Woke up early on my day off, carried my jacket and helmet line up under the bright sun for 2 hours...... finally got my 3G iphone in white! ;D
And I was the last one of this shipment ;D!!! the guy behind me was so pissed almost got in a fight with the armed security (can't believe they hired an armed one ???)
I hope Apple makes red ones to match my bike!! I highly recommend white to pearl white 696/848, they match perfect!!
The phone feels hair lighter than old one, thinner on both sides. Still sync all my contacts, songs, and videos.... of course need to sync my 696 as wallpaper [thumbsup]
Can't believe people are going to waste 2 hours of there life waiting for a phone. I guess with that kind of irrational train of thought it makes sense to hire armed guards. ;)
Quote from: Pakhan on July 12, 2008, 12:37:21 PM
Can't believe people are going to waste 2 hours of there life waiting for a phone. I guess with that kind of irrational train of thought it makes sense to hire armed guards. ;)
Yeah, keep your valuable 2 hours of your life enjoy the old school brick cell phone, oh...... may be you don't have cell phone.. ;D
My phone may be a brick, but I can throw it farther than you and beat up armed guards with it. [cheeky]
I don't think there is anything wrong with the new iphone, it seems really good. But I'll occupy my time with other things until I can just walk in and get one.
got my 1st gen iphone updated yesterday to the 2.0 software. It kicks ass! Now I wished I would've jailbreaked my phone ages ago...
posted from my new 3g iphone
I still refuse to sign any sort of contract with AT&T. I had them years ago...It made me want to pull my hair out. So until they sell one unlocked, I'm just going to have to do without....I would really like one though [cheeky]
I didn't buy the 1st gen one, but I absolutely love this phone. Plus it was 200 bucks, can't beat that for what you're getting.
My Mom is a VP over at Sprint and keeps talking all this mess about the Instinct (which I could get for free obviously, along with a 15/mo calling plan) and she was pissed when she saw the "sent from my iPhone" bit in my email. If you think AT&Ts cust serv sucks, try Sprint's.
i wont get an iPhone until it is free when you sign a service contract. maybe not even then...
i like my plane jane motorola just fine
How about you copy and paste a note about how much better an iphone is than anything else? Should be pretty easy to do...
Quote from: darylbowden on July 12, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
If you think AT&Ts cust serv sucks, try Sprint's.
that is why i'm sticking with T-mobile ;D
I use the old fashioned way of communicating,its called writing a letter. [thumbsup]
Quote from: darylbowden on July 12, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
[snip]
If you think AT&Ts cust serv sucks, try Sprint's.
Sprint really does have the worst customer service. I had to contact them 3 times just to get my phone and plan because they screwed it up the first 2 and never sent anything. Took a little over a month.
Quote from: jagstang on July 12, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
How about you copy and paste a note about how much better an iphone is than anything else? Should be pretty easy to do...
[laugh]
Quote from: Pakhan on July 12, 2008, 12:59:15 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with the new iphone, it seems really good. But I'll occupy my time with other things until I can just walk in and get one.
+1They're cool phones, but not worth waiting in line for... I grabbed one (without waiting) at a suburban phone shop mine ~13 hours after the people here who queued up for the midnight opening at the Apple Store. I was having coffee just around the corner from the Apple Store 24 hrs later (so 35 or so hrs after then went on sale), and there was _still_ a non-moving out the door and round the corner queue at the Apple Store (so, of course, I took a photo of them with my new iPhone...)
big
The 2.0 upgrade is nice however I thought the games were going to translate a little better.
Perhaps its Just crappy Launch title games to blame right now.
Quote from: jagstang on July 12, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
How about you copy and paste a note about how much better an iphone is than anything else? Should be pretty easy to do...
i think all the uproar over "missing" c&p is kinda funny considering my blackberry has that capability and i've never found a need to use it in the 8 years i've been carrying one.
posted from my sprint touch.
My boss has sn iPhone and he's jealous of my touch, the only thing I don't have that he does is is a whole bunch of songs on my phone, that's why I have an iPod
Quote from: darylbowden on July 12, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
If you think AT&Ts cust serv sucks, try Sprint's.
I would totally agree, but I have had sprint service for 8 years and never experienced any service issues, and I have travelled a lot.
Hell, the phone worked in Jackson, WY.
why wont sprint make a cool phone for Nextel?
Quote from: GotDuc on July 13, 2008, 07:36:08 AM
why wont sprint make a cool phone for Nextel?
Talk to Motorola
My company added the new iPhone to our phone options on Friday. We have to order our hardware and service plans through the AT&T corporate site, so I did. 8) I won't get my phone until Monday's Fed Ex shipment comes in, but at least I didn't wait in the line.
Quote from: GotDuc on July 13, 2008, 07:36:08 AM
why wont sprint make a cool phone for Nextel?
Cause Nextel is about to be sold, no money will be invested in that terrible company until it is.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 13, 2008, 06:56:45 AM
I would totally agree, but I have had sprint service for 8 years and never experienced any service issues, and I have travelled a lot.
Hell, the phone worked in Jackson, WY.
Ahh, not coverage, but customer service. Like, when you have a billing problem (which you will cause they're billing system is a joke), the customer service reps are morons and of no help at all.
Quote from: darylbowden on July 13, 2008, 09:27:15 AM
Cause Nextel is about to be sold, no money will be invested in that terrible company until it is.
to whom?
Quote from: GotDuc on July 13, 2008, 09:33:21 AM
to whom?
That hasn't been determined yet, but it's going to happen. Sprint would like nothing more than to dump Nextel. It was the single biggest mistake in company history. In addition to bringing on board a company that was going nowhere, the integration was horrible and it brought Nextel's billing system over (along with many other terrible implementations), which is the source of so many people's anger with Sprint.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on July 13, 2008, 02:28:38 AM
The 2.0 upgrade is nice however I thought the games were going to translate a little better.
Perhaps its Just crappy Launch title games to blame right now.
Wander off the beaten path (Super Monkey Ball, ZEN Pinball, Crash Bandicoot), and you can discover a couple quite good games (Trism - $4.99, Aurora Feint - free), both created for the iPhone specifically, and making good use of the specific attributes (touch, tilt) of the phone.
Quote from: ducati_tim on July 13, 2008, 08:53:57 AM
My company added the new iPhone to our phone options on Friday. We have to order our hardware and service plans through the AT&T corporate site, so I did. 8) I won't get my phone until Monday's Fed Ex shipment comes in, but at least I didn't wait in the line.
