GUN STUFF

[Monsterlover]

It should balance out nicely with a full mag

[fastwin]

You'll like it. Give us an after action report when you get back from the range.

[DesmoLu]

i would say the biggest factor is how are you going to conceal it? 

It will stay in the riding jacket at all times (or truck consul if in truck).

As a disclaimer, I *do* know how to shoot - I've shot a lot of target, a deer, bunnies, even a tasty cow (mmm, beef)... not a whole lot else to do growing up in rural New Mexico. I've just only interacted with large guns, mainly hunting rifles. As for the note above, not too familiar with something that will sit nicely in the leathers. However, I do plan to spend plenty of time at the range to get well acquainted with the new friend even after taking the concealed carry class (involves a few hours shooting, at least locally).

[ducatiz]

As a disclaimer, I *do* know how to shoot - I've shot a lot of target, a deer, bunnies, even a tasty cow (mmm, beef)... not a whole lot else to do growing up in rural New Mexico. I've just only interacted with large guns, mainly hunting rifles. As for the note above, not too familiar with something that will sit nicely in the leathers. However, I do plan to spend plenty of time at the range to get well acquainted with the new friend even after taking the concealed carry class (involves a few hours shooting, at least locally).

longarm shooting and pistol shooting (under pressure) are really very different. 

the best way to learn to shoot defensive pistol is to drink a shitload of espresso -- enough that you're shaking -- and then try.  its not a perfect analogy for being hopped up on adrenalin but its close enough.

[caperix]

I may be being over cautious but carrying on the bike makes me more selective on the gun.  Personaly I do not trust the glock style saftey system for riding.  I like a da/sa with a decocking lever or a dao trigger system for the peace of mind that if I do happen to go down the chances of a discharge when that happens are almost imposible.

[dgm]

You'll like it. Give us an after action report when you get back from the range.

Will do!  If the weather is nice enough (outdoor range) I plan to go shoot it a bit on Monday. 

[DesmoLu]

the best way to learn to shoot defensive pistol is to drink a shitload of espresso -- enough that you're shaking -- and then try.  its not a perfect analogy for being hopped up on adrenalin but its close enough.

if only caffeine effected me in the slightest... but that's a good suggestion!

[ducatiz]

if only caffeine effected me in the slightest... but that's a good suggestion!

any stimulant can do the trick, just most people are more comfortable with caffeine.  not enough to impair you, just enough to give you a shake.  it's pretty amazing how different one's performance is, even for very experienced shooters.  most people have done their training in comfortable circumstances, or just off a bench. 

stress shooting is a whole different animal.

[fastwin]

Taking a good self defense style course is always a good idea. It may not be "competition" but shooting solo drills in front of the rest of the class and the instructor standing behind you with a PACT timer is nice and stressful. I've had many students perform well in the class only to have the wheels come off when shooting a solo drill when I hit the start buzzer on the PACT. Something about having all those eyes on you and the thought that your run is going to be timed and compared to the rest of the class. And of course I did kind of go out of the way to continuely talk about how nerve raking it is. Wasn't being a jerk, just trying to add a little extra pressure. Like doing a "Rossi" and try to get in their heads and mess with them. Still, that's only a tiny percent of the real pressure you would experience in a real life, armed confrontation. It's good practice to go through that pressure and perform well. IPSC or IDPA shoots are good for "pressure practice" too.

[the_Journeyman]

Went shooting today:

My best - 2nd time shooting this particular gun:


Wife's - New shooter only 2nd time shooting at all, same gun I was using:


JM

[the_Journeyman]

Picked this up today to certify with:



Check out the wadcutters & rat shot in the corner of the box:


Detail of grip:


Closer shot of the rat shot (left) & wadcuters (right) that have been in the box for who knows how long:


Label:


JM

[BoDiddley]

Taking a good self defense style course is always a good idea. It may not be "competition" but shooting solo drills in front of the rest of the class and the instructor standing behind you with a PACT timer is nice and stressful. I've had many students perform well in the class only to have the wheels come off when shooting a solo drill when I hit the start buzzer on the PACT. Something about having all those eyes on you and the thought that your run is going to be timed and compared to the rest of the class. And of course I did kind of go out of the way to continuely talk about how nerve raking it is.  

Massad Ayoob

If he  does a course in your area it is the ultimate,  even if you have to drive for hours to get to it.  I have taken all of his courses 1 11 and 111 and have shot with him in competition, massad is the man.  He as they say writes the book.  He will teach you things that you cannot comprehend and that is the best way to learn as you cannot actually comprehend the worst.

http://massadayoobgroup.com/

[fastwin]

Is that what you and the wife shot the targets with? Sweet old Security Six. It's been around for a while! Everyone gets all wrapped up around the axle with all the new cool autos and good old wheelguns get forgotten and collect dust in the back of gun safes. Sad.

Taking the family to my farm for a few days since it's Spring Break and junior is all excited about the guns were going to shoot. Funny, he seems most amped up about my S&W model 65 revolver I posted about earlier. Writing those posts made me want to shoot it again! I'll let him get a little wheelgun time on it. He wants to shoot a 1911 real bad so I'm taking a Springfield with a Wilson .22 top end so he can learn the gun. And I'm bringing a 5" Les Baer if he passes the .22 1911 test. No PACT timers on him... he doesn't need that stress right now.

Nice score on the Ruger!!

[fastwin]

Massad Ayoob

If he  does a course in your area it is the ultimate,  even if you have to drive for hours to get to it.  I have taken all of his courses 1 11 and 111 and have shot with him in competition, massad is the man.  He as they say writes the book.  He will teach you things that you cannot comprehend and that is the best way to learn as you cannot actually comprehend the worst.

http://www.ayoob.com/http://massadayoobgroup.com/

I have never taken a course from him but you are right... he is the MAN!! I know friends that have taken his courses and they raved. It's my understanding that if you have been a student of his and you get into a self defense shooting scenario and some how get criminally charged or sued in a civil court he will (at no charge) testify on your behalf as an expert witness. Is that right?

My personal version of him is Louis Awerbuck. He too is awesome!!

http://www.yfainc.com/

[WarrenJ]

If you are an LFI grad, Mas will represent you as an expert witness.  Part of the course sets up the groundwork for an affirmative defense using what was taught, etc.  Absolutely well worth the time and money to take his courses.  My wife and I shot with Mas and his daughter at 2nd Chance, we both went through LFI-1 with him and were guest instructors at a class he held in our area a few years ago.  His classes start off where his books end.  I figured I would just sort of snooze through the lectures - I was completely stunned at all the critical things I either didn't know or had an incorrect understanding of.  If you are thinking about taking more personal responsibility for your self defense, taking LFI or a similar course, such as Thunder Ranch or Gunsite is incredibly important.