DIY Painting Tips

Started by ducpainter, January 27, 2008, 08:36:03 AM

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stopintime

I'm redoing my painted beer tray.

It has adhesive spray, red spray, vinyl stripes and the clear coates.
There are some scratches from bag straps - down to bare plastic.

Must it all come off to start over or can I do individual spots?
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ducpainter

Quote from: stopintime on August 19, 2010, 02:33:56 AM
I'm redoing my painted beer tray.

It has adhesive spray, red spray, vinyl stripes and the clear coates.
There are some scratches from bag straps - down to bare plastic.

Must it all come off to start over or can I do individual spots?
There are a couple of things to consider.

Over all film thickness is the major factor along with what your next scheme will be.

Do you have any idea the film thickness of what is already there, and what do you want to 'see' when it's re-done?
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stopintime

Oh... there's a lot of rattle can paint on there now.
My first thought was that the adhesive coat, which has to go on the bare plastic in some small parts, would conflict with the paint which is already there.

I want to start with adhesive and I might as well strip it all down - then I'll have a layer of white, because the red was hard to get right on top of black plastic. Red doesn't cover well I guess.

Good thing about the white is that then I'll be able to have painted white stripes instead of the vinyl.

Ok with you DP?
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ducpainter

Quote from: stopintime on August 20, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Oh... there's a lot of rattle can paint on there now.
My first thought was that the adhesive coat, which has to go on the bare plastic in some small parts, would conflict with the paint which is already there.

I want to start with adhesive and I might as well strip it all down - then I'll have a layer of white, because the red was hard to get right on top of black plastic. Red doesn't cover well I guess.

Good thing about the white is that then I'll be able to have painted white stripes instead of the vinyl.

Ok with you DP?
Th adhesion promoter shouldn't bother the color that's there.

How are you planning on stripping it?

Plastics don't like stripper.

...and yes a coat of white will make the job go much faster as you don't need as much red to cover...it will probably look like a different color. ;)
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 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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stopintime

I like strippers  ??? But I won't pay them to strip my plastic.

My plan is to sand it down by hand. I think I'll do the whole tray - it'll give me a better end result.
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ducpainter

Quote from: stopintime on August 20, 2010, 10:51:37 AM
I like strippers  ??? But I won't pay them to strip my plastic.

My plan is to sand it down by hand. I think I'll do the whole tray - it'll give me a better end result.
It will indeed.

Good luck with it.
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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scott_araujo

Stopintime, do you just want to start with a fresh one?  I think I've got one and my Ducati is gone.  You're welcome to it.  It's off an '03 800 Dark.

Scott

stopintime

Quote from: scott_araujo on August 20, 2010, 10:26:27 PM
Stopintime, do you just want to start with a fresh one?  I think I've got one and my Ducati is gone.  You're welcome to it.  It's off an '03 800 Dark.

Scott

Thank you Scott [thumbsup]

As I remember, cutting, grinding and sanding was the worst part of this job. That's why I'm thinking about redoing, but....
I snapped one of the four bolts, so it would be nice to get another though.

Maybe I'll get back to you.

BTW: your bike is gone....... was this approved by us?
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bunnyman

Was in Autozone on Friday, and I found a Rustoleum metallic textured paint that looks like a dead-ringer for Dark; just add matte clear.
Dammit!!! I still smell like Cotton Candy!!!

scott_araujo

Quote from: stopintime on August 20, 2010, 10:38:36 PM
BTW: your bike is gone....... was this approved by us?

Forcibly taken by an old lady with a BMW :(

stopintime

Quote from: scott_araujo on August 22, 2010, 12:21:46 PM
Forcibly taken by an old lady with a BMW :(

Sorry I asked - I had already heard, but didn't connect. Still too bad. :'(
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killerpenguin

i have a question. how hard is it to paint a monster frame? I'm talking about like taking a fully assembled bike a 2000 m750 taking it apart and painting the frame or any easier method. thanks a lot  ;D
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mojo

Painting the frame won't be hard, it's just the disassembly that will take all the time.
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ducpainter

Quote from: mojo on August 28, 2010, 02:09:36 AM
Painting the frame won't be hard, it's just the disassembly that will take all the time.
Actually a frame is a fairly difficult shoot.

A piece of tubing requires at least 4 passes, if not more, for good coverage/smooth appearance. Try getting the correct angle inside a trellis frame.

Most people choose powder for frames.
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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Raux

I had mine painted not PC'd. They said something like 50% of the paint was wasted. which sucked as it was a custom mix to match the PPG Ducati color.