Wait... your company is my company. Hmmm, I think I'll be upgrading to a 3g then ;D
no cut and paste? really? That kills it for me. I have to edit documents with mine and for almost everything I need it means I don't have to carry a laptop around.
did the start of this thread really include a concern over matching the phone to the bike? honestly?
since we have some phone gurus here maybe you can help me out. Is there a difference in the speed of Sprint's EVDO and other carriers 3G? Are they the same thing with just different names?
Quote from: GotDuc on July 13, 2008, 07:36:08 AM
why wont sprint make a cool phone for Nextel?
They are supposed to be coming out w/ a new blackberry early this fall. It's gotta be better then the one they offer now (7100i) because it's a real POS. I had it for less then 2 months before I trashed it and got a Motorola flip phone.
Quote from: trenner on July 14, 2008, 09:30:10 AM
Aurora Feint - free
this game had my wife up till about 4am the other day
it's pretty damn addictive
seriously, she woke me up at one point to ask where my charger was
But does it work as a PHONE?
Since that about all I use a cell for is to talk to people.
Quote from: 55Spy on July 15, 2008, 02:48:19 AM
But does it work as a PHONE?
Since that about all I use a cell for is to talk to people.
here you go my friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNdw4CfbwQg
I had to order my iphone from at&t. I keep checking my email hoping to see the shipment notice in there but so far nothing. :(
Tool.
I work for a company that gets subcontracted by both AT&T and Sprint. They both suck. Just about every cellphone company sucks. You get better toys at AT&T and I would rather work out of Atlanta/Dallas/Bothell than from Kansas City. Sprint made a huge mistake buying Nextel. 3G tends to be slower, but not considerably. I'll stick to my Blackberry.
Quote from: derby on July 13, 2008, 06:22:21 AM
i think all the uproar over "missing" c&p is kinda funny considering my blackberry has that capability and i've never found a need to use it in the 8 years i've been carrying one.
I use copy/paste all the time on my Blackberry. For example, someone emails me a phone # and I want to add it to my address book.
Quote from: msincredible on July 15, 2008, 10:43:08 AM
I use copy/paste all the time on my Blackberry. For example, someone emails me a phone # and I want to add it to my address book.
that kind of stuff is covered on the iPhone... it's aware of certain types of info and you just click it and get options like "call" or "add contact". same with sending links to people.
having owned one for more than a year now, i can say that there have been a few times when i wished it had a regular copy/paste, but not as often as some detractors make it out to be.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 15, 2008, 11:12:20 AM
that kind of stuff is covered on the iPhone... it's aware of certain types of info and you just click it and get options like "call" or "add contact". same with sending links to people.
having owned one for more than a year now, i can say that there have been a few times when i wished it had a regular copy/paste, but not as often as some detractors make it out to be.
+1
My last phone was a blackberry and it's amazing how non-intelligent it is. So far, I haven't had a problem with the lack of cut/paste, but I'm sure at some point it'll piss me off.
Also, to whoever asked about the calling, I can't compare it to the old iPhone, but in comparison to the BB 8820 and the RAZR I had before that, I can say that the clarity is remarkable.
The biggest negative in my book is the battery life. You definitely need a car charger for this thing.
what are the various methods of purchasing an iphone? att store? apple store? is there a way to buy online?
Quote from: darylbowden on July 15, 2008, 12:40:44 PM
+1
My last phone was a blackberry and it's amazing how non-intelligent it is. So far, I haven't had a problem with the lack of cut/paste, but I'm sure at some point it'll piss me off.
Also, to whoever asked about the calling, I can't compare it to the old iPhone, but in comparison to the BB 8820 and the RAZR I had before that, I can say that the clarity is remarkable.
The biggest negative in my book is the battery life. You definitely need a car charger for this thing.
I have a 1st gen iphone and my battery life is taking a big hit with all the new apps, I am using my
phone more than ever. [bang] And I hate calling my iPhone a
phone, it is so much more than that.
I refer to it as "the toy" and "the pain in my ass".
Quote from: duccarlos on July 15, 2008, 02:05:12 PM
I refer to it as "the toy" and "the pain in my ass".
does "it" = "Cyrus"? [laugh]
Quote from: squidwood on July 12, 2008, 07:44:53 PM
I use the old fashioned way of communicating,its called writing a letter. [thumbsup]
That's quaint. So where do you stable your horse? LOL.
I kid, I kid. ;D
Quote from: Kaveh on July 15, 2008, 02:14:17 PM
does "it" = "Cyrus"? [laugh]
Actually, Cyrus = "why did Al Gore ever invent the interweb?"
I'd buy the iPhone 3g in a second if not for that fact that you need to use it on AT&T. That company is ridiculous, and I can't justify a 2-year contract with them. Lets compare my current iPhone with the 3G iPhone:
My Current iPhone on T-mobile:
1000 minutes for $39.99 (promotional plan from years ago)
Unlimited data for $5.99 (EDGE speeds, using the T-zones hack)
The new iPhone:
900 minutes w/ rollover would be $59.99.
3G data costs $30 per month.
That's $45 more than I'm paying now to bump me up to the faster speed --which doesn't work inside big buildings or outside of the city... I'm usually on WIFI, anyway.
I get the 2.0 firmware free anyway, so all I'd be gaining is a THICKER (marketed as "thinner," despite the fact that it is simply not true) phone and intermittently faster internet for $45 more per month. Should I do it? ??? (no)
I'm currently investigating whether a family plan and a government discount combined would make it a better deal. From what I found so far the answer there is no also, since they won't discount the data at all...
Quote from: Alex on July 15, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
I get the 2.0 firmware free anyway, so all I'd be gaining is a THICKER (marketed as "thinner," despite the fact that it is simply not true) phone and intermittently faster internet for $25 more per month. Should I do it? ??? (no)
You'd also be getting GPS, which makes Google Maps, Yelp! and others 1000x better. Plus, there's also the very real possibility that a turn-by-turn nav app will be coming soon using the GPS as well.
Quote from: Alex on July 15, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
That's $45 more than I'm paying now to bump me up to the faster speed --which doesn't work inside big buildings or outside of the city... I'm usually on WIFI, anyway.
same here
no way to justify the added monthly expense... plus you lose the 200 free texts with the new one
most bars have wifi, and that's the one place i find myself needing the internets the most
edge is fine for maps and such
GPS would be nice, but most of the time i don't navigate that way. typically i look at the map and plot out the next hour or so in my head rather than use the turn by turn features. the triangulation works well enough for that
Y'all just need to get a job that pays for your cell usage. My company ponies up for my cell and then people from work call me, email and text me 24 hours/day, 7 days...
