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the_Journeyman

#2145
October 31, 2011, 02:05:48 PM
I stopped in at the local "good" gun shop in town.  I wrapped my hands around a Ruger 9mm.  Thoughts? 

Going back Wednesday to get rid of my Jennings Jams-a-Lot as a trade in.  When I go back are some other similar 9mm to check out?  I'm pretty happy with 9mm from a cost stand point.

JM
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fastwin

#2146
October 31, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: sqweak on October 31, 2011, 02:00:09 PM
I'm thinking of picking up a Kimber Custom II + .22LR conversion kit for myself for a first pistol. Primarily for target range & home defense.

Seems the lower end Kimber at ~ 650-700 isn't all that more than a plastic glock/hk/etc for a better spec/reputation/etc. Picking up the conversion so I can get used to handling it and shooting cheaply before "upgrading" it back to original .45.

Thoughts?

Do it!! Kimbers are very nice. I have a load of 1911s and several are Kimbers. Never a problem. Ever. I have a "massaged" Springfield Armory .45acp 1911 that I put a Wilson Combat .22lr conversion on. I love it! My 14 year old son loves it! It's been on the pistol for years. I don't even know where the .45 slide/barrel is! What does that tell you? Never a problem with it either. Cheap fun 1911 practice. All good. [thumbsup]
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

ducatiz

#2147
October 31, 2011, 03:40:28 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 31, 2011, 02:05:48 PM
I stopped in at the local "good" gun shop in town.  I wrapped my hands around a Ruger 9mm.  Thoughts? 

Going back Wednesday to get rid of my Jennings Jams-a-Lot as a trade in.  When I go back are some other similar 9mm to check out?  I'm pretty happy with 9mm from a cost stand point.

JM

What model?
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DRKWNG

#2148
October 31, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
Quote from: sqweak on October 31, 2011, 02:00:09 PM
I'm thinking of picking up a Kimber Custom II + .22LR conversion kit for myself for a first pistol. Primarily for target range & home defense.

Seems the lower end Kimber at ~ 650-700 isn't all that more than a plastic glock/hk/etc for a better spec/reputation/etc. Picking up the conversion so I can get used to handling it and shooting cheaply before "upgrading" it back to original .45.

Thoughts?

Quote from: fastwin on October 31, 2011, 03:32:27 PM
Do it!!

And, you'll quickly find out that a $700 Kimber is a couple hundred less than an HK.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

sqweak

#2149
October 31, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
Thanks Fastwin & Drkwng!

I've mostly shot HK USP, but last winter I shot my brother-in-law's Kimber and liked it quite a bit. He's got one of the fancy custom shop Grand Raptor IIs. Aesthetically, I dig the Eclipse series but it feels like the responsible decision would be to get the most entry level one and spend some time putting some .22 and .45 through before splurging for $1k+ gun that is mostly aesthetic bling additions.

Is it worth springing for the "Target" variant to get the adjustable sights? or if sticking with fixed, for the TLE to get night sights?
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Monsterlover

#2150
October 31, 2011, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 31, 2011, 02:05:48 PM
I stopped in at the local "good" gun shop in town.  I wrapped my hands around a Ruger 9mm.  Thoughts? 

Going back Wednesday to get rid of my Jennings Jams-a-Lot as a trade in.  When I go back are some other similar 9mm to check out?  I'm pretty happy with 9mm from a cost stand point.

JM

I own a Ruger SR9c, what do you want to know?
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ducpainter

#2151
October 31, 2011, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 31, 2011, 04:12:18 PM
I own a Ruger SR9c, what do you want to know?
Maybe he's talking LC-9
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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the_Journeyman

#2152
October 31, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
It's the P-series 9mm.  I'm looking for a nice, not too expensive 9mm that is reliable.  Is it reliable?

1.  9mm is cheap to shoot and most likely has plenty of self defense power.  If I am wrong, point toward a more appropriate caliber, but give reasons.

2.  I have a top budget of about $500.  Feel free to recommend others in that price range.  As much as I would like a Sig or H&K, they're out of range for my budget.

I like the feel of the P-Series 9mm.  I can't remember the exact model number.  I'm open to other brands too.

JM
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Quote from: r_ciao on January 28, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
ADULT TRUTHS

10. Bad decisions make good stories.

ducpainter

#2153
October 31, 2011, 04:43:11 PM
Are you stuck on alloy/composite frame?

Is the price for a new pistol?
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


fastwin

#2154
October 31, 2011, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: sqweak on October 31, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
Thanks Fastwin & Drkwng!

