Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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ducatiz

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CDawg

Quote from: ducatiz on December 27, 2011, 07:39:17 AM
Was this a new tank or a used tank that you coated?

This was a brand new tank.  The Caswell was not diluted.

ducatiz

Quote from: CDawg on December 27, 2011, 08:31:49 AM
This was a brand new tank.  The Caswell was not diluted.

yeah, that's pretty weird.  especially with a new tank, there shouldn't be any adhesion issues at all.  my tank had had gasoline in it for 2 months when i drained, cleaned and dried it.  over a year later now on the same coating.

how long has yours been coated and what are you going to do? 

i'd want to see inside that tank to see what the coating is doing.  if you can't see any obvious problems, then there may be gaps in the coating.. it is very hard to say.

there are formulations of epoxy that adhere directly to nylon without an prep, but with a virgin tank there should be any issue for almost any formulations.
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jgrm1

This is interesting as I am receiving a new tank (my third) this week.  I plan to trailer the bike to the dealership with an empty tank, so they will not fill my new tank with fuel.  This gives me the option to line a virgin tank once I get home.  Keep us posted CDawg.

-Jeff
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DRKWNG

There's been a fair number of SC owners over on .MS that have reported tank swelling after their tanks had been coated for a while.  Still think I might be selling mine as soon as the new tank gets installed.
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twolanefun

Quote from: DRKWNG on December 27, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
There's been a fair number of SC owners over on .MS that have reported tank swelling after their tanks had been coated for a while. 

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CDawg

Quote from: ducatiz on December 27, 2011, 08:40:06 AM
how long has yours been coated and what are you going to do? 

I've had my second tank since middle of last summer.  To be honest, I'm getting to the point where I think I should just save up the $5k and replace it with a metal tank and be done with the drama.  I'm not particular to the monster tank...maybe the new panegale tank it can be made to fit nice.

ducatiz

Quote from: DRKWNG on December 27, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
There's been a fair number of SC owners over on .MS that have reported tank swelling after their tanks had been coated for a while.  Still think I might be selling mine as soon as the new tank gets installed.

i haven't heard any of this. 

i would like to know the particulars of their tank and coating.

the multi people i've been in touch with haven't had any issues at all -- over 2 years and counting,
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twolanefun

Quote from: CDawg on December 28, 2011, 05:56:51 AM
To be honest, I'm getting to the point where I think I should just save up the $5k and replace it with a metal tank and be done with the drama. 
$5K?  You can get one of the Ducati Custom tank/body kits for $1700 and a few mods and you are done.
"I know a few roads"
92' PASO 907ie
02' M900 54K+ Miles
04' ST3 58k+miles - Sold
01' Victory Sportcruiser 30K miles, 04' Victory Kingpin - 111K+ miles
09' XR1200 - 15K+ miles
13' Diavel - 13K+ Miles Pay attention and things will be okay
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jgrm1

Quote from: Grifo on December 28, 2011, 06:08:19 AM
Or one of those Japanese hand made aluminum tanks [drool]

Yep, only $2344 delivered at today's conversion rate.  Add $258 for polishing.

http://www.moto-works.jp/beater/index.html#d9

-Jeff
BMW:  2016 R1200RS, 2000 R1100S, 1975 R90S
Ducati:  2008 S2R1000, 1998 900 Supersport Final Edition
Norton:  1974 Commando 850
Triumph:  2016 Thruxton R, 1971 T120R

CDawg

So I'm actually saving $2.5K by going aluminum!  I'm going to see how bad the Caswell coated expansion gets over the winter, but a metal tank is likely in the future.

ducatiz

Quote from: CDawg on December 28, 2011, 07:03:54 AM
So I'm actually saving $2.5K by going aluminum!  I'm going to see how bad the Caswell coated expansion gets over the winter, but a metal tank is likely in the future.

are you draining the tank or just letting it sit like that?

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CDawg

Quote from: ducatiz on December 28, 2011, 07:09:13 AM
are you draining the tank or just letting it sit like that?

I'm going to let it sit in gas with Stabil.  I bought the bike in 2008 so I still have a couple of years on the emission warranty for a new one...I'm thinking if I can get another replacement tank and then ebay it to help pay for the metal tanks......

ducatiz

Quote from: CDawg on December 28, 2011, 07:22:21 AM
I'm going to let it sit in gas with Stabil.  I bought the bike in 2008 so I still have a couple of years on the emission warranty for a new one...I'm thinking if I can get another replacement tank and then ebay it to help pay for the metal tanks......

Stabil isn't going to help.  Isopropanol (alcohol) and naphtha.  It is good as a temporary solution to freshen gasoline, but so far the only additive I've see that has anything but alcohol, naphtha or kerosene as an ingredient is K100.  K100 is the only one willing to show me an outside test of their product as well.
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