I think I've been had :-\
^
my last company gave me a work cell, my boss asked why I didn't cancel my personal cell seeing as he would pay for any minutes used on my work cell. As soon as I was done working for the day, my work cell would be turned off, that's why I kept my personal cell.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 15, 2008, 04:41:30 PM
same here
no way to justify the added monthly expense... plus you lose the 200 free texts with the new one
most bars have wifi, and that's the one place i find myself needing the internets the most
edge is fine for maps and such
GPS would be nice, but most of the time i don't navigate that way. typically i look at the map and plot out the next hour or so in my head rather than use the turn by turn features. the triangulation works well enough for that
Agreed, GPS would be nice, but not really that great. I mean, I already have a perfect googlemap in front of me that I can zoom and stuff with, so what else could I need? I'm not stupid,
I know where I am... and if I didn't, I'd look at the next street sign. Turn by turn directions are for girls. You should be able to look at a map and figure out where you are going from that alone. Besides, we have no business staring down at our phones while we drive waiting for the next direction to pop up --watch the road!
Quote from: Alex on July 16, 2008, 11:20:56 AM
Agreed, GPS would be nice, but not really that great. I mean, I already have a perfect googlemap in front of me that I can zoom and stuff with, so what else could I need? I'm not stupid, I know where I am... and if I didn't, I'd look at the next street sign. Turn by turn directions are for girls. You should be able to look at a map and figure out where you are going from that alone. Besides, we have no business staring down at our phones while we drive waiting for the next direction to pop up --watch the road!
You sound bitter. Did Mr Jobs hurt your feelings? Did he touch you in inappropiate places?
Quote from: Alex on July 16, 2008, 11:20:56 AM
Agreed, GPS would be nice, but not really that great. I mean, I already have a perfect googlemap in front of me that I can zoom and stuff with, so what else could I need? I'm not stupid, I know where I am... and if I didn't, I'd look at the next street sign. Turn by turn directions are for girls. You should be able to look at a map and figure out where you are going from that alone. Besides, we have no business staring down at our phones while we drive waiting for the next direction to pop up --watch the road!
If you travel a lot (for work or otherwise), the GPS comes in very handy - especially when used in conjunction with other apps. Also, the turn-by-turn nav would use speakerphone and you wouldn't look at it any more than you look at a garmin or any other nav box.
Quote from: darylbowden on July 16, 2008, 11:44:14 AM
Also, the turn-by-turn nav would use speakerphone and you wouldn't look at it any more than you look at a garmin or any other nav box.
clearly, you've never tried to carry on a speakerphone conversation with the iPhone. that's the one part of the phone that is absolutely useless. unless you're in a studio sound booth, you can't hear a thing on it.... maybe they fixed that on the new one.
on the upside, 2.0 OS is awesome. appstore is great and finally delivers what this phone could've been all along... i.e., i'm currently listening to streaming live.fm on it over EDGE.
Can you send an MMS?
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 16, 2008, 11:56:48 AM
clearly, you've never tried to carry on a speakerphone conversation with the iPhone. that's the one part of the phone that is absolutely useless. unless you're in a studio sound booth, you can't hear a thing on it.... maybe they fixed that on the new one.
on the upside, 2.0 OS is awesome. appstore is great and finally delivers what this phone could've been all along... i.e., i'm currently listening to streaming live.fm on it over EDGE.
Do you have the new iPhone or the old iPhone? The 3G has a better speakerphone which I've used more than a few times to carry on a conversation while driving. is it the best one I've ever used? No. BUt it's certainly worked pretty well for me.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 16, 2008, 12:46:50 PM
Can you send an MMS?
I don't know if you're asking me, but no I can't. I can however email pics easily form the phone, which is fine for me since I've never used MMS even on phones that supported it.
Quote from: Alex on July 16, 2008, 11:20:56 AM
Agreed, GPS would be nice, but not really that great. I mean, I already have a perfect googlemap in front of me that I can zoom and stuff with, so what else could I need? I'm not stupid, I know where I am... and if I didn't, I'd look at the next street sign. Turn by turn directions are for girls. You should be able to look at a map and figure out where you are going from that alone. Besides, we have no business staring down at our phones while we drive waiting for the next direction to pop up --watch the road!
plus...the car has GPS. If i'm walking i usually know where I'm going, or I have a map....and It's usually in the middle of no where, where google maps couldn't pull up because there is no cell reception
yeah, i guess this is my point. if i didn't already have the 1st gen, i'd buy the new one, but the addition of 3g internet and GPS isn't enough to make me upgrade.
this is, by the way, the reason i liked the platform to begin with. most upgrades are software, so as far as i'm concerned, i have the new one.... it's all about the OS for me.
glad they fixed the crappy speaker phone though.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 16, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
yeah, i guess this is my point. if i didn't already have the 1st gen, i'd buy the new one, but the addition of 3g internet and GPS isn't enough to make me upgrade.
this is, by the way, the reason i liked the platform to begin with. most upgrades are software, so as far as i'm concerned, i have the new one.... it's all about the OS for me.
glad they fixed the crappy speaker phone though.
If I were in your boat, I would do the same. I waited for a year knowing that this was coming pretty soon and just stuck it out with my BB (terrible OS btw) until the 3g was released.
Quote from: darylbowden on July 16, 2008, 01:50:12 PM
my BB (terrible OS btw)
...but the gold standard in push email/contacts/calendar syncing and integration. microsoft exchange/activesync doesn't even come close.
If you own a 1st generation unit, sell it. You'll clear $300, which allows you to get the 16GB 3G unit.
For some reason, people on craigs and ebay are still buying them like nuts - afraid of a 2 year contract apparently.
I just sold mine yesterday.
Quote from: derby on July 16, 2008, 02:03:37 PM
...but the gold standard in push email/contacts/calendar syncing and integration. microsoft exchange/activesync doesn't even come close.
Yeah, the email was great. However, since I develop in OS X and (obviously) use it in my private life, the contacts/calendar syncing is much better on the iPhone for me. Plus, the calendar UI on the BB is the ugliest I've ever seen.
Quote from: Alex on July 16, 2008, 11:20:56 AM
Agreed, GPS would be nice, but not really that great. I mean, I already have a perfect googlemap in front of me that I can zoom and stuff with, so what else could I need? I'm not stupid, I know where I am... and if I didn't, I'd look at the next street sign. Turn by turn directions are for girls. You should be able to look at a map and figure out where you are going from that alone. Besides, we have no business staring down at our phones while we drive waiting for the next direction to pop up --watch the road!
