Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

[DRKWNG]

they got dookie for suspenders on 'em.  like they're filled with fish 'n' chips.

Not when you compare equivalent models. A street triple R will run circles around a 796 in all aspects, AND has three way adjustable suspension to boot. Couple that with the STR's metal tank and you have a winner.

[ducatiz]

Yes, Triumph makes great bikes.  Oh, they also have plastic tank problems.

I don't know what their response to their owners with the tank problems has been, but I do know that Triumph has completely dropped plastic tanks in their lineup.

Maybe they don't have rotomolding in Thailand.

[ducpainter]

<snip> but I do know that Triumph has completely dropped plastic tanks in their lineup.

probably a good call.

[Howie]

I don't know what their response to their owners with the tank problems has been, but I do know that Triumph has completely dropped plastic tanks in their lineup.

Maybe they don't have rotomolding in Thailand.

Yep, gone for 2012.  More than a few distorted Tigers and Speeds Triples out there though.  I have no real info on how they handled the problem. 

[ducatiz]

If anyone is concerned as to whether tank coatings will adhere and last with a nylon tank, I've got a whitepaper coming which looks at the specific forms of epoxy used in the Caswell and 3m products. 

Suffice to say, they are among the class of compounds considered "preferred adhesives" when used with polyamides. 

More later...

[convict]

you are right - I don't own a ducati. I wanted one. And yes some triumphs do have the same problem as I noted. so do bimmers aprilia, etc and. And yes triumphs does source and build world wide, but seriously you think that everything on your ducati is italian. And yes I did only just join this forum to post my "rant". Heres the thing, I am not arguing which is better, I dont give a shoot.  I was trying to answer the question one of your friends posted in this chat "who is gonna buy our used bikes".  I can't speak for others but your tanks are almost dangerous and riding is stupid enuff without this extra problem. And ducati has been selling these tanks for years and done nothing about it. It does not speak well for them and does affect your resale value.  grow up.

[Howie]

you are right - I don't own a ducati. I wanted one. And yes some triumphs do have the same problem as I noted. so do bimmers aprilia, etc and. And yes triumphs does source and build world wide, but seriously you think that everything on your ducati is italian. And yes I did only just join this forum to post my "rant". Heres the thing, I am not arguing which is better, I dont give a shoot.  I was trying to answer the question one of your friends posted in this chat "who is gonna buy our used bikes".  I can't speak for others but your tanks are almost dangerous and riding is stupid enuff without this extra problem. And ducati has been selling these tanks for years and done nothing about it. It does not speak well for them and does affect your resale value.  grow up.

Great second post too

[ducpainter]

you are right - I don't own a ducati. I wanted one. And yes some triumphs do have the same problem as I noted. so do bimmers aprilia, etc and. And yes triumphs does source and build world wide, but seriously you think that everything on your ducati is italian. And yes I did only just join this forum to post my "rant". Heres the thing, I am not arguing which is better, I dont give a shoot.  I was trying to answer the question one of your friends posted in this chat "who is gonna buy our used bikes".  I can't speak for others but your tanks are almost dangerous and riding is stupid enuff without this extra problem. And ducati has been selling these tanks for years and done nothing about it. It does not speak well for them and does affect your resale value.  grow up.

If riding is stupid...

why do want a second bike? I'd think you could use up your allotment of stupid with the one you claim to own.

See here's the deal...I don't think you own a bike. I think you're just a troll.

In that vein...


258Troll_spray by nh_painter, on Flickr


[hope it works this time.]

[junior varsity]

enuff you guys!  (because its enough letters fewer than 'enough' to make the change to enuff worthwhile.)   


grammar and spelling: not just for grade school book reports.

[duccarlos]

I thought I had posted this earlier... don't feed the troll.

[wantingaduc]

I have a practical question to ask.
Living in NJ I put my Monster away for the bulk of the season.
I would think it would be best to store it with as near an empty tank as possible to avoid the fuel from sitting and swelling the tank.
Does this sound reasonable to anyone else?

jimi

[thought]

I have a practical question to ask.
Living in NJ I put my Monster away for the bulk of the season.
I would think it would be best to store it with as near an empty tank as possible to avoid the fuel from sitting and swelling the tank.
Does this sound reasonable to anyone else?

jimi

commonly held thought is if your tank is metal or coated, fill it up.  if it's plastic or uncoated, drain it for the winter.

[Howie]

Or, if you can get fuel without ethanol a full tank with stabil.

A second option is ride through the winter.

[Curmudgeon]

Or, if you can get fuel without ethanol a full tank with stabil.

[ducatiz]

Or, if you can get fuel without ethanol a full tank with stabil.

A second option is ride through the winter.

i am beginning to think Stabil etc are a non starter.  I think they might help for a short period of time but for a stored bike would not help at all and given Stabil's primary ingredient is an alcohol, it might make things worse.

Just in case anyone missed this:

If anyone is concerned as to whether tank coatings will adhere and last with a nylon tank, I've got a whitepaper coming which looks at the specific forms of epoxy used in the Caswell and 3m products. 

Suffice to say, they are among the class of compounds considered "preferred adhesives" when used with polyamides. 

More later...