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Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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DRKWNG

#1650
July 22, 2011, 02:52:25 PM
Quote from: Bishamon on July 22, 2011, 10:25:50 AM
Interestingly enough, the KTM Super Duke is on there.

I know.  My SD's tank has a few extra nipples on it.
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#1651
July 22, 2011, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 21, 2011, 08:25:07 AM
Yes.  A new finger.



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hillbillypolack

#1652
July 23, 2011, 10:34:01 AM
"A class action lawsuit has been filed against Ducati for this issue. The lawsuit covers 50,000 motorcycles sold by Ducati and seeks a replacement tank for each of them."

That's a colossal number of bikes by any measure.  I had no idea it was that many.

(also from the site):

Ducati Monster (years?)
Ducati Hypermotard (years?)
Ducati Streetfighter (years?)
Ducati GT 1000 (all years)
Ducati Paul Smart LE (all years .. 2006)
Ducati Sport 1000 (all years)
Ducati Multistrada (years?)

ducatiz

#1653
July 23, 2011, 11:10:42 AM
Ducatis biggest year was 06 or 07 and that was 42k bikes worldwide.  US and Canada account for about a third of sales.
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ducpainter

#1654
July 23, 2011, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: hillbillypolack on July 23, 2011, 10:34:01 AM
"A class action lawsuit has been filed against Ducati for this issue. The lawsuit covers 50,000 motorcycles sold by Ducati and seeks a replacement tank for each of them."

That's a colossal number of bikes by any measure.  I had no idea it was that many.

(also from the site):

Ducati Monster (years?)
Ducati Hypermotard (years?)
Ducati Streetfighter (years?)
Ducati GT 1000 (all years)
Ducati Paul Smart LE (all years .. 2006)
Ducati Sport 1000 (all years)
Ducati Multistrada (years?)
How does this action benefit owners?

If I was Ducati I'd run right up and settle.

"The lawsuit covers 50,000 motorcycles sold by Ducati and seeks a replacement tank"

It seems the affected owners are better off right now with Ducati replacing tanks indefinitely, and some multiple times, out of good will.

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David Lowenstein

#1655
July 23, 2011, 02:28:06 PM
If this is the same class action suit that I've considered joining, the suit seeks more than just a like replacement.  Specifically:

"Plaintiffs seek equitable relief requiring Ducati to disclose that its plastic fuel tanks are incompatible with the motorcycles' fuel to all existing and prospective customers, and to replace those incompatible fuel tanks with fuel tanks that will not degrade or deform upon contact with fuel."

Dave

Quote from: ducpainter on July 23, 2011, 01:14:48 PM

"The lawsuit covers 50,000 motorcycles sold by Ducati and seeks a replacement tank"

It seems the affected owners are better off right now with Ducati replacing tanks indefinitely, and some multiple times, out of good will.

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Desert Dust

#1656
July 23, 2011, 02:56:05 PM
I would prefer to have one tank that doesn't deform as opposed to numerous replacement tanks.
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rockaduc

#1657
July 23, 2011, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 23, 2011, 02:56:05 PM
I would prefer to have one tank that doesn't deform as opposed to numerous replacement tanks.

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hillbillypolack

#1658
July 23, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 23, 2011, 02:56:05 PM
I would prefer to have one tank that doesn't deform as opposed to numerous replacement tanks.

Yep.

I wonder if there's any ground to claim loss of resale value due to this issue. 

Not counting on it though.

Desert Dust

#1659
July 23, 2011, 06:19:08 PM
Depends- will DNA replace tanks for a new registered owner?
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ducatiz

#1660
July 23, 2011, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Desert Dust on July 23, 2011, 06:19:08 PM
Depends- will DNA replace tanks for a new registered owner?

Of a used bike?  They have been replacing tanks for 2nd and 3rd owners without question.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Desert Dust

#1661
July 23, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on July 23, 2011, 06:54:45 PM
Of a used bike?  They have been replacing tanks for 2nd and 3rd owners without question.
Good will for DNA [thumbsup]
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DucsLikeBread

#1662
July 25, 2011, 10:29:19 AM
Just took a look at that deform tanks website and I don't see any of the ducati super bikes on the list. Are the tanks for these bikes made of another type of plastic? Or is the problem there but just not on that list?

Scissors

#1663
July 26, 2011, 05:03:20 AM
FWIW, the Ducati tech at my shop said that they've seen fully 1 out of every 3 Monsters come back with a deformed fuel tank.

ducatiz

#1664
July 26, 2011, 05:39:24 AM
Quote from: Scissors on July 26, 2011, 05:03:20 AM
FWIW, the Ducati tech at my shop said that they've seen fully 1 out of every 3 Monsters come back with a deformed fuel tank.



Where are you/they located? It might be the gasoline there is worse.

Ethanol content in gasoline can vary -- the label on the pump will always say "contains up to 10% ethanol" but that means it could contain 5% or 1% or even 0%, depending on the supplier. 

the best way to know is to test the gas, kits available online. 
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
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