You know, it's funny you say that, because it's only my male coworkers that depend on GPS, and it drives me crazy. I can usually find the place on my own while they are still busy programming the address into their GPS. [roll]
Quote from: darylbowden on July 16, 2008, 01:12:20 PM
Quote from: duccarlos on Today at 12:46:50 PM
Can you send an MMS?
I don't know if you're asking me, but no I can't. I can however email pics easily form the phone, which is fine for me since I've never used MMS even on phones that supported it.
+1.
I used to find most of my friends that I sent MMS's to from my old Nokia ended up having to view them online anyway - I use an appthat lets me uload straight from the phone to Flickr - I reckon it's way more useful (to me and my circle of friends) than MMS...
big
the big drawback with the lack of MMS is that if someone sends you something over MMS you don't get it. as far as i can tell, i never even get a notification that something was sent to me
MMS is a very basic function on just about any camera phone. My wife sends me MMS all the time. I think you can be innovative without having to comprimise what is considered to be basic functionality.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 17, 2008, 05:44:44 AM
the big drawback with the lack of MMS is that if someone sends you something over MMS you don't get it. as far as i can tell, i never even get a notification that something was sent to me
I believe you're supposed to get a message notifying you that you've been sent a picture message and you then have to go to a website and put in a username and password to see the pic.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 17, 2008, 06:37:18 AM
MMS is a very basic function on just about any camera phone. My wife sends me MMS all the time. I think you can be innovative without having to comprimise what is considered to be basic functionality.
I think it's the idea of the MMS is what apple doesn't want to support. Cell companies over charging for data... MMS is an email with a jpeg, something (when you have a data plan) you can do for free.
MMS is still around to take from your pocket, and with unlimited data plans, its just wrong. Someone has to step up to stay no more, and in a couple of years I bet we see them die. (Along with text, I cant believe they charge you for a couple of bytes.)
Apple did it will the floppy drive. They did it with the stupid pen and a touch screen. Hopefully will do it soon when standard harddrives go away. And hopefully CD/DVD burners altogether. (Just a stupid form of retarded media, IMO)
Email and IM. Way to be. I tell people who reg MMS me to send it to my email instead of my phone number, works well.
Quote from: Smiling End on July 17, 2008, 06:54:37 AM
I believe you're supposed to get a message notifying you that you've been sent a picture message and you then have to go to a website and put in a username and password to see the pic.
that's what i thought. i've tested it several times though and never gotten a message.
Quote from: rgury on July 17, 2008, 07:01:19 AM
I think it's the idea of the MMS is what apple doesn't want to support. Cell companies over charging for data... MMS is an email with a jpeg, something (when you have a data plan) you can do for free.
MMS is still around to take from your pocket, and with unlimited data plans, its just wrong. Someone has to step up to stay no more, and in a couple of years I bet we see them die. (Along with text, I cant believe they charge you for a couple of bytes.)
Apple did it will the floppy drive. They did it with the stupid pen and a touch screen. Hopefully will do it soon when standard harddrives go away. And hopefully CD/DVD burners altogether. (Just a stupid form of retarded media, IMO)
Email and IM. Way to be. I tell people who reg MMS me to send it to my email instead of my phone number, works well.
agreed entirely. with every point. but so long as 90% of my friends don't have email and do have MMS on their phones, it's not going to happen.
Quote from: Munch on July 16, 2008, 03:40:01 PM
If you own a 1st generation unit, sell it. You'll clear $300, which allows you to get the 16GB 3G unit.
For some reason, people on craigs and ebay are still buying them like nuts - afraid of a 2 year contract apparently.
I just sold mine yesterday.
When the first iPhone came out, I had my my managers from India in town in San Francisco for a meeting. They picked up a bunch for their team members, which I thought was pretty crazy. I mean, $400 is a lot of money in Bangalore. I was told yesterday that they sold their phones for $500 each to people who will not use the carrier that offers the new iPhone. [clap]
Quote from: duccarlos on July 16, 2008, 11:26:18 AM
You sound bitter. Did Mr Jobs hurt your feelings? Did he touch you in inappropiate places?
Ya, I sort of am. Mostly I'm just disappointed. The original iPhone was an amazing, groundbreaking release. It was (and still is) hugely better than any other phone out there, so much that even clones being released over a year later don't come close. How could I not get my hopes up for the upgraded version? I wanted another amazing, groundbreaking release --one that would be just as huge a leap forward relative to the first iPhone as the first iPhone was to everything else. What we got was a modest improvement, which although it would certainly be nice to have, unfortunately comes with a huge increase in monthly cost.
This is the reason first generation iphones still sell for up to $700 on Ebay (if unlocked). Even now, they are the best phones you can get from anywhere that can be used for a reasonable monthly price.
Quote from: msincredible on July 16, 2008, 05:15:04 PM
You know, it's funny you say that, because it's only my male coworkers that depend on GPS, and it drives me crazy. I can usually find the place on my own while they are still busy programming the address into their GPS. [roll]
There are exceptions to every rule (girls with Ducatis probably are exceptions to lots of them), but I stand by what I said about girls and directions. It's a generalization and nothing more. ;D
Apple is famous for launching great technology and then sitting back filling their pockets. Once they get more competition, they come up with something better. Happened with the iPod.
Quote from: Alex on July 17, 2008, 04:25:54 PM
This is the reason first generation iphones still sell for up to $700 on Ebay (if unlocked). Even now, they are the best phones you can get from anywhere that can be used for a reasonable monthly price.
For now. As soon as the hype dies down a bit, AT&T will be selling iPhone 3Gs for 599 with no contract, then you can take that to T-Mobile or wherever you like (well in the US only T-Mobile cause of the network compatibility).
Quote from: duccarlos on July 18, 2008, 09:15:30 AM
Apple is famous for launching great technology and then sitting back filling their pockets. Once they get more competition, they come up with something better. Happened with the iPod.
That's BS. Apple has released a new version of the iPod almost every 6-9 months since it was launched in 2001-2002. At first it was the storage and form factors that changed. Then they added color and photos. Next video. Then video on the smallest (Nano). And finally the touch screen with no wheel. There have been no less than 20 different products over a 7 year existence. That's almost 3 new models per year. Hardly sitting back for long.
Most argue the opposite saying that Apple releases a product and at a premium but then launches a better product at a cheaper price before the former becomes obsolete. The belief is it is profiteering off of early adopters and alienates their most ardent fans.
same with OSX.... release a new one for 129 every year whether you need it or not
Look at the first generation iPod. They were in no hurry to fix any of the issues, until the market was flooded with MP3 players, at which time they launch the shuffle, nao, video, etc.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 18, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
Look at the first generation iPod. They were in no hurry to fix any of the issues, until the market was flooded with MP3 players, at which time they launch the shuffle, nao, video, etc.
