Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

[thought]

considering the amount of negative responses this will receive... i wonder if this will even come close to passing.

if it does... that'll be pretty messed up.

[mjk778]

I think it's safe to say that all us wanted the settlement to require Ducati to provide customers with expansion issues with new tanks made of a material that will not be subject to future issues,  but they are not. Do I wish Ducati handled the situation differently, yes.  Was I happy that I was strung along by the first dealer I visited regarding the issue, no.  Does the verdict  suck, hell yes but at the end of the day I love my machine and settled for coating the tank and being done with this issue once and for all.  I'm surprised by how many people are still bent about this.  I remember looking at my original tank every time I rode and getting irritated by seeing a flaw in the finish or a wave or dimple.  I got the tank replaced,  had the daler coat it for 2 bills with caswells and never looked back.  done.

[hillbillypolack]

Certainly the Caswell's is an option to avoidn (or at least delay) the expansion. 

But looking at the settlement, seeing how many bikes in Ducati's line were affected. . . would this have a negative impact on their sales in the future.  Time will tell I suppose.

[stopintime]

Certainly the Caswell's is an option to avoidn (or at least delay) the expansion. 

But looking at the settlement, seeing how many bikes in Ducati's line were affected. . . would this have a negative impact on their sales in the future.  Time will tell I suppose.

The saying about Ducati is still, after all these years and all kinds of improvements, that they are unreliable and of sloppy manufacturing. Lots of potential buyers back off because of it.

When the 'melting tanks' issue is added, it will of course hurt Ducati's reputation.

Ducati displays a stupid, childish and shameful attitude now, trying to crawl away from a responsible solution.

Cowards

[Desert Dust]

The saying about Ducati is still, after all these years and all kinds of improvements, that they are unreliable and of sloppy manufacturing. Lots of potential buyers back off because of it.

When the 'melting tanks' issue is added, it will of course hurt Ducati's reputation.

Ducati displays a stupid, childish and shameful attitude now, trying to crawl away from a responsible solution.

Cowards

+1

[muskrat]

well said.

[ducatiz]

The saying about Ducati is still, after all these years and all kinds of improvements, that they are unreliable and of sloppy manufacturing. Lots of potential buyers back off because of it.

When the 'melting tanks' issue is added, it will of course hurt Ducati's reputation.

Ducati displays a stupid, childish and shameful attitude now, trying to crawl away from a responsible solution.

Cowards

Ducati has swapped out how many tanks on bikes that were A) out of warranty and B) for a second or third owner?

I think there is a lot to admire about their reaction.  They haven't come thru with a better tank, but for a LOT of owners who have 4-5 year old bike and are the 2nd or 3rd owner, they swapped a tank, no questions asked.

I'd prefer that they figure out a permanent fix rather than effing with the bike parts to move things around to fit a swelling tank.  What happens when the tank shrinks back?

But as far as cowards?  No, sorry.  I don't think there has been a single auto manufacturer EVER who has gotten a claim from a buyer of a USED bike/car and done a free part/labor swap.

[Desert Dust]

Potentially dangerous situations? It's called a recall- something that Ducati should have done without even challenging the the issue in court.

Auto makers have done it many times.

[ducatiz]

Potentially dangerous situations? It's called a recall- something that Ducati should have done without even challenging the the issue in court.

Auto makers have done it many times.

If it was clearly a dangerous defect, there wouldn't be a settlement and it would have gone to a jury and the payout would have been far larger.  You and I might be convinced, but NHTSA looked into it and decided it wasn't dangerous, so at least from a purely legal perspective, it wasn't dangerous.

[Howie]

Potentially dangerous situations? It's called a recall- something that Ducati should have done without even challenging the the issue in court.

Auto makers have done it many times.

Recalls come from NHTSA, not the manufacturers.  Occasionally a manufacturer will initiate the recall, but that is rare.  Usually manufacturers do the opposite.   

[hunduc]

What happens when the tank shrinks back?

can that happen? if you manage to use pure gas for a while after using ethanol, does the tank shrink back?

[ducatiz]

can that happen? if you manage to use pure gas for a while after using ethanol, does the tank shrink back?

It can and DOES.  All of the tanks shrink back when dried.  Drain the tank, let it sit in a humidity-free environment and it will shrink back after 1-2 months.

Alternatively, put a gallon of hot water in it and it will balloon overnight.

[thought]

It can and DOES.  All of the tanks shrink back when dried.  Drain the tank, let it sit in a humidity-free environment and it will shrink back after 1-2 months.

Alternatively, put a gallon of hot water in it and it will balloon overnight.

but what happens when you put some mentos and coke inside it...

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.  haha

[stopintime]

Stupid, because it hits them where it hurts the most - reputation

Childish, because once confronted legally they wiggle and try to get off the easiest way

Shameful, because their behaviour is not in any way going to make them proud


"Ducati builds emotions" - their own words and very true.
How smart is it to disappoint up to 40,000 customers with a practical, economical and emotional issue?

[ducatiz]

but what happens when you put some mentos and coke inside it...

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW.  haha

you look like a make the beast with two backsing idiot. 

Stupid, because it hits them where it hurts the most - reputation

Childish, because once confronted legally they wiggle and try to get off the easiest way

Shameful, because their behaviour is not in any way going to make them proud


"Ducati builds emotions" - their own words and very true.
How smart is it to disappoint up to 40,000 customers with a practical, economical and emotional issue?

put that into a legal argument and we can go somewhere.


i was reading the other day a thread a guy posted complaining the flat-earth theory doesn't get much attention.  anyone and their pet guinea can post on the web....