Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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So I stopped by Pro Italia this weekend.  The service desk was busy but one the techs was EXTREMELY helpful and kind and took pictures of the tank and filled out the proper paperwork.  While he was taking pictures the main service person yelled from behind his desk and said that "the tank MUST NOT be touching the frame" in order to submit a successful claim. I found this a bit odd as the front latch is practically impossible to remove and further more, the first tank that was replaced (by them) had no pictures taken an was approved in a week or so.

Needless to say they were going to submit the claim but both they and DNA were "backed up" so I wouldn't have a response on the tank being approved/denied for replacement until at least 3 to 4 weeks.

sbrguy

has anyone inquried to a metal worker yet about making the newer monster tanks in metal at least the inner tank in metal to avoid the problems with the expanding tanK?

ducpainter

Quote from: sbrguy on November 14, 2010, 11:55:09 PM
has anyone inquried to a metal worker yet about making the newer monster tanks in metal at least the inner tank in metal to avoid the problems with the expanding tanK?
What do you mean by inner tank?
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ducatiz

Quote from: ducatiboy on November 14, 2010, 04:57:07 PM
Are you all keeping your expanded tanks?

I

Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on November 14, 2010, 05:05:48 PM
you cant. they get destroyed, part of the deal.

the only exception is if you have some special edition tank or something signed (like the SC bikes that are signed by racers).. you need to call Ducati and ask them to do it.  The dealer will drill a hole in the tank on the bottom to make it useless.  BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK BEFORE YOU GET THE SWAP DONE.
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Quote from: Mother on November 15, 2010, 03:32:09 PM
you can't call a Derby and not cite your source

[roll]
read the damn thread you're in right now mom...

try to stay current will ya? [evil]
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Quote from: humorless dp on November 15, 2010, 03:33:15 PM
read the damn thread you're in right now mom...

try to stay current will ya? [evil]

oh no

that's not how it works

if he wants to Derby me for not running a search the least he can do is run a search to demonstrate his superiority

besides

any thread over 50 pages is exempt from the "staying current clause"

and

If it isnt in the last 10 pages then I say it's exempt from Derbying

ducpainter

Quote from: Mother on November 15, 2010, 03:45:17 PM
oh no

that's not how it works

if he wants to Derby me for not running a search the least he can do is run a search to demonstrate his superiority

besides

any thread over 50 pages is exempt from the "staying current clause"

and

If it isnt in the last 10 pages then I say it's exempt from Derbying

don't make me go all dp on you mom... :-*

it on the previous page. ;D
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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Spidey

Quote from: ducatiz on November 13, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
I am not going to comment on them directly except to say that they are just a law firm that has no interest in Ducati staying around or being solvent or anything.  If you look at the list of their successful lawsuits, they are very good at getting multi-million dollar judgments and settlements (ostensibly from damages).

I want to make this clear:  I am not planning to ask nor demand any damages from Ducati if a suit is filed.  If you sign on as a plaintiff with me, there is no money in it for you, except perhaps cover for simple expense such as showing up in court or a deposition.  All you're going to get out of it is a new, non-defective tank (when ducati makes them), a warranty on it, and the good warm feeling that you participated in getting something good done the right way.

That law firm spends plenty of time looking on forums for people pregnant doging about a manufacturer.  Then, they do a little research to determine if there is a colorable claim, and then they set up an "investigation" --the results of which are just you as a plaintiff suing some company and asking for millions in punitive damages.  

Of course, they don't ask you for any money.  Their lead plaintiffs get paid, sometimes as much as $50 grand, and they get a huge cut of the damages plus their fees paid.

I don't want anyone to impair their legal rights, but I am also trying to approach this with Ducati in a reasonable way.  Ducati has about 1100 employees worldwide, and sells under 40,000 bikes worldwide.  Compare that with their multiple lawsuits against Hyundai, a company with about 200,000 employees worldwide, about 15 different divisions (they make cars, trucks, heavy equipment, machine guns, boats, and so on) and God knows how much revenue.

Ducati make the beast with two backsed up.   They need to make the tanks right.  Do you think you deserve to be paid a few thousand on top of the tank?  More importantly, do you think >I< should be paid 500k - 1million for getting that done for you?   I'll happily take the cash under different circumstances, but Ducati isn't the right defendant for that.  


Ducatizzy, Esq.


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Quote from: humorless dp on November 15, 2010, 03:58:09 PM
don't make me go all dp on you mom... :-*

it on the previous page. ;D

yeah well maybe but still over 50 pages...

Quote from: Spidey on November 15, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
Those guys are SF-based.  PM'd you.

see, now that is a proper Derby

damn kids these days just don't take the time to do things right anymore


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