What are you talking about? The 2nd gen iPod came out very quickly, fixed a ton of issues, shrank in size and was closely followed by the 3rd gen which was even better.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 18, 2008, 12:43:42 PM
same with OSX.... release a new one for 129 every year whether you need it or not
So don't upgrade then. Plenty of people are still running 10.3. For me, each new OS version has introduced tons of new features/upgrades that are well worth the 129 bucks. And when snow leopard comes out, I'll be first in line.
Would you rather do it the MS way? Release a total POS once every 6 years and spend every day of those 6 years trying to fix all the issues that it was released with? No thanks, I prefer my software to work.
I agree with the sitting back analogy. The iPod definetely had upgrades (over many years), but there were incremental, just like the iPhone's was this time. Just enough to keep it fresh looking. In contrast, the first iPod ever was an unbelievable leap forward in ease of user interface and convenience, just like the first iPhone.
There's nothing wrong with any of this, they deserve to make money for being ahead of the pack and staying there. I just wish I could see a huge leap forward EVERY year! ;D
Quote from: darylbowden on July 18, 2008, 01:07:13 PM
Would you rather do it the MS way? Release a total POS once every 6 years and spend every day of those 6 years trying to fix all the issues that it was released with? No thanks, I prefer my software to work.
nope, linux.... every six months, free new version
that said i have 2 iBooks both running 10.3, just commenting that apple tends to release frequently across their entire product line. they also, tend to charge for these incremental upgrades.
personally, i just hang onto the old stuff as it tends to work well for quite a while and, apropos the original topic, they update their older hardware with software; i.e., i have a day 1 4g iPhone, but it's running the current software.... they've done the same with iPod firmware.
Quote from: cmorgan47 on July 18, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
nope, linux.... every six months, free new version
that said i have 2 iBooks both running 10.3, just commenting that apple tends to release frequently across their entire product line. they also, tend to charge for these incremental upgrades.
personally, i just hang onto the old stuff as it tends to work well for quite a while and, apropos the original topic, they update their older hardware with software; i.e., i have a day 1 4g iPhone, but it's running the current software.... they've done the same with iPod firmware.
This macbook I'm typing on has Ubuntu 8.0.4, XP SP2 (2 installs - one with IE6 and one with IE7), and of course, 10.5.4. They do release new versions frequently, but I don't see that as a bad thing.
Quote from: COWBOY on July 18, 2008, 12:26:55 PM
That's BS. Apple has released a new version of the iPod almost every 6-9 months since it was launched in 2001-2002. At first it was the storage and form factors that changed. Then they added color and photos. Next video. Then video on the smallest (Nano). And finally the touch screen with no wheel. There have been no less than 20 different products over a 7 year existence. That's almost 3 new models per year. Hardly sitting back for long.
Most argue the opposite saying that Apple releases a product and at a premium but then launches a better product at a cheaper price before the former becomes obsolete. The belief is it is profiteering off of early adopters and alienates their most ardent fans.
this is actually my favorite thing about apple. i love to watch the scramble for the next "big" (or small) high priced gadget. then a year later, the less cool kids come along and buy a better version for less [clap]
some mixed reviews out there on the 3g... primary cons being poor battery life, cheaper (plastic) construction, no video record, no copy and paste, crappy reception/quality in 3g mode, etc. also read some complaints about the email, but it has push, so not sure what the problem is... i hate phones that have all plastic cases. let's face it, a phone is going to get dropped.
plenty of pros too, 3g, browser, apps, screen quality... kind of on the fence a the moment.
another major con being the cost... not of the phone, but the 2 year lock in and high monthly rate.
I don't have a 3g version, but the first version has push email as well. I can tell you from FHE that the push email has been very sketchy lately. Sometimes it won't push all day and when I sign into my account on a computer I have like 20 emails. This has been recently as in the past month or 1.5 months, but especially bad now.
Quote from: Magnus on July 19, 2008, 08:54:10 AM
another major con being the cost... not of the phone, but the 2 year lock in and high monthly rate.
Which is no different than any other carrier that offers a 3G network. Blackberry data plans are just as expensive and sometimes (in my case) more than the iPhone plan.
T-Mobile is the comparison that everyone uses, but their coverage is weak in many places and their 3G network (while announced for the trillionth time) is non-existent.
And find me a carrier where you don't sign a contract to receive a subsidy on the phone and I'll show you a carrier who will be going out of business very soon.
who said i'm comparing it to a blackberry? i have another phone, 3g, push email, and it's not an iphone or a blackberry. and it has a 5 mp camera, video record, etc...
it's a tradeoff... you want an iphone, you get the good with the bad, just have to decide if it's worth the cost. i get most of what i need without a contract and at a monthly cost far below what an iphone would cost... but not all of it, otherwise i wouldn't be considering it.
question: if you just buy an iphone off ebay or something, would you be paying a lower monthly rate to at&t than if you bought the phone from them? is there a way to avoid the contract? i haven't seen many phones that would last for two years, and this thing just doesn't look that sturdy.
I dropped mine yesterday from about four feet up onto a deck. :-[ There is a tiny scratch on the back. it is nothing major.
Quote from: ducati_tim on July 19, 2008, 03:29:33 PM
I dropped mine yesterday from about four feet up onto a deck. :-[ There is a tiny scratch on the back. it is nothing major.
you dropped it up? iphone defies gravity!
Note that you can call AT&T and have them help disable 3G if you prefer longer battery life, but wasn't the point of the new upgrade to have 3G capability?
you can't disable 3g right on the phone?
I think you can, but I'm not sure how. It might be out on the web, but I know for a fact that you can call them and they'll walk to through it.
Quote from: Magnus on July 21, 2008, 12:26:44 PM
you can't disable 3g right on the phone?
Yes, you can do it on the phone and it takes about 5 seconds.
so how bad is the new battery life? i have one on order to replace my old iphone...but if the battery life is any shittier than the already shitty battery on the original, i will cancel
i've read the battery life is awful... but i don't have first hand experience.
daryl?
Quote from: Magnus on July 21, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
i've read the battery life is awful... but i don't have first hand experience.
daryl?
