Why ducati dropped the 750cc ?

Started by H-2 CHARLIE, August 24, 2011, 11:41:48 AM

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H-2 CHARLIE

 It seems the other  motors - 620 / 796/800 900 and on  , but why drop the 750cc motor ?  Maybe they updated the motor and just changed the cc  ?  The 750cc has ben around fo 50 years .

JEFF_H

new motors always bump to a higher displacement (probably for marketing reasons)
example-
600->620->695->696

Slide Panda

Math

600 became the 620
750 became the 800 (almost twice the bump from 600 to 620)
900 became the 1000 (twice the bump from 750 to 800)

Gotta heed the math.

Really I have no clue... but the theory amused me.
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Rameses

Quote from: Sad Panda on August 24, 2011, 12:08:07 PM
Math

600 became the 620
750 became the 800 (almost more than twice the bump from 600 to 620)
900 became the 1000 (twice the bump from 750 to 800)

Gotta heed work on the math.

Really I have no clue... but the theory amused me.




:P




Slide Panda

Obviously the 'Really have no clue' part is it most important part of my statement...
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Rameses

Quote from: Sad Panda on August 24, 2011, 12:41:14 PM
Obviously the 'Really have no clue' part is it most important part of my statement...


[laugh]

Well played sir.


the_Journeyman

I really like my carbed 750, it has a very nice, broad power curve.  It is down on top end power, even to SV650s.  I've seen top-gear on the throttle stops trying to keep up with other bikes in the sweepers, but I usually hang right with them in the tight stuff. 

JM
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Quote from: JEFF_H on August 24, 2011, 12:04:06 PM
new motors always bump to a higher displacement (probably for marketing reasons)
example-
600->620->695->696

So give it a few more iterations and the 750 will be back.  [laugh]
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ducatiz

I never thought I would see someone wax poetic about the M750 engine.

On the Paso, it was just enough.  Upgrade your 600 and you feel like you've been gifted an extra inch. 

But the M750 is a bit mild.  Maybe you can up the valves and cams and get more, but..

???
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Raux

796 is the new 750

i do wonder if the motors will eventually go to a
600 750 900 1200

ducatiz

Quote from: Raux on August 26, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
796 is the new 750

i do wonder if the motors will eventually go to a
600 750 900 1200


I'd like to see a 600+ 4v engine.  just for kicks.. but truly, they'd need to come up with a smaller crankcase for it.  and i don't know how that can be done using the 90 deg L layout..
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Raux

Quote from: ducatiz on August 26, 2011, 12:05:37 PM
I'd like to see a 600+ 4v engine.  just for kicks.. but truly, they'd need to come up with a smaller crankcase for it.  and i don't know how that can be done using the 90 deg L layout..

wonder what configurations the new motor can do ?

or better yet, the 800cc V4 turned into a true 600cc for supersport.


Duck-Stew

Quote from: ducatiz on August 25, 2011, 05:42:07 PM
I never thought I would see someone wax poetic about the M750 engine.

On the Paso, it was just enough.  Upgrade your 600 and you feel like you've been gifted an extra inch. 

But the M750 is a bit mild.  Maybe you can up the valves and cams and get more, but..

???

I've got the pieces/parts to put together probably one of the best 750 motors ever and it's going to be mild by comparison to a DS1000...  Despite having 2-3x the $ into it that could be used to buy a DS1000...

799 hi-comp kit
900 diameter valves
900i.e. Cams
Dry-clutch
695 6-speed trans
749 charging system...
& 40mm flat-slides

Still going to be slow...  :-/

(BTW, a BIG +1 to the above quote...)
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thought

Quote from: Raux on August 26, 2011, 12:50:33 PM
wonder what configurations the new motor can do ?

or better yet, the 800cc V4 turned into a true 600cc for supersport.



i've always wondered why there isnt a 600cc v4.  are there tech reasons behind it or is it just because there just isnt too much benefit in the v4 config for smaller engines to justify the extra work in making one?
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H-2 CHARLIE

 2012 honda 600cc  should be a v-4 motor and a new RC-51  style race bike might show up .