I've mostly shot HK USP, but last winter I shot my brother-in-law's Kimber and liked it quite a bit. He's got one of the fancy custom shop Grand Raptor IIs. Aesthetically, I dig the Eclipse series but it feels like the responsible decision would be to get the most entry level one and spend some time putting some .22 and .45 through before splurging for $1k+ gun that is mostly aesthetic bling additions.

Is it worth springing for the "Target" variant to get the adjustable sights? or if sticking with fixed, for the TLE to get night sights?

I'd lean toward fixed night sights. I have adjustable sights (old series 70 Colt Gold Cups) on very few of my 1911s. The gunsmith customs have Novaks, Meprolight or Trijicon night sights. As well as more modern off the shelf Kimbers, etc. My 2 cents. ;)
I plan to list the Federal Gov't. as a dependent on my next 1040 tax filing!

I have flying honey badgers and I'm not afraid to use them!

The fact that flame throwers exist is proof that someone somewhere said "I'd sure like to set those people over there on fire but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."

CONFIDENCE: the feeling you have right before you understand the situation.

DRKWNG

#2155
October 31, 2011, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 31, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
It's the P-series 9mm.  I'm looking for a nice, not too expensive 9mm that is reliable.  Is it reliable?

1.  9mm is cheap to shoot and most likely has plenty of self defense power.  If I am wrong, point toward a more appropriate caliber, but give reasons.

2.  I have a top budget of about $500.  Feel free to recommend others in that price range.  As much as I would like a Sig or H&K, they're out of range for my budget.

I like the feel of the P-Series 9mm.  I can't remember the exact model number.  I'm open to other brands too.

JM

I'd also take a look at the S&W M&P series.  They've got really nice ergos (for me anyhow), are rugged and if you look around hard/long enough, you can find them new for right about $400.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

Monsterlover

#2156
October 31, 2011, 06:19:36 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 31, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
It's the P-series 9mm.  I'm looking for a nice, not too expensive 9mm that is reliable.  Is it reliable?

1.  9mm is cheap to shoot and most likely has plenty of self defense power.  If I am wrong, point toward a more appropriate caliber, but give reasons.

2.  I have a top budget of about $500.  Feel free to recommend others in that price range.  As much as I would like a Sig or H&K, they're out of range for my budget.

I like the feel of the P-Series 9mm.  I can't remember the exact model number.  I'm open to other brands too.

JM

Its reliable.  Never had it malfunction in probably 1000 rounds. The SR9c is cool because its a compact but can have a full sized grip if you run the big mag (takes the same mags as the SR9.)

Best thing to do is handle a few guns and see which feels best.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#2157
October 31, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: the_Journeyman on October 31, 2011, 04:21:41 PM
It's the P-series 9mm.  I'm looking for a nice, not too expensive 9mm that is reliable.  Is it reliable?

1.  9mm is cheap to shoot and most likely has plenty of self defense power.  If I am wrong, point toward a more appropriate caliber, but give reasons.

2.  I have a top budget of about $500.  Feel free to recommend others in that price range.  As much as I would like a Sig or H&K, they're out of range for my budget.

I like the feel of the P-Series 9mm.  I can't remember the exact model number.  I'm open to other brands too.

JM

Most of the P series is fairly similar.  They are rock solid guns.  None of them will win beauty contests, but they perform excellently.  Massad Ayoob raved about them when they came out, he called them "the Brick"..

I have a P94 in 9mm I'm selling if you're interested.  I have like 6 mags with it too.  I make you a deal.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

DRKWNG

#2158
October 31, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on October 31, 2011, 06:23:17 PM
I make you a deal.

He'll also love you long time.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

the_Journeyman

#2159
October 31, 2011, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 31, 2011, 04:43:11 PM
Are you stuck on alloy/composite frame?

Is the price for a new pistol?

New or good condition used is ok.  If it's been properly taken care of.

Not stuck on anything particular honestly.  I don't want *too* small though.  I handled a Taurus that was really thin, but I didn't like it.  I've had my hands on several.  I like how Sig feels, the Ruger feels good too.  I didn't like Glock as much in my hand.  Haven't had my hands on a Beretta or Springfield yet.

Ducatiz - Drop me a PM when you get time with what you're talking about.

Quote from: DRKWNG on October 31, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
He'll also love you long time.

:D


JM
Got Torque?
Quote from: r_ciao on January 28, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
ADULT TRUTHS

10. Bad decisions make good stories.
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