It lasts me all day, but I don't talk all day long either. I leave everything on (3G, Wi-Fi and push email) and it lasts me from 9am to at least 10pm when I plug it back in. If I were making calls all day or watching video all day, I'm sure it wouldn't last as long, but for my general purposes it's fine. I would say worst case scenario, maybe you have to plug it into the car charger after work if you've been on it all day.
thats not that bad
Quote from: darylbowden on July 21, 2008, 03:40:08 PM
It lasts me all day, but I don't talk all day long either. I leave everything on (3G, Wi-Fi and push email) and it lasts me from 9am to at least 10pm when I plug it back in.
I had mine give me the "Only 10% battery life remains" warning late Sunday night while browsing the World Superbike website during the second race - it hadn't been charged since Friday afternoon - I hadn't made many voice calls (maybe 6 or 8 calls total, almost certainly less than 10 mins of airtime), but I did spend most of 3 hours using wifi for email, web, twitter, maps, youtube etc at a cafe on Saturday, and quite a lot of other "showing off" since many of my friends still hadn't seen the new one. I currently run it with pretty much everything switched on except bluetooth (which I only turn on when I rarely need it).
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not bad at all actually... many smartphones out there are worse
Quote from: Magnus on July 21, 2008, 09:05:35 PM
not bad at all actually... many smartphones out there are worse
Gizmodo (admittedly staunch Apple fanbois) and PCWorld both have articles up which says the 3G iPhone beats many other other common smartphone for battery life:
http://gizmodo.com/5024804/iphone-3g-battery-life-beats-the-competition-apples-own-tests
http://www.pcworld.com/article/148348/3g_iphones_mediocre_battery_life_still_beats_rivals.html
(they could just be different reports on the same test, and seem to both leave out the CrackBerry...)
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i'm still amazed by the battery life on my 1st gen iphone...
i talk on it occasionally, but use email and internet all day.
I got notice last night that AT&T got the iphone in stock and shipped the one I ordered. I should be able to go pick it up after work today. I'm pretty excited. This will be my first foray into smartphones. I can't wait to have the internets on my phone.
OTOH, I'm a little dismayed to be leaving T-Mobile. I've been a customer of theirs for about 10 years (since they were Voicestream in NJ) and for some bizarre reason I feel bad about leaving.
I have to say I was disappointed with my 1st gen iphone battery life when I first got it. Of course, I was use to non-smartphone nokias that would last a week if you didn't use them much. Once I figured out that I should turn off wifi if I wasn't using it, and once I realized that I was getting 5 hours of usage on it (mostly internet), I have to say the battery life is more than acceptable. I'd never call it amazing like some have though.
If the 3G battery is a lot worse, I'll probably wait until they bring out the 32GB version to see if they upgrade the battery.
How much faster is the net on the 3G version in real life? I know they say twice, but how noticable is the difference?
it's funny on the battery.
all my friends who had previously used regular phones complained about it
all my friends who had previously used smart phones loved it
i thought it was better than my laptop, so i was happy
It's considerably faster. If you run on wi-fi all the time, then it's not that impressive.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 22, 2008, 07:39:38 AM
It's considerably faster. If you run on wi-fi all the time, then it's not that impressive.
In your opinion, is it worth the extra $10 per month and the loss of text messages (well, included text that is)?
You add GPS, and faster net, and that'd pretty much it as far as added features over a 1G with 2.0 upgrade right?
In my opinion no, but I'm in the minority. I work for AT&T and both iPhone launchs have created more work and worries than I care to admit. So I have personal issues to deal with. If you have the first gen iPhone I would suggest waiting for the 2nd gen to lower in price or wait for the 3rd gen that should be sick.
Quote from: duccarlos on July 22, 2008, 09:22:23 AM
In my opinion no, but I'm in the minority. I work for AT&T and both iPhone launchs have created more work and worries than I care to admit. So I have personal issues to deal with. If you have the first gen iPhone I would suggest waiting for the 2nd gen to lower in price or wait for the 3rd gen that should be sick.
any word on what's in store for the 3rd gen?
Not yet, but I presume it's going to be smaller with better video capabilities.
Funny, I was sitting at lunch with a buddy who has the 1st gen phone. We compared signals - I had 1bar, he had 3 and he was able to load web pages faster on the older network.
3G doesn't have the full coverage that its predessor has. ???
BTW I'm in Denver, not in the boonies.
On a side note, I pre-ordered at AT&T and am awaiting delivery. Was able to walk into Apple today, and they had some in. Wondering if I'll still be able to get the one at AT&T?
Quote from: Munch on July 22, 2008, 02:12:27 PM
Funny, I was sitting at lunch with a buddy who has the 1st gen phone. We compared signals - I had 1bar, he had 3 and he was able to load web pages faster on the older network.
3G doesn't have the full coverage that its predessor has. ???
BTW I'm in Denver, not in the boonies.
On a side note, I pre-ordered at AT&T and am awaiting delivery. Was able to walk into Apple today, and they had some in. Wondering if I'll still be able to get the one at AT&T?
I ordered mine from an AT&T store on the 11th and it came in yesterday. I picked it up last night, ported my number over no problem and so far I'm loving it.
you wont be able to do both Munch... they will check your account to see it was already activated.
So I got my phone last night. So far I think I wasted my money. This isnt any faster to me than the original and the GPS is a joke....it updates as fast as the tower triangulation did. Rip off so far.
Add to that an $18 "upgrade" charge and a 10% restocking fee when you find out that it is a POS... [bang]
Bottom line...if you have the old iphone, keep it and upgrade the OS that just came out. You arent missing a damn thing
Quote from: ducducgooseme on July 23, 2008, 07:55:02 AM
Bottom line...if you have the old iphone, keep it and upgrade the OS that just came out. You arent missing a damn thing
good to know, that's what i thought. plus, i got a brand new 1st gen under warranty about 2 weeks before the new one launched. sticking with this one, waiting to see what android has to offer later this year
Quote from: ducducgooseme on July 23, 2008, 07:55:02 AM
Bottom line...if you have the old iphone, keep it and upgrade the OS that just came out. You arent missing a damn thing
isn't that pretty much what all the reviews said?
Quote from: ducducgooseme on July 23, 2008, 07:55:02 AM
you wont be able to do both Munch... they will check your account to see it was already activated.
So I got my phone last night. So far I think I wasted my money. This isnt any faster to me than the original and the GPS is a joke....it updates as fast as the tower triangulation did. Rip off so far.
Add to that an $18 "upgrade" charge and a 10% restocking fee when you find out that it is a POS... [bang]
Bottom line...if you have the old iphone, keep it and upgrade the OS that just came out. You arent missing a damn thing
I can't speak for the old iPhone cause I never had one, but my 3G is MUCH faster than my BB was on the EDGE network. Maybe Los Angeles has better coverage? I dunno. Also, with the old triangulation, it was very inaccurate, whereas I find the GPS to be both fast and incredibly accurate.
