for the mito 500 that was proposed (wth a husqy single) and apparently they got about 10,000 signups.  if half of those would buy one, it's worth it.

people just need to try a lightweight bike (well, people under 300 lbs) and they love them.

[laugh] [laugh] [clap]

Problem I see with this is that Ducati's reputation in the US is embodied by the panigale, street fighter, monsters, etc.---namely, a sexy fast italian sport or at least "sport-ish" bike.  A < 300 lb one-cylinder fun bike doesn't fit that mold, so who would buy it?  Sure, die-hards like us might get one, but the scrambler crowd is more a hipster crowd, and they are all broke which is half the reason they ride around on beat up old hondas that cost under $1000.

If the "style" one is trying to capture is old, classic, worn, and grungy, why buy a relatively pricey new italian bike?  Not much market for $300 sweatpants.

I disagree about hipsters being too broke...the typical hipster I'm picturing are the silver spoon types who gentrify big cities. You can kinda tell this is exactly who Ducati is aiming at based on the promo vid. Over the last couple of years I've noticed a ton of them are picking up older UJM's and riding around in megaflake open faced helmets. I do hope you're right tho because I'm a bit loathsome of that ilk.

^
Yeah, I have the same visceral reaction to hipsters.  However, I'm in favor of anyone getting into biking or buying more bikes---regardless of how annoying they are or how insincere their intentions or whatever.  Simply put, the more bikers out there, the better it is for all of us.

And FTR: my broke comment was observational---I have no insight into a hipster's bank account but the ones around here ride old japanese bikes and modern bonnevilles, which both tend to be inexpensive.  They also tend to live in less expensive rent areas.  But yeah, it's an assumption.


But back to the duc scrambler....  I look forward to seeing the damn thing already without mysterious lighting or test-ride skins on or whatever.

You need to get out more.

http://observer.com/2014/01/most-expensive-sweatpants/ (http://observer.com/2014/01/most-expensive-sweatpants/)

^Haha.  I should have known... [roll]

fixed it for ya.  ;D

That was 24 BHP. How about 42+? Ticks all the other boxes. Rob a bank?  ;D

http://www.borile.it/gb_b450.html# (http://www.borile.it/gb_b450.html#)

(http://www.borile.it/imgs/b450_02.jpg)

I do not think it will sell well to the hipster crowd.  They hate florescent lights.   ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Gm5OGqw3U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Gm5OGqw3U)

Here's a first impression from someone you trust.  ;) They must have sorted the EFi as this prototype didn't have the 6-speed fitted at this time. http://www.borile.it/cs/CycleNews.pdf (http://www.borile.it/cs/CycleNews.pdf)

(http://images.bennetts.co.uk/Global/Bike%20Social/Ducati/Scrambler/450_Ducati%20Scrambler%20Final%2002.jpg)

I want one, especially with the retro rocket on the front!

(apparently the gear is for "noise testing" - but I'm thinking it's the best camouflage tease yet for a new vehicle intro: http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/june/new-ducati-scambler-spy-shots/?utm_source=twfb&utm_medium=social&utm_content=scramblerspyshots&utm_campaign=bikesocial#.U5hqZJRdXMF (http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/june/new-ducati-scambler-spy-shots/?utm_source=twfb&utm_medium=social&utm_content=scramblerspyshots&utm_campaign=bikesocial#.U5hqZJRdXMF))

They're orange cannons.

That tank looks really small.

That's OK, by law hipsters cannot live farther than 5 miles from a coffee shop.

It does, now that you mention it. Though I suppose that's kind of inevitable, given the way the '70s Scrambler aesthetic (with relatively small gas tanks) has kind of merged with the flat tracker/street tracker aesthetic (with REALLY small gas tanks).

