GUN STUFF

[ducatiz]

Not sure about your comments regarding the low power of the 45 LC. Based on what I've read, the LC is a great round for all-around use.

And I don't what country you're in comrade, but here in the U.S., we're all cowboys.

45 LC is a low power round compared to other 44-45 class rounds.  It was originally a black powder cartridge developed in the 1870s for pistols. 

I don't have any problem with it, I think I mentioned I have a levergun chambered in 45LC.  It's fun to shoot, it has barely any recoil.

"All around use?"  I can see that, but it's just not going to have the power advantage of a modern 45-class round, or even a 9mm. 

I see the round most used in Cowboy Action Shooting competition.  (it's a "Cowboy round")   I rarely see it at the range.  The cheapest price I found for it on the web is 52c per round whereas for 44magnum I found 45c per round., and 44mag is infinitely superior and you can use 44spec in the same gun.

Most of the lever guns I see nowadays are either 357 or 44magnum and occasionally 30-30.

He doesnt like the .17hmr, its too nerdy.  He doesnt like the .45 LC, its to Cowboy-ey. 


What are you desert Island rounds Tizzy?  You know who youre starting to sound like......

45GAP, 41A&E, 32NAA, 45 Win Mag, 10mm... all good rounds more or less, and they all failed in the marketplace because they simply were either a solution in search of a problem or they offered something but due to other factors, failed (like 10mm failed due to the cartridge size requiring larger frames.. it was easier to make 40 and use 9mm frames)

I like anything that shoots and that I can scrounge when SHTF

Years ago, I was packing to go to the range and realized I had 10 rifles and about 200 lbs of ammo.  It was simply because I had 7 or 8 different calibers.  I made the decision then to consolidate to common calibers, or at least rounds that I could get easily and cheaply and to hone my skill to them rather than trying to find a "holy grail" round.

Put it another way... there has been a lot of debate over 9mm vs 40 vs 45 and so on.  At the end of the day, if you practice for headshots and followup, you can be shooting with a 22.  There is no magical pistol round -- learn to shoot for your equipment.

Likewise, have good equipment.  If you spend 2 grand on a rifle, but $200 for the glass, and then you don't even sight that in correctly, and then you use milsurp rounds that are for a machine gun, it's not going to shoot right.  Build the equipment correctly, calibrate it for a high quality ammo choice and keep everything consistent and practice with that. 

If you put me on a desert island?  I want the most ammo possible in the most accurate equipment.  Probably a bolt action 22LR or 223 rifle.  Assuming a crate washes up and it's filled with rounds, there are going to be far more 22LR than any other round, but 223 would be far more useful in taking game.

NOT on a desert island, I want the most available rounds.  Your 10mm pistol isn't going to be much good during the zombie apocalypse.  When you find that police cruiser or that army truck, they will have 7.62, 5.56 and 9mm or 40, and that's it.  They won't have 7.62x39 either, but since that ammo used to be so cheap, I bought a shit-ton of it and am still milking it -- I've never even bought any of the Wolf polymer coated rounds because I still have so much of the old lacquer coated stuff.  Likewise the 8mm and 7.62x54 -- when the Turk 8mm came around in early 1998, I bought a lot of it.  I have half a dozen spam cans of Albanian and Romanian Mosin ammo.  It will never go bad and those mosin rifles are cheap.  If there is ever another "Katrina" disaster around me, it will be easy to hand out Mosin and SKS rifles to my neighbors...

I also have caches of 7.5 Swiss, 7.5 French, 6.5 Arisaka, 7.65, and others. I don't know what I'll do with the rifles when I run out of ammo, but I don't shoot those rifles much.  Some can probably be converted to .308 (7.5 swiss is very close in size and power).. others will just become relics.

[cokey]

SHTF.  Have a ton of something small so you can bug out and a ton of something big invade you need it (big game, vehicles, armor or huge mutated zombies )

[cokey]

I want one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIhjoQVbiRs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Monsterlover]

I like the sights on that.

I'm also more than a little jealous of that range he's got there.

[cokey]

He has two..  ones the rifle range.. 

[Monsterlover]

?

I've watched a shit load of his vids and I've only ever seen that same range.

[cokey]

He has about 40 acres..  more of his rifle range but doesn't use it often..

Browning 1886

[Kopfjager]

My boy got a write up in this months Special Weapons mag. 

[cokey]

Nice... I subed to his channel

[BerettaMato]

I have a AR-15 Bushmaster varminter 24" fluted heavy barrel with J&R two stage trigger, Nikon 8-20x50 illuminated Mil-Dot with Harris bypod for sale. Very very accurate .28 five shot group at 100yards. $1250 free shipping to your FFL. I will also donate 1% to the forum if sold here. Just PM me.

[ducpainter]

<snip>

Post your for sale here...


http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?board=13.0

[BerettaMato]

Done. Sorry my bad just figured gun stuff. 

[Mother]

Thanks for the feedbacks.  There is definitely no argument against the good 'ol 22lr - its cheap and for <100 yrds, it's more than adequate.  I am looking for something different than what I already have, that's why I am considering a rifle in a .17 HMR. 

But from what I've gathered so far, .17 isn't as popular as I thought it'd be.  Is it too small?  ineffective?  gimmicky?  redudent?

To describe the .17hmr

It looks cool

It is the equivalent of someone saying

"hey, let's put a powder charge behind a pellet"

It shoots like a laser as long as there is no wind

And

It'll flip anything up to a yote for $0.22

[Goat_Herder]

After talking to a few guys at the local shops about .17HMR and CZ rifles in particular, I think I am pretty much sold.  it will likely be my next purchase somewhere down the line, that is, if the Wife approves. 

CZ455 American or Varmint is peaking my interest right now.

[ducpainter]

After talking to a few guys at the local shops about .17HMR and CZ rifles in particular, I think I am pretty much sold.  it will likely be my next purchase somewhere down the line, that is, if the Wife approves. 

CZ455 American or Varmint is peaking my interest right now.

The 452's have less plastic...

if you can find one.