That said, if I had an old iPhone, I probably wouldn't have upgraded, but since I didn't I couldn't be happier.
Has anyone with an old iphone ever tried the external batteries?
There's a few 'mods' that you can attach an external battery to the phone: http://news.bostonherald.com/business/technology/reviews/view/2008_07_24_Battery_choices_are_limited_for_iPhones/srvc=home&position=7
I'm thinking about getting the new iphone, but I'm real worried about the battery life.
Quote from: ducducgooseme on July 23, 2008, 07:55:02 AMBottom line...if you have the old iphone, keep it and upgrade the OS that just came out. You arent missing a damn thing
Yeah, except for those of us who don't have EDGE networks to connect too and have to subsist on GPRS on a 1st gen. I'm pretty happy with the money I spent for the 3G one.
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Very happy with my new iPhone, I got 2 8G and 1 16G [thumbsup] Apps Store is awesome :)
I've been very happy so far, that is, until I realized I'm not getting text messages from anyone not on AT&T. I called AT&T and everything is ok with my account and I get texts from other AT&T customers. I googled the problem and found a few people experiencing similar problems and people online say that it's because I ported a number from a different carrier that it could take the SMS servers a few days to realize the number has been ported. I'm hoping thats what the issue is.
Quote from: Smiling End on July 24, 2008, 06:08:10 AM
I've been very happy so far, that is, until I realized I'm not getting text messages from anyone not on AT&T. I called AT&T and everything is ok with my account and I get texts from other AT&T customers. I googled the problem and found a few people experiencing similar problems and people online say that it's because I ported a number from a different carrier that it could take the SMS servers a few days to realize the number has been ported. I'm hoping thats what the issue is.
The same thing happened to me when I ported from Verizon to AT&T. It took them about 3 weeks to fix the problem.
Quote from: turtherlips on July 24, 2008, 12:54:21 PM
The same thing happened to me when I ported from Verizon to AT&T. It took them about 3 weeks to fix the problem.
That's reassuring. :(
Did they give you the same story that it wasn't a problem on their end?
Quote from: Smiling End on July 24, 2008, 01:29:05 PM
That's reassuring. :(
Did they give you the same story that it wasn't a problem on their end?
Absolutely. Fortunately, I still had my Verizon phone. I turned it on and about 20 text messages came through. Once I told them that, they realized they forgot to port the data portion of it. I was ballin' walking around with 2 phones for a week.
Good Luck!
Quote from: Munch on July 22, 2008, 02:12:27 PM
Funny, I was sitting at lunch with a buddy who has the 1st gen phone. We compared signals - I had 1bar, he had 3 and he was able to load web pages faster on the older network.
3G doesn't have the full coverage that its predessor has. ???
I've had a 1G iPhone since June last year and my signal strength was the same through every firmware upgrade until this last 2.0 one. After I upgraded to the 2.0 the signal is significantly lower and sometimes I have no signal at all. There is a 2.1 version already released to developers and I truly hope that it fixes this issue.
Quote from: julianista on July 28, 2008, 07:18:57 PM
I've had a 1G iPhone since June last year and my signal strength was the same through every firmware upgrade until this last 2.0 one. After I upgraded to the 2.0 the signal is significantly lower and sometimes I have no signal at all. There is a 2.1 version already released to developers and I truly hope that it fixes this issue.
http://www.dansdata.com/gz084.htm
Are you _only_ noticing differences in what the signal strength meter is saying, or are you actually experiencing less real world performance than the old one?
If anything, my gut feel says my new 3G one gets marginally better (phone) reception in poor signal areas, but I gotta admit I almost never look at the signal strength meter so I've got no idea whether it's _displaying_ any differently...
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Quote from: bigiain on July 28, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
http://www.dansdata.com/gz084.htm
Are you _only_ noticing differences in what the signal strength meter is saying, or are you actually experiencing less real world performance than the old one?
If anything, my gut feel says my new 3G one gets marginally better (phone) reception in poor signal areas, but I gotta admit I almost never look at the signal strength meter so I've got no idea whether it's _displaying_ any differently...
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I've had AT&T for more than 3 years now and prior to the iphone I had a motorola Razor. The signal strength of the razor was poor in my house (still at the same house today) but when I bought the iPhone last year, I noticed that I had better reception and fewer dropped calls. I updated through every firmware and the signal strength was never affected. Until now. With 2.0 I drop calls in my house like when I was using the motorola razor. My buddy updated his 1st gen iphone to the 2.0 and he has noticed the same thing. The only reason why I haven't downgraded the firmware yet to solve this issue is because the 2.1 will be released soon to the general public and that SHOULD fix it.
Good article by the way..
I've tried to get one now for 2 straight days here in NYC. I've got one of the flagship Apple stores about 6 blocks from my office. Last night - lines throughout the store and out on 5th Avenue.
This morning, I learn the actual "How to buy an iPhone" process.
Well, you stand in line for a voucher. The voucher tells you what day and what time to come back to buy your iPhone. While you get your voucher, you get pre-approved by AT&T for the phone service.
Then when it comes to your time and day, you wait in line for the phone, then wait in line for service activation.
I gave up when I heard the words "stand in line" [bang] [bang] [bang] promptly walked to my office.
I can wait. [popcorn]
Or you could just order one from AT&T and they'll call you when it's delivered to the store. Then all you have to do is go to the store to pick it up and activate it at the store.
Quote from: tommys67 on July 29, 2008, 05:35:02 AM
I gave up when I heard the words "stand in line" [bang] [bang] [bang] promptly walked to my office.
I can wait. [popcorn]
Yeah, like I said upthread, they're a nice phone, but they aren't worth waiting in line for...
I was amazed people were still queuing up here in Sydney the day after they went on sale - I'm flabergasted that people are waiting in line for a phone that's been available for 3 weeks now!
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Quote from: jagstang on July 12, 2008, 07:10:03 PM
How about you copy and paste a note about how much better an iphone is than anything else? Should be pretty easy to do...
you are a very very bad man....
;D ;D
Quote from: eyeboy on July 29, 2008, 06:43:09 AM
you are a very very bad man....
;D ;D
this will be possible with 2.1... it is speculated..
So stupid me plays the game and gets the voucher at 6:50 am this morning. I go back at 8:30. At 9:55 I'm walking back to my office with a new iPhone 8)!!!!
1 hour and 14 minutes later I'm walking back to return it.