I'm in the process of scrambler-izing a 1978 Yamaha XS650 to explore some of the gravel roads that are everywhere here in Northern Arizona. I'm planning to keep the larger, more bulbous Special gas tank, even though the Yamaha HT1 tank I have hanging in the rafters would look SO much cooler (but have about half the capacity)

The HT1 Tank looks like this:

(http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mTwfhYU8rd2bUy6k31iv_4Q.jpg)

While the Special Tank (which was chasing the chopper look) is this:

(http://www.mikesxs.net/parts/img600/64-7700.jpg)

I see that they fixed the head light.  *O*

(http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz345/chriskuecker/801441A0-12DA-4F61-990B-26A984A46514_zpsrndyhpql.jpg) (http://s842.photobucket.com/user/chriskuecker/media/801441A0-12DA-4F61-990B-26A984A46514_zpsrndyhpql.jpg.html)

I like what I see. Modding this thing would really be a hoot.

For a second I thought you posted a fuzzed picture of an XR1200.

Or a Buell Blast.....   [puke]

Now you're just being mean.  [laugh]

triumph scrambler was on my short list, so I'm excited to see what this will really look like/perform/cost.

(https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10480214_716376401744178_7291916467299459423_n.jpg)

I do not approve of that shade of yellow at all. 

It's probably Photoshop anyway. THIS is the color.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8029/7897365048_3f17f0841d_z.jpg)

Still don't approve.  [evil]

I am absolutely shocked the gear police didn't jump all over Lex Luther here

We're building a strong case. It takes time. Don't worry - we'll get him.

 [laugh]  [bow_down]  [laugh]

Chrome dome or chrome helmet. ;D

No worries it's one of those Lex Luther helmets from Russia

Apparently they revealed it at WDW but you weren't allowed to bring your cell phone into the showroom.  This is a "spy" shot, or whatever.  Pretty much nothing new here---same yellow, same tank, high bars---but a less IZ_ shot than Lex Luther above.

(http://i2.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/ducati-scrambler-spy-photo.jpg)

The frame does not look anything usual, from that pic ...

From the spy shot, it looks to be a 2 valve air-cooled motor.  I thought all new Ducatis were going to be 4 valve water cooled?  Is there hope for the return of air cooled models?

when is the public unveiling?  this is getting wearisome.

EICMA, I believe.

i feel like it's one of those big movie premieres where they tease and tease and tease, and run trailer after trailer, and then it's finally released to yawns.

just show us a picture already for pete's sake.

Better view:


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6pUO3_TWTww/U80YbDjerXI/AAAAAAAABos/P-4S-i4kGt8/w1715-h1347-no/IMG_6200+%2528ok%2529_mark.jpg_2000.jpg)

That's the worst photoshop I've seen in a while

Ouch. You're right  :-\
I trusted Motociclismo w/out inspection.

its photoshopped or sure but i think that is an actual test mule.

maybe trying to protect the source?
ducati trying to stir the pot by releasing a bizarrely shopped "spy" shot?

Like many of you, I'm tired of all the spy shots and speculation for what is a "meh" bike.  However, this one below I'm posting bc I'm curious what the open clutch cover thing on the left side is?  Just some design for the crankcase cover or is there a chance ducati will still have a dry cutch in its lineup?

(http://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ducati-scrambler-spy-photo.jpg)

It's the alternator side.

And it's just a styling element.

So the hipsters can feel the emotion of the engine turning.

Hipsters ruin everything. First they gentrify all the hidden gem city neighborhoods and cause the rent to skyrocket, now they're making $800 bikes expensive. Smh

Ducati's own tumblr site dedicated to the scrambler.  Pretty much says it all about the market they are targeting.  Interesting to see how this turns out.

http://scramblerducati.com/ (http://scramblerducati.com/)

Anyone read anything about price point?

Do we know how many CCs?

11ty billion.

that makes for one expensive valve adjustment.

The pictures look like the 696/796, It does not look to have an oil cooler in the pics so prob. the 696.  Though It also looks like it has the cable clutch so it could be a new motor.

Nahh, the valves are easy to do yourself, its the flux capacitor that's a b1tch.