NOWHERE in Apple documentation does it say it doesn't work AT ALL with MS Windows 2000...
[bang] [bang] [bang]
The 3G iPhone is completely worthless to me if I can't sync it to my computer at work.
Since I ported my number, getting my current phone and service to work again has resulted in a) a new 1 year contract 2) a phone that doesn't work - yet and 3) the horrible feeling like I landed a date with a supermodel - and she got up from dinner to go to the bathroom - and never came back. :-\.
I live my life as a warning to others.
Quote from: tommys67 on July 30, 2008, 01:18:02 PM
NOWHERE in Apple documentation does it say it doesn't work AT ALL with MS Windows 2000...
why are you running an end of life'd OS?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
Quote from: tommys67 on July 30, 2008, 01:18:02 PM
NOWHERE in Apple documentation does it say it doesn't work AT ALL with MS Windows 2000...
I returned mine because the documentation didn't say that it would not cook my breakfast and wash my bike. There was a whole lot of stuff that manual didn't say it wouldn't do. >:(
sac
[cheeky]
Quote from: derby on July 30, 2008, 02:10:19 PM
why are you running an end of life'd OS?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
+1
Why would you expect Apple to support an MS OS that even MS doesn't support. Due diligence my friend.
Quote from: derby on July 30, 2008, 02:10:19 PM
why are you running an end of life'd OS?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
I have no choice... My employer (NYSE - C) is a freaking dinosaur. >:(
My goal - and it's a good one 8) - is to have one device have my work calendar, all my contacts AND all my music on one device that ALSO has good internet access. I could care less about getting work email.
Yes - I forgot to do just that ONE EXTRA STEP of due diligence. Shoot me...
Quote from: SacDuc on July 30, 2008, 02:27:30 PM
I returned mine because the documentation didn't say that it would not cook my breakfast and wash my bike. There was a whole lot of stuff that manual didn't say it wouldn't do. >:(
sac
[cheeky]
but it gives a mean .. oh never mind, that isnt documented.
Quote from: tommys67 on July 30, 2008, 02:30:48 PM
I have no choice... My employer (NYSE - C) is a freaking dinosaur. >:(
My goal - and it's a good one 8) - is to have one device have my work calendar, all my contacts AND all my music on one device that ALSO has good internet access. I could care less about getting work email.
Yes - I forgot to do just that ONE EXTRA STEP of due diligence. Shoot me...
does citigroup have an it/security policy that allows you to tether what basically amounts to a cellular modem to machines on the local area network? my guess is "no".
if "yes," i'm really scared.
hell, WE don't even allow multifunction printer/fax machines to be connected to both the network and a phone line.
Quote from: derby on July 30, 2008, 04:21:23 PM
does citigroup have an it/security policy that allows you to tether what basically amounts to a cellular modem to machines on the local area network? my guess is "no".
I was wondering the same thing.
Quote from: derby on July 30, 2008, 04:21:23 PM
does citigroup have an it/security policy that allows you to tether what basically amounts to a cellular modem to machines on the local area network? my guess is "no".
Well, I know I can't bring in my own computer and hook it to the systems.
I was just hoping to get what I have with my Motorola Q and MS ActiveSync - access to my Outlook Calendar and Contacts.
My Crackberry is linked to the Exchange server, and managed through IT.
It took me about 3 months to get ActiveSync on my desktop several years ago.
Quote from: tommys67 on July 30, 2008, 05:23:55 PM
Well, I know I can't bring in my own computer and hook it to the systems.
I was just hoping to get what I have with my Motorola Q and MS ActiveSync - access to my Outlook Calendar and Contacts.
My Crackberry is linked to the Exchange server, and managed through IT.
It took me about 3 months to get ActiveSync on my desktop several years ago.
blackberries sync via an enterprise server that interacts directly with the mail server.
if you're trying to sync to exchange via activesync, your desktop OS shouldn't matter. that's a connection between the phone and the email server.
Quote from: tommys67 on July 30, 2008, 05:23:55 PM
Well, I know I can't bring in my own computer and hook it to the systems.
I was just hoping to get what I have with my Motorola Q and MS ActiveSync - access to my Outlook Calendar and Contacts.
My Crackberry is linked to the Exchange server, and managed through IT.
It took me about 3 months to get ActiveSync on my desktop several years ago.
So, do you already have 2 different phones then? In that case, why would you want your work calendar and email on your personal phone.
For some reason, having my complete calendar on my cell works for me - I like having everything on one device. I've been doing this for at least 5 years - I had an old smartphone (Motorola MPx220) that did the same thing. I'm not the most organized person, but having my calendar and contacts available whenever I have my phone is comforting to me.
My work email I could care less about - if I need to be on top of it, I bring the blackberry along. The blackberry is old, provided by the co., paid for by the co, and does NOT have the cell phone activated.
With ActiveSync, the device still needs to be found and recognized by the program. I tried two different versions of ActiveSync - never found the iPhone. Win2K kept "finding new hardware" and seeking a driver that "may or may not be needed" - I loved that last bit.
A quick Google search for any permutation of "iPhone" and "Windows 2000" found articles and forums all saying the same thing - it don't work.
Are we done with the inquisition now guys? Please?
So, I just upgraded from the Edge to the 3G yesterday- still a 5 person line at the apple store. GPS with maps is pretty cool, and the single greatest feature (in my opinion) is that you don't have to use that dumb shit headphone adapter if you don't use the apple buds.
One question- my Edge iPhone charged and played music with no problem with my Monster Cable FM modulator, but the 3G will play music but not charge. Any ideas?
yeah, the headphone thing sucks. i ended up carving mine out a bit with an xacto knife.
i know my 1g phone didn't charge on the accessories that charged my iPod... it would actually drain the battery. probably something similar. not sending the correct amps.
I got mine yesterday. I love it so far. I had the screen brightness on high and the 3G and GPS on for the first day and I couldn't figure out why the battery only lasted me until lunch time. I turned off the GPS, adjusted the brightness and changed some email settings for today's experiment. I'm still at a full battery after 7 hours. Not bad [thumbsup]
Anyone try this?
http://gizmodo.com/5030749/iphone-apps-we-like-dynolicious-car-performance-meter
Quote from: rgury on July 31, 2008, 02:46:34 PM
Anyone try this?
http://gizmodo.com/5030749/iphone-apps-we-like-dynolicious-car-performance-meter
Now that seems pretty cool!
Got mine ;D
And then found out after I imported my music into Itunes that my files are a mess.
23G of music in 117 genres :o missing album art, track names, you name it gonna take me months to sort it out. Oh well.